KeyserSoze 14,713 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 9 minutes ago, graeme_4 said: Everyone in the entire footballing world would have sold Bassey for what we got for him. Brilliant business. A manager selling his best defender is NEVER a good bit of football business That’s my point. Great bit of business, shite football decision. ifs buts and maybees but if he stayed perhaps we would be in a better position regarding the CL and 9 points adrift. ifs buts maybees Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essandoh 21,392 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Jimbeamjunior said: Helicopter sunday season we scored 106 goals in 51 games in all comps, thats pretty decent for a manager told to essentially use bosman buys unless he generated his own transfer money He brought 5 captains in one summer. Name them Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
folkestoneger 8,452 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Just now, Amokachi said: Even Gerrard wouldn’t have stopped their sales. In hindsight we should have sold Alfie and Kent in close season too. We’ll get next to nothing for them now and they haven’t contributed much this season Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 25,040 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Just now, Essandoh said: He brought 5 captains in one summer. Name them Be more specific, captains in one season or in their time at the club? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ForeverAndEver 72,225 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, KeyserSoze said: A manager selling his best defender is NEVER a good bit of football business That’s my point. Great bit of business, shite football decision. ifs buts and maybees but if he stayed perhaps we would be in a better position regarding the CL and 9 points adrift. ifs buts maybees Just as well we kept Goldson then init Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 72,225 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Jimbeamjunior said: Be more specific, captains in one season or in their time at the club? At the teams he bought them from Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangersross 6,579 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 6 minutes ago, ForeverAndEver said: Made a good fight for play offs twice with a team that was regularly finishing closer to relegation than play offs Alright then, I'll amend it to: he failed at Nottingham Forest and did okay at QPR but ultimately lost the club's backing and his job. I still think that indicates the pressure of managing a club like ours wasn't the primary reason why he was unsuccessful here. ForeverAndEver 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 66,625 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, Essandoh said: He brought 5 captains in one summer. Name them Hemdani, Fan-Fan, Rodriguez and Murray are 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze 14,713 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 9 minutes ago, The Specky Liar said: That's not how football works regardless if there's a director of football or not, Bassey and Aribo were sold because it made sense for the club and no manager was stopping that from happening. It made perfect sense from a footballing sense as well. Why is selling your best players a “perfect football ing sense”? Business yes. But football? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camshy 812 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 He had to go its that simple, Europa run aside his management of the team simply not good enough pretty much from the get go. Next man in will be interesting and I believe whoever it is already knows they have the job.....can't see the board getting rid of him unless they had someone ear marked. bornabear 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.E.C. 19,113 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Just now, The Specky Liar said: Hemdani, Fan-Fan, Rodriguez and Murray are 4 Kyrgiakos? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negri's lovechild 14,586 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 24 minutes ago, ronniescu said: Mainly thanks to Namouchi pulling all the strings in midfield Big Eck obviously saw some potential in Hamed that nobody else could see 🤣. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essandoh 21,392 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said: Be more specific, captains in one season or in their time at the club? Aye what ForeverAndEver said They were all captains at their former teams. @The Specky Liar has named four Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 72,225 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 1 minute ago, G.E.C. said: Kyrgiakos? He was the previous winter Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essandoh 21,392 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 1 minute ago, G.E.C. said: Kyrgiakos? I think he came in a January window? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyal72 12,330 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, bluenoz said: If I was a candidate, the first question I ask is how much money and say do I have for January transfers? It's great that Gio is gone, but this team needs a major overhaul or at least a change in direction with many players. That'd be your first question? Not actually who has control over signings and why you need to work with Ross Wilson? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 66,625 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, KeyserSoze said: Why is selling your best players a “perfect football ing sense”? Business yes. But football? Because with the money we brought in we should have been able to improve the overall quality of the squad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornabear 6,222 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, Camshy said: He had to go its that simple, Europa run aside his management of the team simply not good enough pretty much from the get go. Next man in will be interesting and I believe whoever it is already knows they have the job.....can't see the board getting rid of him unless they had someone ear marked. Exactly what I was thinking, the next one will be announced soon, to be in place when the players return. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.E.C. 19,113 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Essandoh said: I think he came in a January window? He came on loan at the time. Signed pretty last minute in the summer. Essandoh 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negri's lovechild 14,586 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 14 minutes ago, mitre_mouldmaster said: Warburton gets a bad rap for the way he left, which I still don't fully understand to be honest. With a proper budget, I actually think he could have done well. He had an admirable football philosophy, but was far too one-dimensional and was found out eventually. We did play some cracking football at times under him, particularly in the championship and he did unearth a few gems. Even with a better budget, that wouldnt have covered up his failings tactically. plymouthranger and rangersross 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 31,313 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, Loyal72 said: That'd be your first question? Not actually who has control over signings and why you need to work with Ross Wilson? I did mention that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cr3_bear 15,064 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 20 minutes ago, graeme_4 said: Probably a bit controversial, but Walter should have had us playing better and achieving more with the resources he had. Achieve more in what way ? Surely that can only apply to Europe. domestically he lost two titles out of 12 that was available to him during his times managing us shaka, SPWF, The Specky Forum Organiser and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangersross 6,579 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, Negri's lovechild said: He had an admirable football philosophy, but was far too one-dimensional and was found out eventually. We did play some cracking football at times under him, particularly in the championship and he did unearth a few gems. Even with a better budget, that wouldnt have covered up his failings tactically. With a tactically adept manager at the helm, I think we can make Postecoglou's setup look like Warburton's - i.e., occasionally very pleasing on the eye but vulnerable to pressure and too rigid to adapt once it's been unlocked. Negri's lovechild, shaka, plymouthranger and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iakona 2,284 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 9 minutes ago, KeyserSoze said: one of their biggest roles is around making business decisions on selling and buying - no manager would allow Bassey or Aribo to leave the way they did because it didn’t make football sense Managers haven’t had that power for a long time… regardless of a DoF being employed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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