stu43rigger 327 Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 If it takes an 11-1 vote for league reconstruction to take place then why don’t 2 current SPFL teams contact Dundee and advise them that they would vote against any reconstruction proposal, that would render any positive discussions that Dundee and the SPFL have had over the weekend completely pointless Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritchieshearercaldow 22,393 Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 26 minutes ago, Redemption80 said: A fairer proposal would be league incomplete and prize money distributed evenly among all teams. The only problem is with no champion declared that means no champions league next season. So if the rest of Europe declare a champion and we don't, does that mean Scottish football sits out European football next year? Reconstruction will also fail unless they change the rules regarding how many teams it needs for it to pass and/or the prizemoney is increased (very unlikely) as who is going to vote to split their share with more clubs? They don’t need to be champions to be in the CL, SPFL just put the top club forward . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tannerall 25,935 Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 Stitched up by Peter Fucking Lawell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tero Penttila 425 Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 Shielding Paedophiles For Lawwell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcbear 10,932 Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, Colin Traive said: SPFL Dirty Fenian Surrender Monkeys Sorry, not very good at this. That's great Colin you managed these four words without a P or an L Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersMedia 35,962 Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 There is absolutely no way they are going to pass a vote for a 16 team league I'm sure we are opposed to it, celtic are too (though might vote for it if they get a title out of it now) and all the other diddy clubs like Livi, Motherwell etc are opposed to it because they will lose money and have absolutely no reason to vote for it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryMc 2,409 Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 8 minutes ago, stu43rigger said: If it takes an 11-1 vote for league reconstruction to take place then why don’t 2 current SPFL teams contact Dundee and advise them that they would vote against any reconstruction proposal, that would render any positive discussions that Dundee and the SPFL have had over the weekend completely pointless I'm guessing it's because they are probably going to change the 11-1 rule to force it through. Corrupt so they'll figure out a way to do it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
35 Yard Dangerman 3,580 Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 21 minutes ago, pcbear said: SPFL Shady Pape Fucking Liars. Whats yours? Sweaty Pig Fucker Lawell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle 54,602 Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 Just at a glance at the carefully orchestrated headlines today - are Dundee being flung under the bus by their erstwhile suitors? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryMc 2,409 Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 SPFL Serve Peter Fucking Lawell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetheart 8,458 Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 13 minutes ago, the cry was no said: Absolutely nothing should be getting discussed with Dundee period. Agreed. It a distraction from the main issue. They should be talking about how they are to release the smaller clubs their money before those clubs hit the wall. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsden bear 2,376 Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 6 minutes ago, NeoGeo7 said: It's a great diversionary tactic, now people are talking about what the structure could be just glossing over the fact that any structure changes need to be discussed with the relevant parties (not SPFL select committee and Dundee), agreed and then 2 years notice period......or are SPFL just going to bend the rules so that they can pass the resolution and give the title to the scum. All the while clubs are suffering, so why not dish out the money now, call as null and void and 2020/21 starts as 2019/20 started Maybe a daft suggestion but here goes How about cancelling the season?. No winners, relegations, promototions etc. But, bolt this seasons remaining games onto next season? This allows teams to carry healthy lead theyve built like dundee utd into next season. It means this seasons results arent lost. It also gives teams in relegation zone a fair chance to escape too. Just means an extra 8/9 games to next season. Would maybe need to scrub cups etc (depending on start date) to fit in the games?Also think club euro football wont happen as international travel will be prohibited till end of year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 87,359 Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, Bearsden bear said: Maybe a daft suggestion but here goes How about cancelling the season?. No winners, relegations, promototions etc. But, bolt this seasons remaining games onto next season? This allows teams to carry healthy lead theyve built like dundee utd into next season. It means this seasons results arent lost. It also gives teams in relegation zone a fair chance to escape too. Just means an extra 8/9 games to next season. Would maybe need to scrub cups etc (depending on start date) to fit in the games?Also think club euro football wont happen as international travel will be prohibited till end of year. Nobody is sure of when next season can even start with talk of the amount of games being reduced and here's you extending the length of it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hume 13,873 Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 Raith Rovers ...... wanting to fight anybody ...... only in a pandemic with strict distance restrictions could that mouthful of cock be true ...... 🇬🇧 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 33,338 Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 I hope we're adhering to social distancing rules better than the club's request for no abuse of the SPFL etc. Didn't last very long. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornabear 6,269 Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 27 minutes ago, Sweetheart said: It's all getting really farcical and totally missing the point that smaller clubs need their money now. I can't see why the smaller clubs can't release a statement today saying they were of the opinion that funds could not be released unless the SPFL proposal was successful and having found that to be untrue they wish to have their money advanced now. The smaller clubs have more power than Dundee to end money issues today, everything else can be debated later. Question is will they have the courage to ask for what's theirs? Your first sentence says it all SH. Folk are dying all over the world, but the spfl ( in their little bubble) are withholding vital money which will kill off the smaller clubs in Scotland. