The Dude 20,026 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 ‘Rangers supporters were unhappy that Murty didn’t back his player and Jack said: “Everyone obviously has different opinions. “If you sat 10 people, maybe five would say it was a shocking tackle and five would say it wasn’t too bad.’ Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 20 minutes ago, The Dude said: ‘Rangers supporters were unhappy that Murty didn’t back his player and Jack said: “Everyone obviously has different opinions. “If you sat 10 people, maybe five would say it was a shocking tackle and five would say it wasn’t too bad.’ Who said the Second quote?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd 10,756 Posted June 26, 2018 Author Share Posted June 26, 2018 29 minutes ago, The Dude said: Interesting that you’ve cut the end of Ryan Jack’s quotes. Did I? I didn’t get it off the site just cut and pasted from FF The Dude 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post markem 7,287 Posted June 26, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 26, 2018 48 minutes ago, The Dude said: ‘Rangers supporters were unhappy that Murty didn’t back his player and Jack said: “Everyone obviously has different opinions. “If you sat 10 people, maybe five would say it was a shocking tackle and five would say it wasn’t too bad.’ Soon as I seen this thread I knew you'd be straight in making sure that your position of all being fair and equal with refs isn't compromised. Honestly. Even if your 'all is fair' point stood up, it's not really the point is it? - it was a fucking shocking tackle on Jack that ended his season and didn't apparently merit a foul. Malvern, dougie76, BridgeIsBlue and 4 others 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears r us 30,810 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Hellish tackle and should have been dealt with by the compliance officer since the ref did nothing. Sparkle and jintybear 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 39 minutes ago, Courtyard Bear said: Who said the Second quote?? Quote is taken from the very same article and was said by Ryan Jack. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbGER 24,518 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Happened right in front of me and Kipre had no intention of going for the ball, he went in over the top and made sure he hurt Jack. The ref seen it and let play continue and i was stunned he never at least booked him for it when play stopped. That's my recollection of it. 1690tamRFC 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 32 minutes ago, Siwel said: Did I? I didn’t get it off the site just cut and pasted from FF Fair enough. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 10 minutes ago, markem said: Soon as I seen this thread I knew you'd be straight in making sure that your position of all being fair and equal with refs isn't compromised. Honestly. Even if your 'all is fair' point stood up, it's not really the point is it? - it was a fucking shocking tackle on Jack that ended his season and didn't apparently merit a foul. I've not made any point about referees in this thread. If anything the point that was made was about Murty than the referees. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gman36 3,456 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 2 hours ago, Ivybank said: Why didn't jack say so at the time? Couldn't believe he never, no point now . Can't be a coincidence this is coming out now not long after Gerrard taking charge. Does further highlight the pressing need to punt murty to fuck before he passes his weak philosophy on to the youth any longer Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markem 7,287 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 3 minutes ago, The Dude said: I've not made any point about referees in this thread. If anything the point that was made was about Murty than the referees. As expected you've picked up where you left off on this debate previously in that you'll say whatever it takes to win the point - you know fine well what the motivation behind your comment was, absolutely transparent. Fully appreciate I started it but I'm not going to do this dance all day again, waste of time. graeme_4 and dougie76 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,567 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 9 hours ago, K.A.I said: It was a horrendous tackle when you see it from a certain angle (the camera in the Broomloan Stand looking out to it). Totally intentional IMO. It's a shame that the replay that shows you the ref's view of it doesn't do the tackle justice or the dirty bastard would have got a straight red for it. Why would he have got a straight red for it? How many assaults on our players last season resulted in a straight red? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 64,998 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 1 hour ago, The Dude said: ‘Rangers supporters were unhappy that Murty didn’t back his player and Jack said: “Everyone obviously has different opinions. “If you sat 10 people, maybe five would say it was a shocking tackle and five would say it wasn’t too bad.’ He's not going to come out and go through Murty publicly while he still works for the club is he? