falkirkNS 6,298 Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 Only took me 5 days to catch up with this thread, i need to give goldson more abuse, give me a chance fs Essandoh and graeme_4 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
16BlueSherbert90 19,253 Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 Really hope it isn't McInnes. That would be dreadful:( Don54 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitre_mouldmaster 21,509 Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 Just now, Don54 said: GVB seems to be bookies fav Bookies know fuck all, the fans want GVB, so are all lumping on him, which makes the odds fall. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 43,270 Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, 16BlueSherbert90 said: Okay, just checking👍🏻 Doing a Brendan then. Quite poor given his speech about concentrating on this season etc. Probably going to affect the players further 😒 Aston Villa of all clubs...I get that he would want to be in the EPL, but I would have hoped he would at least see the season through. Me and my optimism 😬 Pretty much as close as you'll get to the clubs presser saying it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitre_mouldmaster 21,509 Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 Just now, 16BlueSherbert90 said: Really hope it isn't McInnes. That would be dreadful:( I actually think he is a very low risk appointment. It would be an absolute fucking riddy though getting the sacked Aberdeen manager who knocked us back before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
superallysbears 7,770 Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 Fucking John Terry on the list 🤦 you better lock up your wives 😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
16BlueSherbert90 19,253 Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 1 minute ago, esquire8 said: Pretty much as close as you'll get to the clubs presser saying it. I still want him to be wrong 🙈 But yeah:( Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virtuoso 27,180 Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 Could we see the return of Advocaat 🤔 chrism_scotland 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 43,270 Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 5 minutes ago, mitre_mouldmaster said: To be honest, im probably the only one with doubts about GVB, and I have literally no idea why! He plays a 4-3-3, perfect for our current crop of players, has the background to rival Gerrard in terms of experience for the players, has actually won more in a more competitive league than Gerrard. I think the only thing I can say is that after initial success, he has kinda went backwards. Done amazing in Holland, then his team fell back to the kinda standard they were at before he joined. Then he went to the footballing backwater that is China, obviously for the money, but makes me slightly doubt his drive. With Gerrard, you had a guy absolutely determined to reach his goal of managing his boyhood club and make it to the very top of the game. with GVB, im unconvinced that drive is there for him to fuck off to China. I also really have my doubts that we would be able to agree terms with him, not on salary, but on what he would want in terms of players. If he was to accept a tiny budget, then it makes me question his ambition. If he doesnt, I dont see us getting him. A left field up an coming manager from a smaller club, with less profile as a player could however have that ambition to get to the very top and could see the challenge with us as being a massive way to prove his credentials, even without a big budget. Probably an absolute pile of shite, and since i had massive doubts about Gerrard at the time, my judgement is questionable! Between Feyenoord and China he was offered a huge job with the City group. He admits he made a mistake with China. Teams like Feyenoord don't stay successful from lengthy periods of time. I think he would get the most out the players we already have, give us the biggest chance of winning the league, then go on to spend on players he likes and build a proper dynasty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virtuoso 27,180 Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 8 minutes ago, mitre_mouldmaster said: To be honest, im probably the only one with doubts about GVB Nope. mitre_mouldmaster 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 72,446 Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 Every manager we could potentially get will have doubt over them. Gerrard had massive ones, more than most. graeme_4 and mitre_mouldmaster 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitre_mouldmaster 21,509 Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, esquire8 said: Between Feyenoord and China he was offered a huge job with the City group. He admits he made a mistake with China. Teams like Feyenoord don't stay successful from lengthy periods of time. I think he would get the most out the players we already have, give us the biggest chance of winning the league, then go on to spend on players he likes and build a proper dynasty. You are probably right, just got a wee alarm at the back of my head saying he isnt the right one. But he fits almost every single criteria that we should be looking for. Just buyers doubt I think if im honest! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
