The Dude 20,027 Posted November 22, 2022 Author Share Posted November 22, 2022 Just now, Colin Traive said: The fact that you can’t tell the difference says it all. Direct = person to person = him to you = not the whole world, just direct to you Poor show and will only result in even more doors closing for you. Dear, dear So like a telephone call or a text message or an email? Are you suggesting any quotes etc from any of those shouldn't be used? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 69,534 Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 33 minutes ago, mitre_mouldmaster said: He is a known Journo. He is lucky it's not going into an article, if it indeed is not. If he is still employed by Rangers, then he should be looking at fucking disciplinary action for being so stupid as to actually DM a journo in the first place if he didn't get consent. It's literally how journos get stories. The only thing you can really have a dig at @the dude for is that he put it on here for people to see rather than sticking it in an article and getting paid for it. Known journo 🤣 He has 2.6k followers and works in the media team at a team called Dunipace how the fuck is Bowley many to know he's a 'journalist' RM Monitor And Standards Officer 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Colin Traive 23,835 Posted November 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, The Dude said: So like a telephone call or a text message or an email? Are you suggesting any quotes etc from any of those shouldn't be used? Fuck sake, you’re just making the hole bigger, man Twitter or Facebook posts are for general consumption whereas point to point, direct communication such as DMs, emails, texts are clearly intended for a single recipient. Not rocket science. You know this, you’ve fucked up and now you’re floundering by suggesting that we should all end our emails and texts with “please note that the contents of this communication are for your eyes only” if we don’t want some arsehole sharing them with the world. Drunk and disorderly., graeme_4, DiamondDan and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,027 Posted November 22, 2022 Author Share Posted November 22, 2022 Just now, Colin Traive said: Fuck sake, you’re just making the hole bigger, man Twitter or Facebook posts are for general consumption whereas point to point, direct communication such as DMs, emails, texts are clearly intended for a single recipient. Not rocket science. You know this, you’ve fucked up and now you’re floundering by suggesting that we should all end our emails and texts with “please note that the contents of this communication are for your eyes only” if we don’t want some arsehole sharing them with the world. So you're saying emails, texts, phone calls shouldn't be used? Haven't once suggested you need to end emails with that however if you're emailing/DMing/txting a journo, then it's probably a safe bet to put it at the end. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,027 Posted November 22, 2022 Author Share Posted November 22, 2022 1 minute ago, tm91 said: In fairness, I'd have absolutely no clue from @The Dude's twitter that he was a journalist. His bio is 'write about things' which could mean anything. I only know who he is because I post on here. The Dude seems like a good poster, but if you're going to be a journalist properly advertise that on your twitter. You can't then go and use the 'well what did he expect, I'm a journo' when there's entirely reasonable he wouldn't have known that and thought he was messaging a random member of the public (which is still fucking dumb, but all the same). That's his fuck-up, not mine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.E.C. 19,594 Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 Imagine he sent his knob. AGM_72, DiamondDan, smartypants and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,027 Posted November 22, 2022 Author Share Posted November 22, 2022 Just now, tm91 said: But I would think you do have some level of responsibility as a journalist in how you handle these conversations, especially if you have reason to suspect that he doesn't know you're a journalist. He presumably wouldn't have reached out to you had he known. As it is, you've risking potentially upsetting a member of the Rangers staff, and that getting to other people at the club - so even just from a selfish or pragmatic perspective as a journalist, it doesn't seem like a good idea for you to do this. Had I initiated the conversation with him then I agree, there's more of an onus on me to make sure it's clear that it may be published. As he came to me, then it's on him to make sure a) who it is he's actually sending messages to b) whether that's liable to end up in the public domain. It would take literally seconds for someone to find out I'm a journalist - type my 'James Black Rangers' into google and tell me what happens. The fact there's also a verified tick on my Twitter profile (and not a paid-for Twitter Blue one) and a link directly to a website containing stories written by me and with my name on them, then there's everything there for him to have figured out I'm a journo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BlueSuedeSambas 56,383 Posted November 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 22, 2022 shandy, Drunk and disorderly., ForeverAndEver and 4 others 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KingKirk 26,480 Posted November 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 22, 2022 55 minutes ago, The Dude said: Had I initiated the conversation with him then I agree, there's more of an onus on me to make sure it's clear that it may be