MillerTimeDavie 123 Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 Absolutely shameless. Justice my arse. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bluekev 47,036 Posted September 19, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted September 19, 2023 KICK THEM OUT Hadron Collider, scottyscott1963, Bears r us and 3 others 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekJohnstone 1,210 Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 7 minutes ago, Marco said: Think the lawyers representing the victims are looking at £1.75M per victim. 28 victims so far. Somewhere in the middle then 👍 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco 1,776 Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 4 minutes ago, Bad Robot said: Where you getting that from as I’m thinking 1.75 between them Website for the lawyers representing the victims. Granted, they list 1.75M per victim as the upper limit. https://www.thompsons-scotland.co.uk/abuse-claims/abuse-claim-case-studies Bad Robot 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritchieshearercaldow 22,389 Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, Bad Robot said: Where you getting that from as I’m thinking 1.75 between them There’s several precedents running into millions per victim I believe Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueThunder 8,636 Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 9 minutes ago, Marco said: Think the lawyers representing the victims are looking at £1.75M per victim. 28 victims so far. They will offer something a sizeable distance off that but possibly tempting enough for people to bite. I’m very annoyed they have had the luxury of time to try and position themselves to deal with this (and still don’t admit guilt) whereas we were not afforded the same luxury. ritchieshearercaldow 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueThunder 8,636 Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 4 minutes ago, cr3_bear said: For me I don’t think the 10,000 seats makes as big a difference in the time frame you are mentioning. It’s something I would like to see us do at some point but I don’t think it’s what has resulted in them landing titles and trebles etc . Years of mismanagement and neglect from Murray which happened to align with them getting their house in order after spending most of the 90s as a basket case is the reason they have enjoyed consistent success since the turn of the millennium It may not be the whole difference but it does give them a head start every year, if everything else was equal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKingObv 10,860 Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, ritchieshearercaldow said: There’s several precedents running into millions per victim I believe Which ones are these? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillerTimeDavie 123 Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 Terrible how Billy McNeil, Lou Macari etc were not held to account for knowing and doing nothing, think a cover up in this industrial scale could only happen in Sotland to protect the 'club for all'. Straight-Edge-Loyal 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Robot 21,513 Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 1 minute ago, ritchieshearercaldow said: There’s several precedents running into millions per victim I believe Maybe so but they’ll pay out around 2 - 5 which will have no material affect on their finances. I’d love to see proper justice like 20 - 30 but that’s just hopefull thinking. The victims will be no doubt left to think about this and will have to come to an agreement amongst themselves. I hope they all have some pact where if when one refuses, it means they all refuse. I hope the victims take them to the courts and get the sordid deeds and subsequent cover ups all down in court records. This may also increase the compensation for all involved. scottyscott1963 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KingKirk 26,466 Posted September 19, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted September 19, 2023 The ball is with the survivors here they got this far now what are they looking for. Acknowledgement of the abuse they where put through and accepting liability then we will be going to court. Or life changing money that can see them live a happy comfortable live from now onwards. Whatever the choice they should not be judged as they are the victims in these disgusting crimes. graeme_4, plymouthranger, Straight-Edge-Loyal and 3 others 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritchieshearercaldow 22,389 Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 Just now, TheKingObv said: Which ones are these? Prince Andrew and all the other wealthy peados and groomers who deny guilt but pay up anyway J-Maestro 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cr3_bear 15,531 Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 8 minutes ago, BlueThunder said: It may not be the whole difference but it does give them a head start every year, if everything else was equal. Reality is though not everything else has really been equal with us for possibly 30 years or more now . The 90s we were at strength while they were in meltdown , the 00’s things appeared more even but in reality Murray’s bullshit was coming home to roost and really starting to hinder us as a club and the 2010’s need no explanation for leading us to where we are right now Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Robot 21,513 Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 1 minute ago, KingKirk said: The ball is with the survivors here they got this far now what are they looking for. Acknowledgement of the abuse they where put through and accepting liability then we will be going to court. Or life changing money that can see them live a happy comfortable live from now onwards. Whatever