Who’s The Better Player?

[ger4life_1872 29,770]

If we want the club to be what we've been told we will then we need to start selling ppl like patterson to the epl regularly and he needs to go there and progress further 

[peter huistra 1,740]

Tav is better for now but Patterson will have the better career I'd imagine giving the quality of players he's training with and the coaches he's being guided by. 

If Patterson stays and eclipses what Tav has done in his Rangers career then he will be some player. 

[BigBearButt 3,702]

Tav is the better player.

Patterson has bundles of potential though and definately one for the future. He will improve given time and experience. 

[BigBearButt 3,702]

1 hour ago, ger4life_1872 said:

If we want the club to be what we've been told we will then we need to start selling ppl like patterson to the epl regularly and he needs to go there and progress further 

Exactly. As much as people hate seeing our better players or younger talent leave we kinda need them to (and need them to perform well when they do) if we want to become self sufficient in the long run. 

We are not in the position to be guaranteed champions league money every season so selling players should and will be the only way we can continually improve and progress as a club. 

[STEPPS BOY 74,697]

2 hours ago, DiamondDan said:

Question for everyone that think Patterson is going to be the next big star:

How good do you think he will be?

The best full back in world football of his era? Like Lillian Thuram or Maldini?

A star performer in a top league winning side ike TAA or Andy Robertson?

A decent full back that plays for Scotland and a mid table side like Tierney?

Nail your colours to the master and we can come-back in a few years and see who was correct.

 

If you think Tierney is only decent then that says it all about your knowledge of football.

[STEPPS BOY 74,697]

15 minutes ago, DiamondDan said:

He is a level below the ones named in the categories above.

Below Robertson?

Absolute nonsense.

Tierney walks into any EPL starting line up and should be Scotlands left back instead of Robertson.

[ayro 3,107]

2 hours ago, DiamondDan said:

Question for everyone that think Patterson is going to be the next big star:

How good do you think he will be?

The best full back in world football of his era? Like Lillian Thuram or Maldini?

A star performer in a top league winning side ike TAA or Andy Robertson?

A decent full back that plays for Scotland and a mid table side like Tierney?

Nail your colours to the master and we can come-back in a few years and see who was correct.

 

Tin hat on but Tierney is better than decent, he’s still a horrible papish rat but as a footballer is better than decent.

I think Patterson can be at that level if he were to move to an EPL team between 5-10 general league position.

To get to the next level he needs to be a bit lucky tbh in who the manager is as that would be key in his development ie Robertson doesn’t get to his level without Klopp and has a bit of luck to avoid serious injury.

Thuram and Maldini were generational talents that imo is a step beyond NP but who knows when it comes to potential.

 

[G.E.C. 19,002]

40 minutes ago, STEPPS BOY said:

Below Robertson?

Absolute nonsense.

Tierney walks into any EPL starting line up and should be Scotlands left back instead of Robertson.

I think ever since Arsenal/Scotland moved him to left centre back he’s got better and better.

[ForeverAndEver 71,977]

2 hours ago, STEPPS BOY said:

If you think Tierney is only decent then that says it all about your knowledge of football.

Also didn’t know 4th in the league was mid table either…

[EMRFC 4,831]

16 hours ago, Raymond Bad Barneyfeld said:

That’s just not true at all. 

What? Yes it is, we relied on him and Barisic very heavily in first half of the season. Then he went off the boil a bit after his free kick vs Dundee United. If Patterson started all the games Tavernier did last season we don’t go into new year 16 points clear or whatever it was.

[Rangers_no1 32,936]

Robertson is better than Tierney.

[EMRFC 4,831]

3 minutes ago, Rangers_no1 said:

Robertson is better than Tierney.

Goes without saying tbh

[EMRFC 4,831]

Robertson and Trent stand out in a team with Salah, Mane etc.

Tierney stands out in Arsenal team because he’s been one of the few that’s actually been decent for the past couple seasons.

Both are very good, but Robertson is clear.

[STEPPS BOY 74,697]

20 minutes ago, DiamondDan said:

Show me his medals....

What’s that got to do with it  

If that’s your parameter then Zinchenko at Man City is better than Robertson then.

[EMRFC 4,831]

7 minutes ago, STEPPS BOY said:

What’s that got to do with it  

If that’s your parameter then Zinchenko at Man City is better than Robertson then.

Zinchenko has never been City’s first choice though, Mendy and Cancelo have been. Robertson has been one of the most important players in a team thats won a UCL and PL.

[STEPPS BOY 74,697]

2 minutes ago, EMRFC said:

Zinchenko has never been City’s first choice though, Mendy and Cancelo have been. Robertson has been one of the most important players in a team thats won a UCL and PL.

His point is that medals determine who the better player is. That’s a nonsense argument.

[ForeverAndEver 71,977]

43 minutes ago, EMRFC said:

What? Yes it is, we relied on him and Barisic very heavily in first half of the season. Then he went off the boil a bit after his free kick vs Dundee United. If Patterson started all the games Tavernier did last season we don’t go into new year 16 points clear or whatever it was.

Go through the first half of last season and show me us relying on Tav’s goals.

[ForeverAndEver 71,977]

Tierney’s a better player for Scotland than Robertson, Robertson’s better for Liverpool than Tierney is for Arsenal. 
 

Robertson is incredibly overrated though.

[Creampuff 22,628]

Who is better is a slightly different question, but calling Tierney a ‘level below’ TAA/Robertson is just because he used to play for Celtic tbh. He’s obviously a very good player.

[Bearsinblue 165]

At the moment I would say Tav because he is playing well and contributing to the teams performances. I think Patterson is an exceptional talent and with more games has the potential to turn out to be a better player than Tav in the coming years . We are very fortunate to have 2 top RB in our squad . If you asked that same question a few months ago I probably would have said Patterson 🤣. I’m a firm believer that the inform player , no matter the age should be worthy of a start IMO 🔴⚪️🔵

[Moody Blue 9,476]

As it stands right now, it’s Tavernier, which was focus of the question. 

However, I’ve said many a time we need to improve the business model so I’d sell Tav if possible in the summer,  play Patterson who cost nothing. Once he develops more, his price will increase while we look to produce a replacement from the academy or bring another youngster in like Bassey and coach. Rinse and repeat. 

Unfortunately, we are reeking when it comes to selling players so we’ll no doubt sell Patterson for a reduced fee and then let Tav run down his contract and leave for nowt. 

[bluenose244 2,622]

If Patterson was good enough to take the shirt off Tavernier there would be no need for a debate.

He's not moving Tavernier and rightly so in my opinion...

Whether he will be 2, 3 or 5 times the player of Tavernier in years to come is irrelevant, the here and now is what matters at Ibrox.

[EMRFC 4,831]

1 hour ago, Raymond Bad Barneyfeld said:

Go through the first half of last season and show me us relying on Tav’s goals.

Tavs goals (left) and assists (right) from second game of season until Dundee United away

[born a blue nose 90,993]

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[ForeverAndEver 71,977]

15 minutes ago, EMRFC said:

Tavs goals (left) and assists (right) from second game of season until Dundee United away

So how many goals were winners, or goals to get us back into games?

To say we relied on him for goals for half that season is doing the team a disservice