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Sorry but that’s more Rangers Manager soundbite pish about a pathway than an actual pathway.

There is no pathway, the players cant step up to the plate and prove themself when they aren’t given more than 5 minutes at the end of a game to do so, even in dead rubber games at the end of the season never mind in games with something to play for.

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16 minutes ago, GA1972 said:

He doesn’t half talk some amount of shite at times 

Sure Gerrard said the exact same about this ‘pathway’ and he wouldn’t even give Patterson game time until he was forced 

What di you want him to say in interviews?  
 

You’re moaning about absolutely nothing 

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Agree with what he says about the first team, but Beale really hasn't given the youths a chance.

I don't think a single youth player got half a  chance. How many youth players had half a game or more? Maybe they aren't up to standard right enough, and if so he need to change that. 

 

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Just now, KeyserSoze said:

What di you want him to say in interviews?  
 

You’re moaning about absolutely nothing 

Just don’t say stuff I know is absolute nonsense, unless you’re an absolute superstar there’s no pathway and even at that you’ll still struggle to get in no matter how shite the first team players are 

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2 minutes ago, Drunk and disorderly. said:

Agree with what he says about the first team, but Beale really hasn't given the youths a chance.

I don't think a single youth player got half a  chance. How many youth players had half a game or more? Maybe they aren't up to standard right enough, and if so he need to change that. 

 

Youth players have had their chance where appropriate. Leon King had a good run in the team, however in that time it showed that he still has a lot to learn and therefore you couldn't put him in regularly unless you had to. And that is the case with young players and that's why they need to be used in moderation.

Give me a good experienced player over a youthful flash in the pan player and day of the week. 

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Just now, GA1972 said:

Just don’t say stuff I know is absolute nonsense, unless you’re an absolute superstar there’s no pathway and even at that you’ll still struggle to get in no matter how shite the first team players are 

We had a horrendous injury list this season, and that's the only reaso. One or two got a go. Because the manager had no choice.

There is a pathway though, if you are a young Ronaldo and score every game. :craphead:

 

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Just now, MisterC said:

Youth players have had their chance where appropriate. Leon King had a good run in the team, however in that time it showed that he still has a lot to learn and therefore you couldn't put him in regularly unless you had to. And that is the case with young players and that's why they need to be used in moderation.

Give me a good experienced player over a youthful flash in the pan player and day of the week. 

I like King, although a select few on here don't take his age on board when he makes mistakes. Defo one for the future imo. 

Let's be honest though mate, only reason King got a run is because there were no fit defenders. As soon as they were fit he was bumped. 

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Patterson only got his chance two seasons ago in Jan-Mar when Tav was out injured. Same for King, who unfortunately got thrown to the wolves in the toughest CL group. Not the best way to be introduced to pro football.

Lowry has an outside-side chance this season, but I won't hold my breath, but from what I have seen so far, Rice is a star in the making for season 24-25

The spine of your team should always be your experienced or best players, but youth have the odds stacked against them at Rangers because our managers are under immense pressure to win every game.

 

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15 minutes ago, MisterC said:

Youth players have had their chance where appropriate. Leon King had a good run in the team, however in that time it showed that he still has a lot to learn and therefore you couldn't put him in regularly unless you had to. And that is the case with young players and that's why they need to be used in moderation.

Give me a good experienced player over a youthful flash in the pan player and day of the week. 

People were calling on here for youths to get a chance when leauge was over. Didn't happen.

Some pathway that! As I said earlier, maybe they aren't good enough. 

They only get a chance when we are ravaged by injuries. Defy anyone to prove otherwise. 

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See this "youth players don't get a chance" patter, it's nonsense! They get the "chance" every single day in training to show they deserve game time.

The manager is not going to refuse to play someone who would improve the side. If he was scared  to trust young players then he wouldn't have played Tillman in all the big games last season. 

If youth players ain't getting game time then it's because they aren't good enough and aren't showing enough. Jerseys should be earned, not awarded.

Gerrard, Gio, now Beale have all been accused of "not giving youth a chance". The common denominator in that equation is the fans. It's not that all 3 don't give youth a chance; its Rangers fans vastly over rate youth players!