the choice they should not be judged as they are the victims in these disgusting crimes. the money might not matter as their life’s were changed with this horror story Straight-Edge-Loyal, graeme_4, scottyscott1963 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 26,466 Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 9 minutes ago, BlueThunder said: They will offer something a sizeable distance off that but possibly tempting enough for people to bite. I’m very annoyed they have had the luxury of time to try and position themselves to deal with this (and still don’t admit guilt) whereas we were not afforded the same luxury. They tried to kill us for exploiting a tax loophole obviously in Scotland that matters more the abusing wains. TEFTONG, scottyscott1963 and Straight-Edge-Loyal 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromDeAnglais 6,740 Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 This is them now attempting to cover up the cover up. Settle out of court but with strict NDAs etc that stop any more discussions or ramifications. It appears they now know they're about to get their arses handed to them and need to stop before it becomes a financial and reputational disaster for them. It's the Prince Andrew approach of paying the victims off now before it becomes a media circus. It's shite but at least the victims will receive some justice - but not enough justice will be thrown at the paedophile ring of a club. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Robot 21,513 Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, PromDeAnglais said: This is them now attempting to cover up the cover up. Settle out of court but with strict NDAs etc that stop any more discussions or ramifications. It appears they now know they're about to get their arses handed to them and need to stop before it becomes a financial and reputational disaster for them. It's the Prince Andrew approach of paying the victims off now before it becomes a media circus. It's shite but at least the victims will receive some justice - but not enough justice will be thrown at the paedophile ring of a club. If they accept… scottyscott1963 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Traive 23,831 Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 7 minutes ago, MillerTimeDavie said: Terrible how Billy McNeil, Lou Macari etc were not held to account for knowing and doing nothing, think a cover up in this industrial scale could only happen in Sotland to protect the 'club for all'. At least six managers - Stein, McNeill, Hay, Macari, Brady, Burns - knew and said fuck all. At half a million each (surely to Christ a destroyed childhood is worth that?) and around 200 victims, that’s potentially £100m. It will also be interesting to see if they are demonised and ostracised as Prince Andrew was because the scale of their crimes makes Andrew look like Atticus Finch. Straight-Edge-Loyal and scottyscott1963 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Robot 21,513 Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 16 minutes ago, Marco said: Website for the lawyers representing the victims. Granted, they list 1.75M per victim as the upper limit. https://www.thompsons-scotland.co.uk/abuse-claims/abuse-claim-case-studies Do you honestly think any settlement will come even close to that ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitre_mouldmaster 21,511 Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 I take it the lawyers will be entitled to a % of the settlement. They won't have some form of leverage to force the victims to settle for the highest cash value over a smaller settlement with liability attached? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Hobbs 2,912 Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 23 minutes ago, Bad Robot said: Where you getting that from as I’m thinking 1.75 between them There's no way the lawyers will be looking for as little as that. They'll ask for a huge amount and settle on less. Bad Robot 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Robot 21,513 Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 Just now, Colin Traive said: At least six managers - Stein, McNeill, Hay, Macari, Brady, Burns - knew and said fuck all. At half a million each (surely to Christ a destroyed childhood is worth that?) and around 200 victims, that’s potentially £100m. It will also be interesting to see if they are demonised and ostracised as Prince Andrew was because the scale of their crimes makes Andrew look like Atticus Finch. We also have the current Russel Brand media storm where this will be in and out the coverage and missed by many outwith Glasgow scottyscott1963 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 25,577 Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 44 minutes ago, The Specky Non Liar - Sometimes said: Their lawyers must have told them it's not looking good for them. Hopefully the yanks take them all the way Straight-Edge-Loyal and scottyscott1963 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco 1,776 Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 1 minute ago, Bad Robot said: Do you honestly think any settlement will come even close to that ? Nah, no chance. Saw the £1.75M figure from others, but having checked their website and seeing figures as low as £40k. Saw someone else saying Man City paid £100k maximum per victim. Bad Robot 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 25,577 Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 11 minutes ago, Bad Robot said: the money might not matter as their life’s were changed with this horror story The victims always claimed it wasnt about the money, so a money offer with no admission of guilt should see them told to get to fuck surely Bad Robot, Straight-Edge-Loyal and scottyscott1963 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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