published. As he came to me, then it's on him to make sure a) who it is he's actually sending messages to b) whether that's liable to end up in the public domain. It would take literally seconds for someone to find out I'm a journalist - type my 'James Black Rangers' into google and tell me what happens. The fact there's also a verified tick on my Twitter profile (and not a paid-for Twitter Blue one) and a link directly to a website containing stories written by me and with my name on them, then there's everything there for him to have figured out I'm a journo. So u really expect him to put at the bottom of his post to you off the record btw. No like it's in the publics interest to know about this conversation. Your house at Christmas must be a blast everybody shouting off the record at the end of every conversation. .Williamson., graeme_4, The Specky Forum Organiser and 3 others 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 32,432 Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 Bloggers pretend to mask themselves as journalists these days. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernLights 2,529 Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 I get the point but it isn’t like there was anything remotely interesting in there Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,027 Posted November 22, 2022 Author Share Posted November 22, 2022 4 minutes ago, KingKirk said: So u really expect him to put at the bottom of his post to you off the record btw. No like it's in the publics interest to know about this conversation. Your house at Christmas must be a blast everybody shouting off the record at the end of every conversation. Yes. Plenty others manage to do it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 69,534 Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 Actually howling at some no mark fanny saying that a Rangers first team could ach should have typed in James Black Rangers before trying to have a civil private discussion with it Next level narcissist Drunk and disorderly., born a blue nose, smartypants and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDak 850 Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 7 minutes ago, KingKirk said: Your house at Christmas must be a blast everybody shouting off the record at the end of every conversation. 🤣🤣 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 69,534 Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 4 minutes ago, tm91 said: I take your point, and he's been dim. He shouldn't be sending messages to random people on twitter and he should be careful who he's sending messages to. However, the only thing that properly indicates who you are on Twitter is the blue tick - which, given the current clusterfuck around Twitter, he may have easily confused with the Twitter Blue thing. With all due respect, your website also could easily be confused for any random blog. And I wouldn't expect anyone to routinely google who they are tweeting to - expectations that may be second nature to you as a journalist wouldn't necessarily be as obvious to others. It is a random blog. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellshill_Bear 1,105 Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 Wish folk would just calm the fuck down man. it’s no worth it for any Rangers players or staff to have social media when they aren’t allowed to have an opinion or they get shot down in flames by middle aged fat guys who know as much about football as they do about about self control greetin at what they say. Honestly man, undiluted tarrier behaviour Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KingKirk 26,480 Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, leam_baw said: I did feel at the time it wasn't the brightest thing for beale to do. The Archer, plymouthranger and AGM_72 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Maestro 13,936 Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 Who’d have known if you said ‘off the record’ to a journo it was more airtight than doctor-patient confidentiality. shandy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,027 Posted November 22, 2022 Author Share Posted November 22, 2022 36 minutes ago, The Specky Liar said: Actually howling at some no mark fanny saying that a Rangers first team could ach should have typed in James Black Rangers before trying to have a civil private discussion with it Next level narcissist 😂 that much of a no mark you keep tabs on where I’m writing Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKingObv 10,860 Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 17 minutes ago, leam_baw said: Weren't we all Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post J-Maestro 13,936 Posted November 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 22, 2022 1 minute ago, TheKingObv said: Weren't we all If Beale does get the job it will be absolutely disgusting. Doing worse than Gerrard did to us to QPR. NorthernLights, graeme_4, GA1972 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,027 Posted November 22, 2022 Author Share Posted November 22, 2022 That's some fucking take Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Creampuff 22,630 Posted November 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 22, 2022 Some right attention seeking twats on this forum btw. Desperate to be relevant. McEwan's Lager, J-Maestro, Blue72 and 6 others 9 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionblue 4,121 Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, The Dude said: That's some fucking take "The source" ha ha Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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