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Just now, markem said: As expected you've picked up where you left off on this debate previously in that you'll say whatever it takes to win the point - you know fine well what the motivation behind your comment was, absolutely transparent. Fully appreciate I started it but I'm not going to do this dance all day again, waste of time. I do know what the motivation of my comment was. Far better than you do. ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Just now, Goosetav said: He's not going to come out and go through Murty publicly while he still works for the club is he? He doesn't need to. He can say he disagrees with Murty's view on it however. I don't know why everyone thinks he needs to take the nuclear option re: Murty or say nothing. Jack's not a daft laddie and is a bit more intelligent and eloquent than many other footballers. He could easily say that he felt Murty called it wrong without 'going through him', 'undermining him' or anything else that causes some sort of internal problem at the club. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cushynumber 25,178 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 I was amazed at Murtys comments at the time. It was clearly a tackle designed to injure. Kipre sees jack and does him. Murty was such a spineless, no confrontation, persona Sparkle, SeparateEntityMyArse and Negri's lovechild 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 64,998 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Just now, cushynumber said: I was amazed at Murtys comments at the time. It was clearly a tackle designed to injure. Kipre sees jack and does him. Murty was such a spineless, no confrontation, persona Yet he still has a job at the club preparing our kids for first team football Madness Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markem 7,287 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 1 hour ago, The Dude said: I do know what the motivation of my comment was. Far better than you do. ? So you were just ensuring Murty's full quote was represented and you used language like 'it's interesting you left that out' and it's just a coincidence that the very referenced sentence supports your argument about refs? Ok then Dude, ok. For what it's worth I think you are making the mistake of being a Rangers fan journalist and thinking you need to be seen to be balanced to the point that you're tipping the balance to far the other way. Which is a shame, as we lack genuine any sort of representation in the areas you have established yourself. Bears 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Just now, Goosetav said: Yet he still has a job at the club preparing our kids for first team football Madness It's almost as if the folk at the club who made the decision (Gerrard and Mulholland) have more insight into it than we do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cushynumber 25,178 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, The Dude said: It's almost as if the folk at the club who made the decision (Gerrard and Mulholland) have more insight into it than we do. gerrard and mulholland made the decision that murty stays with the kids? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 72,000 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Murty is a loser and a shitebag. People like that should be hounded from our club. Tiger Shaw 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd 10,756 Posted June 26, 2018 Author Share Posted June 26, 2018 3 minutes ago, cushynumber said: gerrard and mulholland made the decision that murty stays with the kids? We legally didn’t have a choice but to offer him that job back Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cushynumber 25,178 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 1 minute ago, Siwel said: We legally didn’t have a choice but to offer him that job back not only that , it would have been a PR disaster for the club if we hadn't offered him a role. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Just now, markem said: So you were just ensuring Murty's full quote was represented and you used language like 'it's interesting you left that out' and it's just a coincidence that the very referenced sentence supports your argument about refs? Ok then Dude, ok. For what it's worth I think you are making the mistake of being a Rangers far journo and thinking you need to be seen to be balanced to the point that you're tipping the balance to far the other way. Which is a shame, as we lack genuine any sort of representation in the areas you have established yourself. No, because it was Ryan Jack's quote not Murty's. The very bit that was missed, imo at least, shows that Jack disagreed with the part of the OP that was in bold and directly making reference to the way Murty handled it at the time and his comments. Correct me if I'm wrong here but what you're saying is that we constantly piss and moan about wanting 'balance' - as long as that balance is skewed towards Rangers? Just now, cushynumber said: gerrard and mulholland made the decision that murty stays with the kids? Yes, with Mark Allen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Dangerously 7,562 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 1 hour ago, The Dude said: ‘Rangers supporters were unhappy that Murty didn’t back his player and Jack said: “Everyone obviously has different opinions. “If you sat 10 people, maybe five would say it was a shocking tackle and five would say it wasn’t too bad.’ Yeah maybe if they were five Sellick fans and five Rangers fans. markem and its_an_extender 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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