MacBoyd 5,634 Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 If we miraculously are closer to celtic at the winter break, you'd maybe do it right enough... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Traive 23,226 Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 7 hours ago, The Specky Forum Organiser said: I think you're looking at £3m very max for Shankland, maybe something to be done there involving Lowry and I think he's worth it. If we gave them £1.5m plus extended loans for Lowry and King, that’s a brilliant deal for them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 54,447 Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 2 hours ago, Colin Traive said: If we gave them £1.5m plus extended loans for Lowry and King, that’s a brilliant deal for them. No it’s not. They wouldn’t entertain that for a second IMO. STEPPS BOY 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooperson 871 Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 15 minutes ago, BlueSuedeSambas said: No it’s not. They wouldn’t entertain that for a second IMO. Someone said the other day on one pod cast, give them back Soutar and they can keep Lowry aswell maybe? Don't want Shankland myself tbf Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 75,046 Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 2 hours ago, Colin Traive said: If we gave them £1.5m plus extended loans for Lowry and King, that’s a brilliant deal for them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Traive 23,226 Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 24 minutes ago, BlueSuedeSambas said: No it’s not. They wouldn’t entertain that for a second IMO. Lowry and King are better than what they have or what they could afford and they’d be trebling what they spent on Shankland. Yeah, really poor deal Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 54,447 Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 9 minutes ago, Colin Traive said: Lowry and King are better than what they have or what they could afford and they’d be trebling what they spent on Shankland. Yeah, really poor deal What they paid for him is irrelevant. He’s worth more than 1.5 million, both in the market and to Hearts on the park. If some club came for Butland and offered us about half of his true market value and a couple of young players who can’t get near the first team on loan then everybody would rightly be pissing themselves laughing, so why would it be appealing to another club? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
285miles 515 Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 There’ll be a Rangers premium to pay on top of the valuation as well Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Traive 23,226 Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 22 minutes ago, BlueSuedeSambas said: What they paid for him is irrelevant. He’s worth more than 1.5 million, both in the market and to Hearts on the park. If some club came for Butland and offered us about half of his true market value and a couple of young players who can’t get near the first team on loan then everybody would rightly be pissing themselves laughing, so why would it be appealing to another club? Is buying at one price and selling at three times that figure not the very trading model we’re aspiring to? Having said that, I get your point. Just pissed off that we’re back in this position and we don’t even have Joe Aribo to play up front Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted E Bayer 490 Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 I think celtic are getting the better player in Miovski. Can easily see him scoring a lot of goals for them and then being sold for double the price. MacBoyd and lewislaudrup 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeRab 3,031 Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 No doubt Miovski is the better of the two. But doubt celtic would get him for less than 5. If we’ve closed the gap by the January window I’d be happy taking a punt on Shankland for 1-2. If we’re not then don’t see the point spending any money on him MacBoyd 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoplandRoad83 3,372 Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 Rather than spend 4 or 5 million on these types of players, the bigger question is why our scouting system seems unable to find them (or players of that quality and potential) when they are available for much cheaper. paul73 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted E Bayer 490 Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, OrangeRab said: No doubt Miovski is the better of the two. But doubt celtic would get him for less than 5. If we’ve closed the gap by the January window I’d be happy taking a punt on Shankland for 1-2. If we’re not then don’t see the point spending any money on him I think they'll pay it. Suggestions that they're prepping a 4.5 mil bid. Miovski the younger of the two, probably the better all-rounder, but I'd argue that Shankland is more suited to our style of play. But they will no doubt profit from bringing him in, even if they do pay Aberdeen a pretty penny. He'll score a lot more goals with the chances he'll get and has that sell on that Shankland probably doesn. The fact that we're agreeing Miovski is the better of the two players, and the fact that we'd both settle for Shankland is a sad indictment of where we are at the moment as a club. OrangeRab 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 110,177 Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 They’re going for the cunt from brondby they tried to get in the summer. Rumour has it he’s close to signing for them, if he does they aren’t going for Miovski Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze 14,696 Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 Anyone who can’t beat Lundstram to a ball over 300yrds should probably chuck it tbh Boybluesy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boybluesy 3,815 Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 To be fair I don't think Boyd would have beat Lundstram to that ball. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueKnight87 17,438 Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 33 minutes ago, CoplandRoad83 said: Rather than spend 4 or 5 million on these types of players, the bigger question is why our scouting system seems unable to find them (or players of that quality and potential) when they are available for much cheaper. Our scouting system has been terrible. Thankfully we've started tearing it up. CoplandRoad83 and SteveEarle 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted E Bayer 490 Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 Whoever we sign, I hope one of his main attributes is aerial ability. We can be cross happy at times when we're struggling to break teams down. Hit and hope cross from deep, cleared my SPL wooden plank defenders, back to Tav/Borna to repeat aimless/hopeful bullshit. But if we had a player in there with the high-end aerial ability, then it could really make a difference. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacBoyd 5,634 Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Ted E Bayer said: I think celtic are getting the better player in Miovski. Can easily see him scoring a lot of goals for them and then being sold for double the price. Can't disagree. Younger, faster, potential sell on fee. Sheep would want big money from us tho. Ted E Bayer 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacBoyd 5,634 Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 1 hour ago, OrangeRab said: No doubt Miovski is the better of the two. But doubt celtic would get him for less than 5. If we’ve closed the gap by the January window I’d be happy taking a punt on Shankland for 1-2. If we’re not then don’t see the point spending any money on him Yep exactly how I see it, if we lose any more ground there's no point spending decent money on a 28 year old who is unlikely to be a main striker for title winning side imo OrangeRab 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacBoyd 5,634 Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Ted E Bayer said: I think they'll pay it. Suggestions that they're prepping a 4.5 mil bid. Miovski the younger of the two, probably the better all-rounder, but I'd argue that Shankland is more suited to our style of play. But they will no doubt profit from bringing him in, even if they do pay Aberdeen a pretty penny. He'll score a lot more goals with the chances he'll get and has that sell on that Shankland probably doesn. The fact that we're agreeing Miovski is the better of the two players, and the fact that we'd both settle for Shankland is a sad indictment of where we are at the moment as a club. Worth bearing in mind there are other strikers I'm football. Just cos beale signed 2 utter duds(maybe 3) for big money abroad doesn't mean we only look at spl market Ted E Bayer 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BlueSuedeSambas 54,447 Posted December 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 9, 2023 Rather than signing Miovski for a fortune from Aberdeen we should be putting systems in place that allow us to actually go out and find somebody like him to begin with when he’s still playing in Hungary and he’s not going to cost us a fortune. SteveEarle, WilliamMunny, SkylineBlue and 6 others 9 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrshireranger 8,429 Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 Diallo probably available in January as Man U loan him again. Was sensational at Sunderland. OrangeRab 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 72,650 Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 23 hours ago, Ted E Bayer said: Whoever we sign, I hope one of his main attributes is aerial ability. We can be cross happy at times when we're struggling to break teams down. Hit and hope cross from deep, cleared my SPL wooden plank defenders, back to Tav/Borna to repeat aimless/hopeful bullshit. But if we had a player in there with the high-end aerial ability, then it could really make a difference. Itten and Colak then Ted E Bayer 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeRab 3,031 Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 7 hours ago, ayrshireranger said: Diallo probably available in January as Man U loan him again. Was sensational at Sunderland. Can’t see us getting him. But would be a great addition as far as loan deals come. ayrshireranger 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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