Everyone is so desperate for a star to be produced that they have blinkers on and ignore any evidence that suggests these boys haven't got what it takes.

It's constant! a few years ago Kai Kennedy was going to be a major star, today he's without a club. Lowry and King will no doubt be next.

That's not because any manager didn't "give them a chance" it's because they are over hyped, not good enough, have poor attitudes, or a combination of all 3.

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10 minutes ago, DiamondDan said:

See this "youth players don't get a chance" patter, it's nonsense! They get the "chance" every single day in training to show they deserve game time.

The manager is not going to refuse to play someone who would improve the side. If he was scared  to trust young players then he wouldn't have played Tillman in all the big games last season. 

If youth players ain't getting game time then it's because they aren't good enough and aren't showing enough. Jerseys should be earned, not awarded.

Gerrard, Gio, now Beale have all been accused of "not giving youth a chance". The common denominator in that equation is the fans. It's not that all 3 don't give youth a chance; its Rangers fans vastly over rate youth players!

Everyone is so desperate for a star to be produced that they have blinkers on and ignore any evidence that suggests these boys haven't got what it takes.

It's constant! a few years ago Kai Kennedy was going to be a major star, today he's without a club. Lowry and King will no doubt be next.

That's not because any manager didn't "give them a chance" it's because they are over hyped, not good enough, have poor attitudes, or a combination of all 3.

The manager at the time was also saying that.

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38 minutes ago, DiamondDan said:

See this "youth players don't get a chance" patter, it's nonsense! They get the "chance" every single day in training to show they deserve game time.

The manager is not going to refuse to play someone who would improve the side. If he was scared  to trust young players then he wouldn't have played Tillman in all the big games last season. 

If youth players ain't getting game time then it's because they aren't good enough and aren't showing enough. Jerseys should be earned, not awarded.

Gerrard, Gio, now Beale have all been accused of "not giving youth a chance". The common denominator in that equation is the fans. It's not that all 3 don't give youth a chance; its Rangers fans vastly over rate youth players!

Everyone is so desperate for a star to be produced that they have blinkers on and ignore any evidence that suggests these boys haven't got what it takes.

It's constant! a few years ago Kai Kennedy was going to be a major star, today he's without a club. Lowry and King will no doubt be next.

That's not because any manager didn't "give them a chance" it's because they are over hyped, not good enough, have poor attitudes, or a combination of all 3.

Incomparable 

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14 hours ago, SwallowsHisOwnSpunk said:

Sorry but that’s more Rangers Manager soundbite pish about a pathway than an actual pathway.

There is no pathway, the players cant step up to the plate and prove themself when they aren’t given more than 5 minutes at the end of a game to do so, even in dead rubber games at the end of the season never mind in games with something to play for.

No way MB has just decided to release a ‘pathway’ statement of his own accord.  
 

Board level driven sounbites to try & show the youth set up is structured & fit for purpose.  

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Beale prioritised those who are still contracted to us next season, or he knew would be re-signing like Jack, whilst also giving minutes to some known leavers over youths.

He wanted to win games and still opted to pick those leaving rather than youths. He even picked Lundstram at CH over King.

Results suggest he wasn't wrong, imo he likely doesn't trust or rate the current crop of youths that were available post split.

 

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Raskin, Tillman and Yilmaz all got plenty of game time. They were all 21 last season.

It's up to the younger players to prove in training that they are good enough to get their chance. Then when they do get their chance, they need to show that they are at least as good or better than the established players in that position.

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16 hours ago, SwallowsHisOwnSpunk said:

Sorry but that’s more Rangers Manager soundbite pish about a pathway than an actual pathway.

There is no pathway, the players cant step up to the plate and prove themself when they aren’t given more than 5 minutes at the end of a game to do so, even in dead rubber games at the end of the season never mind in games with something to play for.

Played players who were not going to be here and were finished last season for the remaining games rather than gave youth a chance.

A youth coach who doesn't seem to trust youth players in meaningless games.

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