islanderbear84 611 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 1 minute ago, beararse said: if there is a suggestion that there is a mafia like paymaster lurking in the background then yep, in all probability it's unlikely to be the case, even more so than the corruption itself. 😂😂😂😂😂 Never a Rangers fan! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCutch 4,340 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 Not read the whole thread, so apologies if it's already been mentioned. The linesman at the Stevenson/Alfie incident must have thought the wee man was going to pull a knife from his shorts the way he charged onto the field to block him off. Only when Morelos has been fouled do linesmen in particular (aswell as refs) charge in like that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
16BlueSherbert90 19,223 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 21 hours ago, saltire266 said: Did he not leave this forum a few years ago? Possibly, but @D'Artagnan still comes on now and then to remind us he's still about:) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunk and disorderly. 14,462 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 He is a fucking disgrace and should be sacked. Cunt is stealing a wage and refs like him suck any sense of fair play out of the game. How his bosses can watch that shocking performances and give him pass marks defies logic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 7 hours ago, beararse said: Notwithstanding widespread corruption was been endemic through Italy’s’ modern history, the law of probabilities suggests there is no conspiracy in Scotland. If it is ever proved to be the case, I’ll hold my hands up and admit got it wrong but until then I’ll work on the principle that the refs are just shite. Nothing so dirty or so obvious as money changing hands or all the refs sitting in a darkened room discussing how to fuck us. However one club will gain and did gain financial advantage in their attempts to influence What is simply happening is the hierarchy engendering a culture of bias against us. Carried out very subtley through chinese whispers and chinese walls. Likewise in any business that is autocratic in nature, you either go with the narrative of the leadership or you are out the door. Being good at your job is not a prime mover to thrive in these organisations, but to go with the narrative and not rocking the boat is everything. The mold was set in 2012 when Liewell took full control in his influence over the sfa and his grip has tightened ever since. It would be rather career threatening in such an environment to show any blue sided inclinations in this case. The dominant culture may become so all pervading, that an individual not borne of the narrative (the *eltic minded!) go against their own principles and their values change, in being easier to become one of the pack and thrive or forever remain be the an outsider and die in career terms, hence we witness the consequences of such a culture in the double standards on the field of play. Joy and easy life for the *eltic minded, as they can go freely about their business of wounding us and be rewarded it for it both professionally and personally. A job made in heaven and get paid for the privilege. For the, others it is simply a means of survival to go with the flow and reap hollow rewards. To survive in these environments, many will simply sacrifice their long held principles to just to fit in and put bread on the table. It is simply an exploitation of human nature. So no money changing hands or large meetings in darkened rooms hatching grand plots to do us down. This is the domain for the chosen few at the top of the pile and to have their agenda quietly and subtely permeate through each layer of the organisation like a cancer. Liewell has indeed done his job well, adopting strategies straight from the Jesuit handbook, to infiltrate, influence and mortally wound your enemy to their death. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 Excerts from the Jesuit oath. I don't know why I am getting the mpression we are not liked...... "Superior: My son, heretofore you have been taught to act the dissembler: among Roman Catholics to be a Roman Catholic, and to be a spy even among your own brethren; to believe no man, to trust no man. Among the Reformers, to be a reformer; among the Huguenots, to be a Huguenot; among the Calvinists, to be a Calvinist; among other Protestants, generally to be a Protestant, and obtaining their confidence, to seek even to preach from their pulpits, and to denounce with all the vehemence in your nature our Holy Religion and the Pope; and even to descend so low as to become a Jew among Jews, that you might be enabled to gather together all information for the benefit of your Order as a faithful soldier of the Pope." "I do further promise and declare that I will, when opportunity presents, make and wage relentless war, secretly and openly, against all heretics, Protestants and Masons, as I am directed to do, to extirpate them from the face of the whole earth; and that I will spare neither age, sex nor condition, and that will hang, burn, waste, boil, flay, strangle, and bury alive these infamous heretics; rip up the stomachs and wombs of their women, and crush their infants' heads against the walls in order to annihilate their execrable race. That when the same cannot be done openly I will secretly use the poisonous cup, the strangulation cord, the steel of the poniard, or the leaden bullet, regardless of the honour, rank, dignity or authority of the persons, whatever may be their condition in life, either public or private, as I at any time may be directed so to do by any agents of the Pope or Superior of the Brotherhood of the Holy Father of the Society of Jesus. In confirmation of which I hereby dedicate my life, soul, and all corporal powers, and with the dagger which I now receive I will subscribe my name written in my blood in testimony thereof; and should I prove false, or weaken in my determination, may my brethren and fellow soldiers of the militia of the Pope cut off my hands and feet and my throat from ear to ear, my belly be opened and sulphur burned therein with all the punishment that can be inflicted upon me on earth, and my soul shall be tortured by demons in eternal hell forever." In their extremist views, the Society of Jesus were always a source of challenge to the authority of the papacy, so much so that the first Jesuit ever to take the top job was the current Pope Francis, so I await our apocolypse with fear in trepidation. I would also lay charge that Madden et al are Jesuits trying to masquerade as something else, but that inbred behaviour betrays them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
