Ibroxholm 2,291 Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 You just know that the mob from the east end, with the full backing of their friends in the Scottish government, media and football authorities, will extrapolate a safety issue from last night events that they will use to make a case for increasing their allocation for the Old Firm game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyBlue 17,220 Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, LOL153 No Surrender!!! said: See to be truthful, if I put any points across to police scotland in an email about this do you think I would get a reply of why they weren't monitored or escorted and why were they allowed to roam about freely when it is known to most what there fans would have been like. Or would it be stupid as they won't shoulder any of the blame. You shouldn't have to, should have been the first thing the club done this morning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears r us 31,000 Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 I still cannot understand why they (especially with their reputation) were allowed to move without police escort and allowed to attack Rangers fans including bairns. I thought we had a security officer who arranged things with the Glasgow polis for the safety of fans attending our games. When the tarriers come to Ibrox it is sealed off with metal barricades ffs, and yet these wankers were left to do as they please. I would have thought someone from Rangers would have been trying to get our side of the story out because the BBC and the like are running this as a negative story without anyone that I can see challenging what happened. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritchieshearercaldow 22,242 Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 I have respect for any supporters that go to the aid of a Bear in trouble but not those with knives (if it was knives) A knife is the weapon of a coward, even a bottle unless you’re in trouble an outnumbered. From what I saw on here no one was wearing colours mostly guys in black tops and shorts, there must be some Bears on here who could clarify what went on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
murzo 7,449 Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, Bears r us said: I still cannot understand why they (especially with their reputation) were allowed to move without police escort and allowed to attack Rangers fans including bairns. I thought we had a security officer who arranged things with the Glasgow polis for the safety of fans attending our games. When the tarriers come to Ibrox it is sealed off with metal barricades ffs, and yet these wankers were left to do as they please. I would have thought someone from Rangers would have been trying to get our side of the story out because the BBC and the like are running this as a negative story without anyone that I can see challenging what happened. Always plenty of police around Ibrox and surrounding area on match day, even the other side of the motorway , yet a 20 to 30 strong mob can get themselves to Edminston Dr/PRW without being noticed and not a polis in sight. It’s clear to see how this was allowed to happen and it’s not Rangers fans fault. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rum Ham 2,063 Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 20 minutes ago, MattyBlue said: You shouldn't have to, should have been the first thing the club done this morning. Made a cunt of it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rum Ham 2,063 Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, murzo said: Always plenty of police around Ibrox and surrounding area on match day, even the other side of the motorway , yet a 20 to 30 strong mob can get themselves to Edminston Dr/PRW without being noticed and not a polis in sight. It’s clear to see how this was allowed to happen and it’s not Rangers fans fault. Incompetent police who don't know how to handle anything that is not online. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ger_onimo 20,488 Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, GT66 said: I criticise the board for a lot, but they can't just comment on something they probably have zero facts on. He wasn’t saying they should comment, he was saying they should contact the police directly and ask them to explain their strategy last night. Which they should. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianb1547 3,767 Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, GT66 said: I criticise the board for a lot, but they can't just comment on something they probably have zero facts on. surely the Board should make efforts to find out the facts then to enable a robust response...and in a timely manner,not next week when the news is dead Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rum Ham 2,063 Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 Just now, Ger_onimo said: He wasn’t saying they should comment, he was saying they should contact the police directly and ask them to explain their strategy last night. Which they should. Fair enough. Read it wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyBlue 17,220 Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, GT66 said: I criticise the board for a lot, but they can't just comment on something they probably have zero facts on. Except, they do have facts. Facts there was a high risk of this scenario occurring, and they done absolutely nothing to protect Rangers fans nor the general public anywhere across Glasgow all day long. