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I don't understand why people seem shocked and are even complaining that others have different opinions on the man!

My question is this.. Is terrorism & the killing of innocent human beings acceptable because the overall cause was justified?!

The fact this is happening at Scottish Football matches is ridiculous!

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Whether you like it or not, the whole world is united in its public praise of Mandela.

If there is one single flicker of disrespect shown in Ibrox tomorrow (which is inevitable), we will get battered from pillar to post over it, and this time it won't just be Scotland, because the whole world will see it as disrespectful. So if we don't want to become public enemy number one tomorrow, then we need to use a bit of Realpolitik.

I advocate that irrespective of your personal feelings or opinions, you should just bite your tongue, and comply with the general consensus.

You may want to argue that that is the coward's way out, and you have to stand up for your principles.

I'd counter that with "stop being a pompous arse and don't f*****g harm my club tomorrow just so that you can feel big and clever."

If someone comes to Ibrox, even if they oppose all our principles and the things we hold dear, we still expect them to respect and observe our traditions, so we should do the same tomorrow.

Thanks for listening.

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Well the good news is that, regardless of the violence and terrorism, the actions of these people certainly resulted in a South Africa that is a far better place to live these days, i mean it's virtually crime free and mindless violence is a thing of the past, and all blacks who were previously disadvantaged now have so many opportunities. It is most certainly not the case that it's only the politicians with questionable backgrounds who are thriving, right?

I would say South Africa is a far better place to live for the black community, don't you agree? cattled used to get treated better than black people.

as for the rest, you'd have a good point if i was trying to suggest it has turned into some leading nations everyone should inspire to.

But i wasn't

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Whether you like it or not, the whole world is united in its public praise of Mandela.

If there is one single flicker of disrespect shown in Ibrox tomorrow (which is inevitable), we will get battered from pillar to post over it, and this time it won't just be Scotland, because the whole world will see it as disrespectful. So if we don't want to become public enemy number one tomorrow, then we need to use a bit of Realpolitik.

I advocate that irrespective of your personal feelings or opinions, you should just bite your tongue, and comply with the general consensus.

You may want to argue that that is the coward's way out, and you have to stand up for your principles.

I'd counter that with "stop being a pompous arse and don't f*****g harm my club tomorrow."

If someone comes to Ibrox who totally opposes all our principles, we still expect them to respect and observe our traditions, so we should do the same tomorrow.

Thanks for listening.

Why exactly should people participate in something they don't believe in purely because it is of popular opinion?

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Did I miss something, why would any right thinking individual hate Mandela?

His party campaigned within the law until it was banned, when 69 people were gunned down? If tyranny and injustice ever befalls this land, I hope to fuck some on this thread have more balls than they are showing now.

I can just imagine an independent Scotland voting to oust the Queen, criminalising the right to wave the Union flag and disbanding Rangers as a subvertive force within a free Scotland. And all the Bears on here slating Mandela will bow down and agree because that is the rule of the land.

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Did I miss something, why would any right thinking individual hate Mandela?

His party campaigned within the law until it was banned, when 69 people were gunned down? If tyranny and injustice ever befalls this land, I hope to fuck some on this thread have more balls than they are showing now.

I can just imagine an independent Scotland voting to oust the Queen, criminalising the right to wave the Union flag and disbanding Rangers as a subvertive force within a free Scotland. And all the Bears on here slating Mandela will bow down and agree because that is the rule of the land.

"my position is that you don't hand over your weapons until you get what you want... "

Fuck him. I couldn't give a flying fuck what he done in his own country, it's the company he's kept in my country that makes my opinion of him.

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Whether you like it or not, the whole world is united in its public praise of Mandela.

Incorrect

I for one haven't been giving mandela any praise public or otherwise

personally I dont think Mandela should be given a minutes applause at a football game; not that I like or dislike the guy, I just don't think this sort of stuff should be forced upon people at football games

go have a wee clap in the privacy of your own wardrobe if its that important to you but leave it out of football

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Did I miss something, why would any right thinking individual hate Mandela?

His party campaigned within the law until it was banned, when 69 people were gunned down? If tyranny and injustice ever befalls this land, I hope to fuck some on this thread have more balls than they are showing now.

I can just imagine an independent Scotland voting to oust the Queen, criminalising the right to wave the Union flag and disbanding Rangers as a subvertive force within a free Scotland. And all the Bears on here slating Mandela will bow down and agree because that is the rule of the land.

Yes.

You missed quite a lot.

Like the history of the ANC in South Africa and beyond, and who Mr Mandela was before he was jailed.

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I for one haven't been giving mandela any praise public or otherwise

personally I dont think Mandela should be given a minutes applause at a football game; not that I like or dislike the guy, I just don't think this sort of stuff should be forced upon people at football games

go have a wee clap in the privacy of your own wardrobe if its that important to you but leave it out of football

Mate, the whole world is observing some form of respect for him. A similar line is used by the filth not to observe Armistice Day.

I fully accept people's right not to take part and would defend them for it, I just hope noone is going to disrupt it with booing or jeering or banners or some other fucking moronic display in front of the world.

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I fully accept people's right not to take part and would defend them for it, I just hope noone is going to disrupt it with booing or jeering or banners or some other fucking moronic display in front of the world.

I hope not too

If you don't want to partake then that's fine but don't be an egg about it either: it's just not worth the grief it will bring to the club

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Yes.

You missed quite a lot.

Like the history of the ANC in South Africa and beyond, and who Mr Mandela was before he was jailed.

A Lawyer? Anyway. Some people obviously believe that regardless of the level of injustice, we should always accept the authority of those in power.

Why do people get so upset over the SFA and SPL then?

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