j1mgg 3,766 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 I see that sportscene highlighted the Stevenson jumping all over Morelos incident, and did question why a card wasn't even shown. At least it was highlighted somewhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negri's lovechild 14,061 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 7 minutes ago, j1mgg said: I see that sportscene highlighted the Stevenson jumping all over Morelos incident, and did question why a card wasn't even shown. At least it was highlighted somewhere. Were they wanting Morelos booked for it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quabba 440 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, Negri's lovechild said: Were they wanting Morelos booked for it? wouldn't surprise me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermopylae 15,286 Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 On 6/2/2020 at 18:36, beararse said: this shit happens from time to time....all part and parcel of the beautiful game we all love. Depends how often doesn't it ... if you tossed a coin several times and it kept landing on its end you would assume there is a bias involved Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beararse 6,375 Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 51 minutes ago, Thermopylae said: Depends how often doesn't it ... if you tossed a coin several times and it kept landing on its end you would assume there is a bias involved I suppose. Rather than landing on in its edge (which would be a phenomenon) what if it landed on one side more than the other, say 6 heads vs 1 tail? Would that be just one of those things, or would there be a greater force at play? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 So that will be Muir sent to the dregs of the league then after today, see you in 12 months Alan. 👍👍 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermopylae 15,286 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 On 8/2/2020 at 17:09, beararse said: I suppose. Rather than landing on in its edge (which would be a phenomenon) what if it landed on one side more than the other, say 6 heads vs 1 tail? Would that be just one of those things, or would there be a greater force at play? Depends how one sided it was ... 6:1 would be a bit sus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc holliday 1,653 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 Madden is a tim crowd pleaser supreme ..always out to win brownie points with them because they are aware of his background. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tannerall 25,935 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 The refs knew Alfredo is high profile and is easy target, so had the choice to protect or persecute him. They chose the latter knowing they had the majority of Scottish football teams, and more importantly the highly influential cellic heirachy and the SFA on their side. Few, if any would have countered this for fear of being isolated or advised to toe the line by their peers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tannerall 25,935 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 On 06/02/2020 at 23:50, beararse said: Notwithstanding widespread corruption was been endemic through Italy’s’ modern history, the law of probabilities suggests there is no conspiracy in Scotland. If it is ever proved to be the case, I’ll hold my hands up and admit got it wrong but until then I’ll work on the principle that the refs are just shite. The law of probabilities would suggest that our club should not have been targeted for tax related issues with players and the club. There were many, many others doing similar, but HMRC mainly targeted ourselves and I think Arsenal (who paid off a relatively small amount). Our club was targeted by HMRC suggesting your law of probability understanding probably does not encompass relevant factors in the background if you believe we are being fairly treated. And most of the statistical evidence of offences issued against our club, compared to a lack of similar against actions by other teams ,suggests there is a very noticeable bias in Scottish football which affects the random element you imagine encompasses your probability theory. Basically your random probability issue is totally warped by external influence by the known factor the SFA and referee bias. Or in even more basic words, stop randomising and get real. It happened. We know this, Clancy and Madden know this, and the rest of Scottish football know this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beararse 6,375 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 54 minutes ago, tannerall said: There were many, many others doing similar, but HMRC mainly targeted ourselves and I think Arsenal Genuine question. Who were the others? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Hedgehog 10,673 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 12 minutes ago, beararse said: Genuine question. Who were the others? There was 39 other clubs looked at. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 On 07/02/2020 at 00:05, islanderbear84 said: 😂😂😂😂😂 Never a Rangers fan! Absolutely never 👍 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 This nugget has taken over from Dude .As the guy winding up all the good bears It’s uncanny how similar they are Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beararse 6,375 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 17 minutes ago, Dave Hedgehog said: There was 39 other clubs looked at. I wasn’t aware there was that many Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Hedgehog 10,673 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 Just now, beararse said: I wasn’t aware there was that many Over 100 individual players and 13 agents looked at too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclovin9091 1,388 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 On 10/02/2020 at 17:04, tannerall said: The law of probabilities would suggest that our club should not have been targeted for tax related issues with players and the club. There were many, many others doing similar, but HMRC mainly targeted ourselves and I think Arsenal (who paid off a relatively small amount). Our club was targeted by HMRC suggesting your law of probability understanding probably does not encompass relevant factors in the background if you believe we are being fairly treated. And most of the statistical evidence of offences issued against our club, compared to a lack of similar against actions by other teams ,suggests there is a very noticeable bias in Scottish football which affects the random element you imagine encompasses your probability theory. Basically your random probability issue is totally warped by external influence by the known factor the SFA and referee bias. Or in even more basic words, stop randomising and get real. It happened. We know this, Clancy and Madden know this, and the rest of Scottish football know this. I still believe we were treated due to being one of the biggest targets for them but as we are in Scotland much less financial able than those in England. Had they clearly won against us, I expected them to then go after the English teams using us as precedence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tannerall 25,935 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 21 hours ago, mclovin9091 said: I still believe we were treated due to being one of the biggest targets for them but as we are in Scotland much less financial able than those in England. Had they clearly won against us, I expected them to then go after the English teams using us as precedence. Us and Arsenal were of course big targets. And at the time Gary Barlow of Take That was also targeted for similar "tax evasion" issues and received a lot of negativity in the National Press, so your theory would seem valid on as much that they went for the big guns. Question remains how much more background pressure was put on us by other "interested parties". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shotstopper 765 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 2 hours ago, tannerall said: Us and Arsenal were of course big targets. And at the time Gary Barlow of Take That was also targeted for similar "tax evasion" issues and received a lot of negativity in the National Press, so your theory would seem valid on as much that they went for the big guns. Question remains how much more background pressure was put on us by other "interested parties". Dr John Reid by any chance? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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