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McEwan's Lager 30,885 Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 5 minutes ago, murzo said: Always plenty of police around Ibrox and surrounding area on match day, even the other side of the motorway , yet a 20 to 30 strong mob can get themselves to Edminston Dr/PRW without being noticed and not a polis in sight. It’s clear to see how this was allowed to happen and it’s not Rangers fans fault. I walked around the ground before the game and mentioned that it was weird how little police were there. I assume they all got called off to the incident. Apart from the cops with the riot vans the only other ones I saw before the game were out the front of the Main Stand ticketing some 40 year old moron in one of those fake Hummel tops holding a can of Dragon Soop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 7 minutes ago, GT66 said: I criticise the board for a lot, but they can't just comment on something they probably have zero facts on. They should be giving the Police both barrels this morning demanding to know why a known hooligan support was allowed to swan up PRW with no Police in sight and also why they were allowed to socialise with the hooligan element of Scum FC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ger_onimo 20,488 Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, GT66 said: Fair enough. Read it wrong. I disgust myself every time I say this, but we need to be more like the taigs with this stuff. Don’t even wait til blame is being apportioned, straight on the offensive. Our fans are the victims of poor policing, that is the issue. They should be answering questions, not us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NixonRFC 1,473 Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 14 minutes ago, ritchieshearercaldow said: I have respect for any supporters that go to the aid of a Bear in trouble but not those with knives (if it was knives) A knife is the weapon of a coward, even a bottle unless you’re in trouble an outnumbered. From what I saw on here no one was wearing colours mostly guys in black tops and shorts, there must be some Bears on here who could clarify what went on. Totally ageee on the subject of a blade, if you carry a blade you're looking for trouble, if you take one to a sporting event you're a fucking cretin who deserves jailed. There's a lot of fault here with the Police etc but theres simply no defending anyone who takes a knife out with them, none. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza27 15,338 Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 20 minutes ago, McEwan's Lager said: I walked around the ground before the game and mentioned that it was weird how little police were there. I assume they all got called off to the incident. Apart from the cops with the riot vans the only other ones I saw before the game were out the front of the Main Stand ticketing some 40 year old moron in one of those fake Hummel tops holding a can of Dragon Soop. @Scottywellhousetb Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle 53,879 Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 27 minutes ago, MattyBlue said: Except, they do have facts. Facts there was a high risk of this scenario occurring, and they done absolutely nothing to protect Rangers fans nor the general public anywhere across Glasgow all day long. The SLO should have been liaising with police in advance of the game give the Croats history of looking for trouble Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDIGNITY 33,723 Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 58 minutes ago, KingKirk said: Apparently it all started after they stamped on a bear's head. If that's true then credit for backing up our own I'd say Left him unconscious and a bit of a mess apparently allegedly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC Eagle 4,888 Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Sparkle said: The SLO should have been liaising with police in advance of the game give the Croats history of looking for trouble The Police should have been co-ordinating with their football intelligence colleagues and with the Club Head of Security. It really has nothing to do with the SLO at that stage, other than to communicate arrangements. It wouldn't take long to find evidence of their previous behaviour. This is a massive failure by Police Scotland and they shouldn't get carte blanche to smear Rangers fans after their incompetence. There is something not sitting right that this was allowed to happen. If its not incompetence then its something more sinister. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottywellhousetb 50,837 Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 12 minutes ago, gazza27 said: @Scottywellhousetb I am definitely a moron but dragon soop and fake football tops are for the utter dregs of society, I actually feel a bit dirty just being linked to such carry on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FSM 20,892 Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 1 hour ago, LOL153 No Surrender!!! said: See to be truthful, if I put any points across to police scotland in an email about this do you think I would get a reply of why they weren't monitored or escorted and why were they allowed to roam about freely when it is known to most what there fans would have been like. Or would it be stupid as they won't shoulder any of the blame. in all seriousness though, given that they were a relatively small group then how do you find them in the first place to track them? Send the police round all the pubs looking for Croats? Different scenario if you had hundreds or thousands of fans all in a fanzone in George Square who are easily identified and can be shepherded, but not just a few dozen who may well just blend in with everyone else. Were they even wearing colours? This is where someone tells me they were all congregated in George Square singing the Croatian national anthem in full Osijek kits Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 83,944 Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Goosetav said: Good news. That's my genuine feeling towards it aswell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
big blue Fin 3,724 Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 2 hours ago, Helicopter Sundae said: Would not be surprised if the Polis came out and blamed Rangers fans for blocking their vans who were trying to rush to the scene of the disturbance. Well, it's their fault if our fans can't get out of the way of imaginary vans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 66,596 Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 5 minutes ago, Scottywellhousetb said: I am definitely a moron but dragon soop and fake football tops are for the utter dregs of society, I actually feel a bit dirty just being linked to such carry on. Blasphemy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluekev 44,667 Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 19 minutes ago, Sparkle said: The SLO should have been liaising with police in advance of the game give the Croats history of looking for trouble He was too busy sorting out his das RSC tickets for Sunday Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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