plymouthranger 3,888 Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 With another addition In Yilmaz seemingly done, we must’ve added A LOT to our wage bill this summer. Considering 12 months ago we were told the wage bill needed to be lowered, is it safe to assume we’ve decided to spend less of the Bassey/Aribo/Patterson fees and use more of that on the wage bill? Is that sustainable and who do we have out of contract over the next 12 months to lighten it? Do we expect to see some departures now and if so, who do you think will be leaving? OrangeRab and BroxiSonBoris 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Moody Blue 9,404 Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 Yes Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanVeenRangers 2,544 Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 I'd still expect to see a few sold, released or sent on loan with wages covered. Simpson, Katic, Middleton, Roofe to start with. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 65,104 Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 Need to get rid of Simpson, Sakala, Balogun, Middleton, McGregor, Tillman, Zukowski, Kamara and Weston at a minimum imo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iakona 2,261 Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 9 minutes ago, plymouthranger said: With another addition In Yilmaz seemingly done, we must’ve added A LOT to our wage bill this summer. Considering 12 months ago we were told the wage bill needed to be lowered, is it safe to assume we’ve decided to spend less of the Bassey/Aribo/Patterson fees and use more of that on the wage bill? Is that sustainable and who do we have out of contract over the next 12 months to lighten it? Do we expect to see some departures now and if so, who do you think will be leaving? Id imagine Davis, Shagger and Arfield have also taken substantial pay cuts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,960 Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Iakona said: Id imagine Davis, Shagger and Arfield have also taken substantial pay cuts. With the recent additions and possibly one more, Davis & Arfield will see very little game time which makes the extensions pointless and a waste of money. OrangeRab 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maverick1200 2,832 Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 4 minutes ago, bluenoz said: With the recent additions and possibly one more, Davis & Arfield will see very little game time which makes the extensions pointless and a waste of money. I think their roles are to mentor their younger replacements and fill the euro squad. One Jock Wallace 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iakona 2,261 Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 14 minutes ago, bluenoz said: With the recent additions and possibly one more, Davis & Arfield will see very little game time which makes the extensions pointless and a waste of money. Some continuity is required when making a large amount of changes to a squad - especially with experienced players like the aforementioned. They’ve both played at the highest level and are model pros.. having them around the squad, even with limited game time still has its benefits. One Jock Wallace 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeRab 2,780 Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 12 minutes ago, Iakona said: Some continuity is required when making a large amount of changes to a squad - especially with experienced players like the aforementioned. They’ve both played at the highest level and are model pros.. having them around the squad, even with limited game time still has its benefits. I think it’s a bit over rated. Can equally have the opposite effect. Lot of squad players who aren’t good enough to make the first team. Are they going to be first in and last to leave when they know they won’t be playing. Coaches are for experience, training and standards. And then you need experienced heads who are actually on the field. Re-signing Davis and Arfield who hopefully will see little to no game time if everyone stays fit seems a bit of a short sighted move given the names we’ve brought in. May as well get Boyd and Miller back in to have around the squad for their experience by that logic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,960 Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 10 minutes ago, Iakona said: Some continuity is required when making a large amount of changes to a squad - especially with experienced players like the aforementioned. They’ve both played at the highest level and are model pros.. having them around the squad, even with limited game time still has its benefits. I keep hearing this, and although true, we have tons of leadership in the dressing room with the likes of Tav, Goldson, Barisic, Lundstram, Jack and now Lawrence. OrangeRab 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TamCoopz 19,605 Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 40 minutes ago, bluenoz said: With the recent additions and possibly one more, Davis & Arfield will see very little game time which makes the extensions pointless and a waste of money. Contracts might be based around any game time they get. Can’t really say it’s a waste of money without knowing the ins and outs Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 34,675 Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 There is some amount of dross that needs shifted, could