bluenose244 2,622 Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 12 hours ago, The Ibrox Derry said: I don't know tbh. Does the captain role hold the same importance in modern football? Not something I think much about tbh. I've had this argument levelled at me before and my answer is always if the role isn't a big deal anymore then equally taking the armband off him shouldn't be seen as a big deal and there's no harm in doing so just to see if there's a positive reaction. The Ibrox Derry, mearns loyal, crazy bob swollenbaws and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenose244 2,622 Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 11 hours ago, The Hammer 11 said: A Smart manager would try and find a way to engineer a move in January for tav Beale had the perfect opportunity this time last year but he clearly was the opposite of smart. A huge deal was made out of Kent and Morelos when in reality it should have been Tav, Goldson, Barasic, Lundstram, Kent and Morelos, the only difference was those 2 players contracts made his decision easy as he had no fucking decision to make the 2 players made it for him! crazy bob swollenbaws 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMax399 3,864 Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 41 minutes ago, Drunk and disorderly. said: It's the manager's job to lead in a strategic manner. Tav generally leads by example on the pitch , but he didn't buy the players in the summer. Not his fault that Dessers and co. are useless, he can not force them into becoming good players. Neither did he give that donkey Beale a contract . It will be up to the new manager to get the best out of those players or ship them out. The captaincy role is totally overrated by some on here. You'd think it was a higher role than the manager. There is no natural successor to Tav as captain either. I doubt any of our players would want the role anyhow. Because apparently the captain is to blame for everything that goes wrong according to some. You are primarily a punchbag. The mistakes made from boardroom to management level are are all blamed on you. Any player with a brain would knock it back. Cunt of a job. So, we continue to accept mediocrity and a man who clearly has no leadership skills or reasonable level of success on the pitch? He needs to be pushed to the side. Bears and crazy bob swollenbaws 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackAlex93 11,608 Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 16 hours ago, BlueSuedeSambas said: As things stand right now, I think Jack Butland is the next Rangers captain but he’s not going to be handed the armband now. Can see a situation next season where Tav remains the “club captain” going forward, but as his minutes start to reduce (which they should because he will turn 33 not long after the season starts) Butland will have the armband more on a week to week basis. I'd love to start next season with someone else wearing the number 2 jersey and a new captain. crazy bob swollenbaws 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze 14,697 Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 17 minutes ago, DMax399 said: So, we continue to accept mediocrity and a man who clearly has no leadership skills or reasonable level of success on the pitch? He needs to be pushed to the side. You clearly didn’t read @Drunk and disorderly.post correctly did you? Drunk and disorderly. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBOO72 4,466 Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 Still yes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,622 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 I think its time to clear out the old guard as they are not winners. mearns loyal, Bears and King Jela 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jela 20,662 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 41 minutes ago, Smile said: I think its time to clear out the old guard as they are not winners. Too many scars from failure. Bears and Smile 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueKnight87 17,440 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Smile said: I think its time to clear out the old guard as they are not winners. Whoever the new manager is. For me he's got to clear out what remains of the Gerrard era team. Tav Goldson Barasic etc all need to go. Smile and crazy bob swollenbaws 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al 55 9,311 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 7 minutes ago, BlueKnight87 said: Whoever the new manager is. For me he's got to clear out what remains of the Gerrard era team. Tav Goldson Barasic etc all need to go. Unfortunately for us many of the new signings need to go first. I doubt Tav and Goldson will be high on the new managers list to ship out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,622 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 38 minutes ago, BlueKnight87 said: Whoever the new manager is. For me he's got to clear out what remains of the Gerrard era team. Tav Goldson Barasic etc all need to go. Yes, they do they just do not have what it takes to get us winning trophies and are terrified when we play them even when they had half a team out at Ibrox. Bears and BlueKnight87 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,622 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 1 hour ago, King Jela said: Too many scars from failure. Yes, that's the problem they go into games expecting to get beat or play for a draw. Bears 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZZed 4,510 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 I think UEFA are stopping players questioning the ref and the captain is the one that is meant to speak with the Ref on the park. This means the Captain should be someone articulate and intellegent. Will let the manager decide who fits the bill but I don't see him coming into a new club a quater of the way through the season and changing the Captain. I hope he has a long look at what is needed from now up to the Christmas window and has the money to change our disfunctional defense, midfield and forward line with a player or two in each area. I hope that during the Christmas window we are able to shift some of the dross that has gathered under Wilson and Beale. If Tav stops being Captain, Christmas would be the earliest it would happen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunk and disorderly. 14,677 Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 How many seasons in a row has Tav been our top goal scorer! Much we spent on forwards? KeyserSoze 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wearethepeople72 1,847 Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 Yup, he is a shitebag but it runs deeper than that, surely people can see that Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze 14,697 Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Wearethepeople72 said: Yup, he is a shitebag but it runs deeper than that, surely people can see that Pish. He’s never a shitebag. He’s been consistent for years contributing goals for the team. J-Maestro 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 83,802 Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 2 hours ago, KeyserSoze said: Pish. He’s never a shitebag. He’s been consistent for years contributing goals for the team. He’s a defender though. There’s no doubting his ability getting forward but has anyone ever seriously rated him in his actual role of defending? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Maestro 11,809 Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, .Williamson. said: He’s a defender though. There’s no doubting his ability getting forward but has anyone ever seriously rated him in his actual role of defending? They were talking on Open Goal about him being moved in to midfield, which might not be the worst idea as he gets older. He rarely makes any runs from deep these days anyway. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 83,802 Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 11 minutes ago, J-Maestro said: They were talking on Open Goal about him being moved in to midfield, which might not be the worst idea as he gets older. He rarely makes any runs from deep these days anyway. Not for me Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cr3_bear 15,025 Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 On 10/10/2023 at 23:08, The Ibrox Derry said: I don't know tbh. Does the captain role hold the same importance in modern football? Not something I think much about tbh. In the Scottish game and even more so in the rivalry between us and them I would say it’s still a vital role Celtic’s current captain and their previous prick in the role have been hugely influential to their squads over the last decade The Ibrox Derry and crazy bob swollenbaws 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wearethepeople72 1,847 Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 3 hours ago, KeyserSoze said: Pish. He’s never a shitebag. He’s been consistent for years contributing goals for the team. He’s got a losing mentality though same with Goldson and Barasic. Think we need to rid ourselves of that, he’s cost us more goals than he’s contributed to so far this season. crazy bob swollenbaws 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze 14,697 Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 4 hours ago, .Williamson. said: He’s a defender though. There’s no doubting his ability getting forward but has anyone ever seriously rated him in his actual role of defending? Tbf he’s a wing back and playing that system you need your DMF and CB to tuck in. Pity our managers didn’t really apply that strategy. Drunk and disorderly. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze 14,697 Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 4 hours ago, Wearethepeople72 said: He’s got a losing mentality though same with Goldson and Barasic. Think we need to rid ourselves of that, he’s cost us more goals than he’s contributed to so far this season. So you think 9 goals against us in the SPFL have been his fault when we’ve only conceded 5. fail maths at school did you Drunk and disorderly. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Maestro 11,809 Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 7 hours ago, .Williamson. said: Not for me Can’t be any worse than what we’ve currently got there. They were talking about central too, not out wide right. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 83,802 Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 5 minutes ago, J-Maestro said: Can’t be any worse than what we’ve currently got there. They were talking about central too, not out wide right. That has confirmed it for me then, I am definitely not interested J-Maestro 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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