Gerrard, Gio, The Board

[ForeverAndEver 72,124]

Just now, ger4life_1872 said:

Fucking spoilers ya fat wank

Cry more x

[aird 3,836]

[Dan Deacon 55,686]

Lemon curd is better than marmalade

[RFC55 110,129]

Just now, Dan Deacon said:

Lemon curd is better than marmalade

have i told you about the cracking mint mayo i do? 

[G.E.C. 19,053]

1 hour ago, BlueSuedeSambas said:

Might as well rename this thread kylegib vs Jimbeamjunior tbh.

Falls count anywhere 

[Dan Deacon 55,686]

3 minutes ago, RFC55 said:

have i told you about the cracking mint mayo i do? 

No mate but I'm intrigued. Might pair well with they Mexican fajeetas

[G.E.C. 19,053]

20 minutes ago, Dan Deacon said:

Anyone seen the lion king

The cartoon or the real one 

[RFC55 110,129]

3 minutes ago, Dan Deacon said:

No mate but I'm intrigued. Might pair well with they Mexican fajeetas

never thought of that mate, they’ll defo go amazing with fajitas 

[Drumloyal 15,103]

Yous are making me fucking hungry.

[Dan Deacon 55,686]

3 minutes ago, Drumloyal said:

Yous are making me fucking hungry.

Same not had breakfast either 

[Drumloyal 15,103]

3 minutes ago, Dan Deacon said:

Same not had breakfast either 

Made a big pot of lentil & ham hock soup last night and fed half the street with it.  I think I'll tan the leftovers for lunch. 

This thread has been very helpful.

[SIRB_72 4,084]

All three factors are to blame. It's time to move on now, we are where we are and it's time to catch up.

 

[Moody Blue 9,515]

Gerrard’s time is up, Hamilton game the last straw for me….no wait….time for GVB to do the honourable thing and leave, it’s eye bleeding stuff, brutal viewing…no wait…….

The board are shite and are costing the clubs millions each year with their inept performance. 

[superallysbears 7,844]

[Loyal72 12,100]

Gerrard is gone. Gio is gone.

This thread wasn't necessary. We have one for aiming at the board already.

[G.E.C. 19,053]

Gerrard suffered an injury to his willy away to Bournemouth.

True story.

[Negri's lovechild 14,417]

15 minutes ago, G.E.C. said:

Gerrard suffered an injury to his willy away to Bournemouth.

True story.

Ooft. 

That's what playing away does to you...

[evenstevens 914]

You are persistent Kyle, and you don't seem to mind that you come across like a total weirdo, and seem oblivious to folk getting fed up with you, so I'll give you that!

Re the topic at hand........

SG

We did stand still, but we didn't have the money.  That wasn't SG's fault, but the way we started the following season was absolutely on him and the players.  My suspicion is that the players knew he was heading out the door and lost that focus they'd had the previous year.  I always think players know and lose that edge.  My worry, when I first saw celtic play under AP was that they'd end up being much, much better than they'd been before so I wanted as much as distance between us and them as we could manage before they got up to speed.  We didn't manage that, and that was poor from SG.  However, we were still ahead and our new manager took over a team well ahead.........

GVB

Under GVB, we were, in the main, absolutely awful.  And that includes during that first 7 games.  I was really worried about us, even at the start, as we looked awful.  The euro run absolutely masked how average we were, and it's a bit simple to say that I think the Ibrox Euro night factor carried us through, without GVB getting credit, but we reached levels in those games we just didn't ever reach under him in any other games.  I'm not impartial when it comes to GVB though, I made up my mind on him very early doors so I'm not sure how balanced I'm being.  Mind you, the Board eventually agreed with what I'd been saying for yonks, and Beale has come in and said the same thing (lacking in identity) so maybe I was right from the outset. 

Board

Won 55 and rested on laurels, without providing funds to take next steps forward.  All successful teams keep investing, keep going forward.  But we clearly didn't have the funds, didn't sell players who were worth anything, and therefore didn't invest.  Team suffered against a backdrop of them investing heavily and getting, let's face it, pretty ruthless domestically. 

[Sparkle 53,823]

[dummiesoot 16,115]

It's back open again folks.

 

For what it is worth, SG would not have taken us to Seville, we would still have collapsed post break. We wouldn't have lost 3-0 to the paedos. GVB destroyed our high tempo pressing evident in Europe last season and destroyed our fitness.

 

[gmcf 34,623]

1 hour ago, dummiesoot said:

It's back open again folks.

 

For what it is worth, SG would not have taken us to Seville, we would still have collapsed post break. We wouldn't have lost 3-0 to the paedos. GVB destroyed our high tempo pressing evident in Europe last season and destroyed our fitness.

 

I think he'd have won the league because I don't think he'd allowed us to be bossed about the way we ended up being  , but I do agree he wouldn't have got us close to Seville .

[Kylegib 516]

5 hours ago, gmcf said:

I think he'd have won the league because I don't think he'd allowed us to be bossed about the way we ended up being  , but I do agree he wouldn't have got us close to Seville .

I don't think he'd have got us to Seville however he definitely improved our reputation in Europe although I think he'd have won us the league. 

Gio did do fantastically well getting us to Seville however he completely capitulated against celtic and his negative style eventually took it's toll.

The board are who I ultimately blame for our current predicament for trying to run us on the cheap after winning the title. I do believe Dave King when he states that the board informed Gerrard to consider Villa's offer and I also believe that Gio's statement of having to manage under unusual circumstances was a dig at the board as they didn't back him after getting to a European final then qualifying for the champions league. 

[Kylegib 516]

On 05/12/2022 at 12:37, evenstevens said:

You are persistent Kyle, and you don't seem to mind that you come across like a total weirdo, and seem oblivious to folk getting fed up with you, so I'll give you that!

Re the topic at hand........

SG

We did stand still, but we didn't have the money.  That wasn't SG's fault, but the way we started the following season was absolutely on him and the players.  My suspicion is that the players knew he was heading out the door and lost that focus they'd had the previous year.  I always think players know and lose that edge.  My worry, when I first saw celtic play under AP was that they'd end up being much, much better than they'd been before so I wanted as much as distance between us and them as we could manage before they got up to speed.  We didn't manage that, and that was poor from SG.  However, we were still ahead and our new manager took over a team well ahead.........

GVB

Under GVB, we were, in the main, absolutely awful.  And that includes during that first 7 games.  I was really worried about us, even at the start, as we looked awful.  The euro run absolutely masked how average we were, and it's a bit simple to say that I think the Ibrox Euro night factor carried us through, without GVB getting credit, but we reached levels in those games we just didn't ever reach under him in any other games.  I'm not impartial when it comes to GVB though, I made up my mind on him very early doors so I'm not sure how balanced I'm being.  Mind you, the Board eventually agreed with what I'd been saying for yonks, and Beale has come in and said the same thing (lacking in identity) so maybe I was right from the outset. 

Board

Won 55 and rested on laurels, without providing funds to take next steps forward.  All successful teams keep investing, keep going forward.  But we clearly didn't have the funds, didn't sell players who were worth anything, and therefore didn't invest.  Team suffered against a backdrop of them investing heavily and getting, let's face it, pretty ruthless domestically. 

From winning 55 to where we are now is horrendous mismanagement. 

[Jimfanciesthedude 24,925]

On 05/12/2022 at 09:52, BlueSuedeSambas said:

Might as well rename this thread kylegib vs Jimbeamjunior tbh.

Oofftt didnt think i was rent free in your mind but here we are

[Kylegib 516]

On 05/12/2022 at 11:27, superallysbears said:

Really shouldn't find that as funny as I do