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 32,497 Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 Reconstruction is a waste of everyone's time as it never gets the vote required. They are merely stalling now, in hopes to put the cheating voting process behind them. Sorry, but this is not going away. Rangers haven't even begun. Democracy no longer exists in Scotland. We all know Dundee voted NO before 5pm and we all know Salmond is sex offender. Scots law, once revered, now a laughing stock. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trooblue 2,018 Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 50 minutes ago, tannerall said: League reconstruction is quite simply being used as a cover, and smokescreen for the initial fuck up. It wasn't high on the agenda a few weeks ago. The SPFL will try and run any reconstruction through now as an all new squeakily clean product, try and ignore the real issues, and present it as being in everyone's real interest. I know it's tempting for posters on here to highlight league reconstruction , even coming up with their own proposals, but basically we'd all do well to just continue calling out the current (and historical) corruption and probable illegality for what it is and concentrating on the shady deals that have been the 2nd biggest issue in the running of Scottish football since the beginning of the 21st century. The biggest issue of course being the child abuse allegations which have also still not been properly or competently investigated. Absolutely right. They are using reconstruction the same way they are using the cash. - carrots to get the vote they want. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDIGNITY 34,086 Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 1 minute ago, Bobby Hume said: Raith Rovers ...... wanting to fight anybody ...... only in a pandemic with strict distance restrictions could that mouthful of cock be true ...... 🇬🇧 They'll be dancing in the streets of Raith tonight ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetheart 8,458 Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 Reconstruction issue a ‘red herring’ says Tatters Elgin City chairman Graham Tatters believes the issue of league reconstruction should not be driving talks to end the lower league season. Dundee, who have still to cast their vote on the SPFL’s proposal to call the Championship, League 1 and League 2 season, yesterday revealed reconstruction talks were at the “forefront” of discussions held in recent days. Tatters feels reconstruction should be treated as a separate issue until consensus is found on the initial proposal, which the Borough Briggs outfit supported. Tatters said: “I think reconstruction is a knee-jerk reaction to what is happening. “We have discussed it as a board of directors, because it came up. We feel at this moment in time it’s not a subject to be discussed. “There’s a possibility some teams might not be able to survive this, so we need to get some consolidation and stability in the set up. “ They are two mutually exclusive items and one needs to be dealt with, so we know what we are doing next season, without bringing in league reconstruction which is a complete and utter minefield. “If we want to go for reconstruction after that we will get round the table and discuss it, but at the moment we just see it as a red herring to everything. “The people that want it are the people suffering from the resolution. “It’s not a thing that could be glossed over in a couple of weeks, I think it would take a while to sort it out.” Tatters hinted he would have concerns over any potential expansion to the SPFL set up, adding: “Every time it is mentioned people are flying in on social media about what the ideas should be and how you should do it. “ The last thing we want to lose is any home games, and we don’t particularly want to have the leagues made bigger when you’ve got more than 42 clubs, as that dilutes the revenue. “We are quite concerned about it if it happens.” Tatters says the Black and Whites, who are third in League 2 at present, stand by their vote in favour of the SPFL proposal. He added: “We voted for it because there was no way there was going to be play-offs. Once they were cancelled there was no point in having a battle for the sake of it.” https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/sport/football/elgin-fc/2145196/reconstruction-issue-a-red-herring-says-tatters/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris182 6,531 Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 19 minutes ago, psb07158 said: There is absolutely no way they are going to pass a vote for a 16 team league I'm sure we are opposed to it, celtic are too (though might vote for it if they get a title out of it now) and all the other diddy clubs like Livi, Motherwell etc are opposed to it because they will lose money and have absolutely no reason to vote for it Agreed. Most teams will only see two old firm gates a season. Why would they vote for that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 45,272 Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 15 minutes ago, Sparkle said: Just at a glance at the carefully orchestrated headlines today - are Dundee being flung under the bus by their erstwhile suitors? I did say the day before yesterday that the would be. SPFL get out clause. It wasn't us, it was them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malvern 11,329 Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 1 hour ago, NeoGeo7 said: The thing is if you lie then there is a chance you fuck up and contradict yourself and I think that's what we'll see here. This is why it started as "We didn't get the vote" then it became clear that this could easily be disproved so it changed to "We got it later on that evening, it was blocked by firewall", ok so if you got it then count it as a valid vote , then we get "Ah well, Mr Nelms said to disregard the vote" SPFL should be removed from their offices and access to their network, laptops, PCs etc. until an independent investigation can be conducted. They simply cannot be trusted. Hillary Clinton secret server, you're not getting shit from them and the police are too busy chasing people out of parks to give a fuck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tannerall 25,935 Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 I expect this to be a 3,000 pager. Let's hope by page 2,000 the SPFL have actually begun an investigation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Robot 21,513 Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 32 minutes ago, stu43rigger said: If it takes an 11-1 vote for league reconstruction to take place then why don’t 2 current SPFL teams contact Dundee and advise them that they would vote against any reconstruction proposal, that would render any positive discussions that Dundee and the SPFL have had over the weekend completely pointless but how many does it take to pass a resolution on changing the reconstruction votes and timescales. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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