get rid of the likes of Helander, Roofe, Sakala, Davis, Arfield, Katic, Simpson, Middleton and wouldn’t know any different. New deals for McGregor, Arfield and Davis are baffling. JograBear, OrangeRab and threshold 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 34,675 Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 14 minutes ago, bluenoz said: I keep hearing this, and although true, we have tons of leadership in the dressing room with the likes of Tav, Goldson, Barisic, Lundstram, Jack and now Lawrence. Not having that. kelvd1873 and KeyserSoze 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,960 Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 1 minute ago, TamCoopz said: Contracts might be based around any game time they get. Can’t really say it’s a waste of money without knowing the ins and outs They are no signing for nought mate. I doubt they would sign a contract based on game time knowing it would be limited. Who knows, Davis still might turn out to be valuable but I don't see where Scotty fits in anymore. More so, when Hagi returns. TamCoopz 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeRab 2,780 Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 1 minute ago, TamCoopz said: Contracts might be based around any game time they get. Can’t really say it’s a waste of money without knowing the ins and outs True. Fingers crossed. I hope we don’t have to rely on them for any important matches really which is itself worrying. So probably would have preferred the club were a bit more forward looking and signed some free/cheap youngsters or loans that had the potential to improve us in the year to come. 68 appearances between them last year and combined 6 goal+assists. Turning 38 and 34 this year. I just don’t see the logic behind it. TamCoopz 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,960 Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 Just now, graeme_4 said: Not having that. A 29yr old Croatian Internationalist doesn't have the experience to mentor younger players? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 34,675 Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 1 minute ago, bluenoz said: A 29yr old Croatian Internationalist doesn't have the experience to mentor younger players? I’m saying he isn’t a leader. Absolutely crumbles for months. Negri's lovechild and ForeverAndEver 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TamCoopz 19,605 Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 1 minute ago, bluenoz said: They are no signing for nought mate. I doubt they would sign a contract based on game time knowing it would be limited. Who knows, Davis still might turn out to be valuable but I don't see where Scotty fits in anymore. More so, when Hagi returns. I don’t particularly agree with them being kept on, especially with all the new signings but they will help settle the new guys in, just need to trust that it’s what Gio wanted and hope we get another 60 game season and they can make a contribution to wining trophies Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 65,104 Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 16 minutes ago, graeme_4 said: There is some amount of dross that needs shifted, could get rid of the likes of Helander, Roofe, Sakala, Davis, Arfield, Katic, Simpson, Middleton and wouldn’t know any different. New deals for McGregor, Arfield and Davis are baffling. Roofe has 18 and 16 goals in his 2 seasons here, of course we would know different losing that kind of record. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 34,675 Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, The Specky Liar said: Roofe has 18 and 16 goals in his 2 seasons here, of course we would know different losing that kind of record. Absolutely cannot be relied upon, he’s far too injury prone. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Maestro 11,218 Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 1 hour ago, The Specky Liar said: Need to get rid of Simpson, Sakala, Balogun, Middleton, McGregor, Tillman, Zukowski, Kamara and Weston at a minimum imo. We need to get rid of the youth player who is out on loan? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 34,675 Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, J-Maestro said: We need to get rid of the youth player who is out on loan? And one that left on a free transfer already J-Maestro and kelvd1873 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misteral 2,932 Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, J-Maestro said: We need to get rid of the youth player who is out on loan? And a guy who's already left, Balogun. And a guy who signed on loan last week, Tillman. Poster is an idiot or just a troll. J-Maestro 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie0202 12,380 Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 I'm not convinced our wage bill will be any higher than a couple of months ago. I've no idea about numbers but just looking at the ins and outs as a fan I don't think we have pushed the boat out too far, if at all. Added to wage bill Yilmaz Colak Matondo Davies Lawrence Souter Tillman Katic Removed from wage bill Ramsay Diallo Aribo Bassey Itten Balogun Hastie Firth McGregor - Potentially on reduced terms? Davis - Potentially on reduced terms Arfield - Potentially on reduced terms kelvd1873, demise and Mojo84 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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