Popular Post The Dude 20,026 Posted April 25, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 25, 2023 Just now, KingKirk said: For those unhappy about this what level of goalie do you want? Man United thought he was good enough to be back up For DDG He was relatively cheap, was available on loan and counts as a homegrown for their PL & Euro quotas. They also thought a 35-year-old Lee Grant was good enough to back up DDG ForeverAndEver, The Godfather, NorthernLights and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWR1979 1,964 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 4 hours ago, ElBufalo20 said: Dreadful signing. The guys made numerous howlers in his career. This was 1 season alone in the championship. Never mind the amount he made in the premier league Not watched it yet but quite happy with Butland coming in, I think you will struggle to get a keeper who has not made howlers, it's part of being a keeper. S Bluekev 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smell the hotdog 4,016 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 Kouame sounds horrific for 7m and why would we be signing a soon to be 31 year old centre half who’s right footed? Hopefully load of shite but never know with us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prso's headband 35,598 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 We signed a £7m winger who shows up about 5 minutes every 8 games so makes sense we sign a £7m striker who scores 1 in 8 HG5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,963 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 16 minutes ago, KingKirk said: For those unhappy about this what level of goalie do you want? Man United thought he was good enough to be back up For DDG Man Utd thought he was a cheap sticking plaster to fill a slot on the bench for five months. He wasn’t and never has been a viable option to play actual games for them on a regular basis in the same way that guys like Carson, Betinelli & Adrian also do at big clubs. Laudrupsleftfoot, HG5 and The Dude 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theweebluenose 4,332 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 A lot of the negative comments levelled at Butland are similar to those being aimed at Hart before he went to the filth and he has gone on to do well for them. Personally think it will be a decent signing, shocked how relatively young he is too. GWR1979 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broxi 11,518 Posted April 25, 2023 Author Share Posted April 25, 2023 Don’t hate the Chris Willock link btw Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 65,152 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 39 minutes ago, esquire8 said: Thought youd never expect a striker to score over 20 goals a season? Why you not answering how many times s you've seen Kouame play? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky. 6,946 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 Slightly sick of the Warburton hangover of signing from the English market primarily. Just become somewhere for these guys to come up and see what it's like to play under pressure. I miss the days of signing players scouted from abroad who you have little preconception about, and they either surprise you or ruin you. There's decent players to get in England, but do they ever truly take us to the next level? HG5 and falkirkNS 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy Vandenbroucke 26,206 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 I’ll be holding my water until I actually see him play for us, same with Dowell, Kouame, etc. Controversial, I know. DiamondDan 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 1 minute ago, Marky. said: Slightly sick of the Warburton hangover of signing from the English market primarily. Just become somewhere for these guys to come up and see what it's like to play under pressure. I miss the days of signing players scouted from abroad who you have little preconception about, and they either surprise you or ruin you. There's decent players to get in England, but do they ever truly take us to the next level? Mind when folk were moaning about Gio not signing Dutch players/using the Dutch market? We've now gone 180 and are moaning at Beale for doing the thing GvB was criticised for not doing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeRab 2,781 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 1 hour ago, The Dude said: Weren’t you arguing yesterday that we should sign Clarkson from the ‘same old market’ that has failed us? ? Big difference between promising young players who are improving, have played and performed well in the league already and cost nothing. And the rest.. washed up ex prem players no thanks. Big difference 😉 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cascadeshrimp 1,461 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 i would be happy enough with Butland, 30 is probably about the right age for a goalkeeper On a free i think it's relatively low risk and he must be an improvement on what we've got right now GWR1979 and Negri's lovechild 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 Just now, OrangeRab said: ? Big difference between promising young players who are improving, have played and performed well in the league already and cost nothing. And the rest.. washed up ex prem players no thanks. Big difference 😉 So the issue isn't the 'same old market that has failed us'? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeRab 2,781 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, The Dude said: Mind when folk were moaning about Gio not signing Dutch players/using the Dutch market? We've now gone 180 and are moaning at Beale for doing the thing GvB was criticised for not doing. Massive difference. The championship is the league below the richest league in the world. So it’s only natural that it’s going to be watched and scouted more by teams from the richest league. Hence it might be hard for us to find value in an overly competitive market. Newer markets like the J league. Or markets like the Dutch league who produce national teams as good as the English are legitimate criticisms of our scouting department. celtic’s signings from their Japanese managerial links are one of the main reasons they’ve over taken us. Perfectly fair for fans to want to replicate that in a manager HG5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,700 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 21 minutes ago, The Dude said: He was relatively cheap, was available on loan and counts as a homegrown for their PL & Euro quotas. They also thought a 35-year-old Lee Grant was good enough to back up DDG Same with hart at spurs again if butland isn't good enough then who'd you suggest as a better affordable alternative. On a free it's good signing and a upgrade Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 Just now, KingKirk said: Same with hart at spurs again if butland isn't good enough then who'd you suggest as a better affordable alternative. On a free it's good signing and a upgrade Personally, I'd take a shot at getting Gaga Slonina on loan from Chelsea. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWR1979 1,964 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 I can remember when Goram signed and people weren't happy also remember him making a massive howler against Hibs and he took alot of stick in his first season with us. He then went on to be a Legend. Goalkeepers make a mistake and it ends in a goal. Butland would be a good signing, although I would like to see McCrorie get a chance before the end of the season. Negri's lovechild and falkirkNS 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,700 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, The Dude said: Personally, I'd take a shot at getting Gaga Slonina on loan from Chelsea. 18yr old on loan playing in goals got disaster written all over it mate GWR1979, falkirkNS and Somemightsay7 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeRab 2,781 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 9 minutes ago, The Dude said: So the issue isn't the 'same old market that has failed us'? No it is. Part of the equation of player profile+market+fee. It all goes in to the equation. If it is a promising young player that we can get in like Bassey or Aribo for a free and usually minimal wages (Dare I say it a Clarkson). We should be all over it. Outside of them our last signings have been Davies, Cantwell, Lawrence, Bacuna, Lundstrum, Ofoborh, McLaughlin, Simpson, Defoe, Edmundson, Stewart. It’s not a good enough return for me. But each to their own. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,680 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 6 minutes ago, KingKirk said: Same with hart at spurs again if butland isn't good enough then who'd you suggest as a better affordable alternative. On a free it's good signing and a upgrade Based on stuff from 5+ years ago HG5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,963 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 7 minutes ago, The Dude said: Mind when folk were moaning about Gio not signing Dutch players/using the Dutch market? We've now gone 180 and are moaning at Beale for doing the thing GvB was criticised for not doing. Still blows my mind that we weren’t and haven’t been linked with Dylan Vente. We are working on a limited budget and are desperate for another couple of goal-scorers and he’s sitting with 49 goals and 16 assists in 94 games for a team who are a middling Dutch second tier side. OrangeRab 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 Just now, KingKirk said: 18yr old on loan playing in goals got disaster written all over it mate A 30-year-old on 30-40k per week having barely kicked a ball in the last three years carries all the same potential for disaster. Slonina has already shown he's a more than capable keeper and is already a full international with consistent first-team football under his belt. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,700 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 1 minute ago, ForeverAndEver said: Based on stuff from 5+ years ago 5 year or 5 month he's a upgrade on mcgregor Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,680 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 1 minute ago, KingKirk said: 5 year or 5 month he's a upgrade on mcgregor Cool. KingKirk 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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