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1 hour ago, MrMckee said:

Can we please go back to this CB pairing when goldson is fit (hopefully weekend). Worral has made too many errors and McCauley hasnt got the pace anymore. Really don't know what it's gonna take to get back to when we looked the most solid at the start of the season! 

McAuley was at West Brom in his prime , been average his full career 

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Katic did well when he'd a run of games. Then, after he'd been dropped for no apparent reason, his form in the odd adhoc game here and there has been poor.

Worrall has had plenty opportunity now and isn't cutting it. Can clearly play as demonstrated in several games, but has also shown theres mistakes in him and he's not reliable. He's erratic.

After last night Gerrard simply can't play Worrall etc the weekend. If he does it shows there's no consequences for failing so miserably. He just can't go down that route.

In the long run this season will be beneficial for one of them, and it's not the permanent Rangers one.

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Worrall is the best defender at the club when he’s on it, but the personification of dropped points when he’s not. He’s only ever on it for the big games though. MacAuley was a stop gap for this season. Katic couldn’t handle being rotated when he was on form and is like a beaten dog now. McCrorie will be best at CDM for at least five years. 

I’d be looking in the European markets for a first choice, quality partner for Goldson in the summer. 

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15 minutes ago, j1mgg said:

I would prefer the Katic Goldson partnership, but they have allade howling mistakes, probably not helped by having a different pattern to play with each time they start.

Chopping and changing the back line hasn't helped us at all

You need a set partnership IMO to challange for a league. Only changing when absoulelty needed. 

Katic and Goldson worked as they got a run to develop and complemented each other.

I'd like to see them back in and giving a run of games. 

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28 minutes ago, BlueKnight87 said:

Chopping and changing the back line hasn't helped us at all

You need a set partnership IMO to challange for a league. Only changing when absoulelty needed. 

Katic and Goldson worked as they got a run to develop and complemented each other.

I'd like to see them back in and giving a run of games. 

This.

Worrall is here on loan with no prospect of signing permitantly, not a priority starter.

McAuley is not going to be here next season, not a priority starter.

Both as backup for injuries, fine. But both shouldn't be starting if Goldson and Katic are fit.

Also add Jack isn't a holding midfielder so shouldn't be used as one. That's McCrories position, and was very disappointed Gerrard didn't let him keep his spot and it showed last night. Zero cover in a counter attack for the Jones goal.

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1 minute ago, esquire8 said:

This.

Worrall is here on loan with no prospect of signing permitantly, not a priority starter.

McAuley is not going to be here next season, not a priority starter.

Both as backup for injuries, fine. But both shouldn't be starting if Goldson and Katic are fit.

Also add Jack isn't a holding midfielder so shouldn't be used as one. That's McCrories position, and was very disappointed Gerrard didn't let him keep his spot and it showed last night. Zero cover in a counter attack for the Jones goal.

Yep, Katic and Goldson are far from perfect but unless we're signing anyone else at CB we should be going with two younger players that we actually own unless the alternatives are clearly better 

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2 hours ago, Inigo said:

Katic has been shite for a long time as well. 

But he’s our bombscare (nowhere near as bad as Worral) and we can improve him for our future. 

Instead of playing a Nottingham Forest bombscare that will go back at the end of the season. 

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Katic aint the answer lets be honest and come the summer the Defence needs rebuilt again Gareth McAuley,Joe Worrall will both be gone and its time we got our shit together and got Goldson a proper partner.

Goldson aint been great either but I dont think the constant change has helped him

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1 hour ago, lee-irvine said:

Don't really rate Katic, think he gets dragged out of position far to easy and he isn't exactly great on the ball either. What last night showed was Goldson's value to the team as the other 3 options have all got a howler in them.

So the fuck does Goldson

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I get the keeping things within the walls of the HTC but if there is an underlying reason why Katic was dropped against Villarreal and has hardly played since after a phenomenal start where we were predicting 7/8 million sell on fee when the day comes for him to move on , the supporters are that baffled by it ,it would probably be best Gerrard cleared it up 

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On 24/01/2019 at 14:51, BigBearButt said:

Difference is katic can score at the other end too. He seems to be the only cb we have who is a constant threat at set pieces 

I had hoped McAuley would have this in his locker as I’m sure he banged a few in from headers for WBA

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On 24/01/2019 at 14:43, SuperLeeMcCulloch said:

the day Gerrard dropped him for the Villareal away game which at the time was our biggest game of the season was the day his confidence was shot to pieces

If his family matter is true then is it not possible that he was left out because he’d got the bad news just before or on the day of the Villarreal game?

Would seem to explain a lot, and the manager didn’t feel it necessary to expose what was going on in the boy’s private life.

Would certainly make what happened then, and since, less baffling.

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