16BlueSherbert90 19,253 Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, mitre_mouldmaster said: I actually think he is a very low risk appointment. It would be an absolute fucking riddy though getting the sacked Aberdeen manager who knocked us back before. Wanker of a man whilst with Aberdeen. I would have serious difficulty seeing him as our Manager, but knowing the way this board can be 😬 1 minute ago, The Godfather said: Every manager we could potentially get will have doubt over them. Gerrard had massive ones, more than most. True Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladytonbear 375 Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 13 minutes ago, mitre_mouldmaster said: I also really have my doubts that we would be able to agree terms with him, not on salary, but on what he would want in terms of players. If he was to accept a tiny budget, then it makes me question his ambition. If he doesnt, I dont see us getting him. Don’t disagree with most of what you say, but surely this criteria must be applied to any manager we appoint? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ibrox Derry 8,980 Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 Is John Terry a coach at Villa? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrism_scotland 165 Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 Just now, The Ibrox Derry said: Is John Terry a coach at Villa? He was the assistant to Smith; left at the start of the year Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essandoh 21,286 Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 I don’t think anyone should be judging GVB on his time in China/choice to go there. A shithole football environment yes but eye watering money for the sake of a relatively short time there. I don’t hold that against anyone (within reason) if it’s a temporary thing. (Fuck the CCP by the way) Willis, Helicopter Sundae, 16BlueSherbert90 and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangersross 6,542 Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 1 minute ago, The Ibrox Derry said: Is John Terry a coach at Villa? Nah, he left in the summer. Think it’s because he wanted to manage his own team. The Ibrox Derry 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ibrox Derry 8,980 Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 Michel Preud Homme BlueThunder 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitre_mouldmaster 21,509 Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 1 minute ago, 16BlueSherbert90 said: Wanker of a man whilst with Aberdeen. I would have serious difficulty seeing him as our Manager, but knowing the way this board can be 😬 True To be fair, I think his players all fucking loved him. I actually think he did a pretty good job with Aberdeen in all honesty. When we were down the divisions, he was consistently 2nd in the league I think, which realistically is the most they could ever hope for. He did well in the cups as well. He had a honking season and they sacked him and have replaced him with this fucking Glass muppet who is rotten. If it wasnt for that whole period where he basically knocked us back, I think many more folk would have been pretty positive about him coming in to least to take the reigns whilst we sorted something out long term. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virtuoso 27,180 Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 How about Solskjaer? Could probably get him for free without any compo due or just till he's sacked. MillwallLoyal 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
teddybear1975 2,063 Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 Xabi Alonso as a left field option. Much like Gerrard coaching Sociedad B team. Had a few decent offers so prob outwith our reach unfortunately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMRFC 4,831 Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 1 minute ago, teddybear1975 said: Xabi Alonso as a left field option. Much like Gerrard coaching Sociedad B team. Had a few decent offers so prob outwith our reach unfortunately. His team are 20th in La Liga 2, not for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitre_mouldmaster 21,509 Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, Ladytonbear said: Don’t disagree with most of what you say, but surely this criteria must be applied to any manager we appoint? Not really. I think GVB has a big enough profile to go and get a job in Italy, Spain, Germany or even possibly a high level championship club that can give him some budget. I think testing himself in a competitive league where he could stamp his authority on a team would be more of a different test for him. Coming to us is a similar, almost easier challenge than what he had in Holland. In charge of one of the big 3, although the lesser of them. It would be the Advocaat signing, but without the Advocaat budget. For someone like Russel Martin (but not actually him), it would be an absolutely enormous challenge, a way to stamp their style onto a team in a budget and let his coaching shine more than who he signs. It is something very different to what they are used to by being in charge of a team with vastly inferior resources to what is around them. I would see this as more of the McLeish signing. We need a McLeish signing right now, we dont have the budget for an Advocaat. Ladytonbear 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueThunder 8,454 Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 I think it’ll be someone who isn’t in employment so would not require compensation- we can’t afford compensation and any money we get for Gerrard will be banked. I think it’ll be Beale or Gio. Beale for continuity and Gio for ex-player factor who is young enough to bond with the team and still command respect. However, no way is Gerrard going anywhere without Beale. QED: It’ll be Lampard 😜 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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