OrangeRab 2,853 Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 Other than the direct free kick, I thought that was one of our poorest games for set pieces. We seem to be playing for a knock down at every set piece rather than whipping balls on top of the goal with pace to attack and score directly? They aren’t a big team and we’ve seen them lose a few goals to in-swinging corners. Hart in particular has been a liability. Thought we missed an opportunity persisting with the floaty balls and out swingers. JCDBigBear and Bad Robot 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SeparateEntityMyArse 53,983 Posted December 30, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 30, 2023 Kyogo never covers the danger zone area as he's too wee, he's always positioned before that on the off chance of poor delivery. He cleared a few set pieces today which illustrated just how poor the deliveries were. kelvd1873, RoboBearToo, Bad Robot and 3 others 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadron Collider 31,130 Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 Need to get Tav off corners for a start. I’d rather see him standing just out side the box waiting for a clearance from the opposition. kelvd1873, Drunk and disorderly., KeyserSoze and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarzM 1,256 Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 Here is the thing about Tav (and i'm not hating on him). Tav crosses the ball (either in play or a freekick) 10 times. He hits the first defender 5/10 times. He over hits the cross 4/10 times He gets it right 1/10 times. It's always been the same. However, he crosses the ball so often...it looks like he gets a lot of assists (which in fairness, he does)...but he is fucking murder! We MUST have someone else who can take a freekick? Either that or he HAS to be told to stop fucking floating freekicks into the box. It's pish! HG5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
psb07158 33,511 Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 Aye those floated balls in were absurd JCDBigBear and chris182 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jela 20,540 Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 The goal aside, we made the wrong decision at just about every free kick we had today. Good few times we were in a position to pile bodies into the box, given their weakness at set pieces, and really put them under the cosh. Instead we were playing short and all the way back to the defence to then lose posession. Pointless. HG5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
don logan 8,077 Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 I'm sure Austin MacPhee is freelance. Bring him onboard to work on our set pieces. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarzM 1,256 Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 6 minutes ago, don logan said: I'm sure Austin MacPhee is freelance. Bring him onboard to work on our set pieces. I'd prefer Nanny McPhee TBH! lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossco87 692 Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 24 minutes ago, MarzM said: Here is the thing about Tav (and i'm not hating on him). Tav crosses the ball (either in play or a freekick) 10 times. He hits the first defender 5/10 times. He over hits the cross 4/10 times He gets it right 1/10 times. It's always been the same. However, he crosses the ball so often...it looks like he gets a lot of assists (which in fairness, he does)...but he is fucking murder! We MUST have someone else who can take a freekick? Either that or he HAS to be told to stop fucking floating freekicks into the box. It's pish! Same is pretty much true of Borna to some extent. Borna’s deliveries are probably a bit more consistent but a lot of the time he is swinging a fairly pointless ball from too deep in to the box which does not give the attacker the opportunity to go and attack it and where our attackers are outnumbered. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 43,120 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Set pieces won't change until the takers leave the club. Best corner yesterday was taken by Cantwell on the left. No one else had a look in for any of the others. OrangeRab and JCDBigBear 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amokachi 3,062 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Not so much yesterday tbh but in recent games our use of and defending of throw ins have been fkn stinking. Used to scoff at the idea of a coach for this but not now. HG5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zappa6995 3,684 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Pieces of shite is generally what they are. HG5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
voltago 66 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Every time we get a corner you know it is coming to nothing, feels like it’s been like that for a long time as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeRab 2,853 Posted December 31, 2023 Author Share Posted December 31, 2023 3 hours ago, esquire8 said: Set pieces won't change until the takers leave the club. Best corner yesterday was taken by Cantwell on the left. No one else had a look in for any of the others. Yeh Cantwell’s was hit with noticeably more pace and more dangerous. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 109,502 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 3 hours ago, esquire8 said: Set pieces won't change until the takers leave the club. Best corner yesterday was taken by Cantwell on the left. No one else had a look in for any of the others. hopefully Devine replaces tav on Tuesday Laudrupsleftfoot and HG5 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 43,120 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 16 minutes ago, OrangeRab said: Yeh Cantwell’s was hit with noticeably more pace and more dangerous. It was also right into that 8 yard box line and Hart stays on his line but no one was there. Only done it the once so ended up being an easy day for them. Said it in the match thread before kickoff, inswingers into that 8 yard box is their weak spot and we should've capitalised on it more but because Tav was in charge again and fucking rotten at delivery, we didn't. JCDBigBear 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 43,120 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 1 minute ago, RFC55 said: hopefully Devine replaces tav on Tuesday I'm not saying that. We should've had inswinging deliveries everytime with pace instead of the usual nonsense we are seeing because the same person takes every set piece. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 109,502 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Just now, esquire8 said: I'm not saying that. We should've had inswinging deliveries everytime with pace instead of the usual nonsense we are seeing because the same person takes every set piece. Theres a stat about inswingers and it’s why they’re not the most effective. a corner only leads to a goal around 2% of the time iirc johanhentze, The No.9, LV and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The No.9 760 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 13 hours ago, MarzM said: Here is the thing about Tav (and i'm not hating on him). Tav crosses the ball (either in play or a freekick) 10 times. He hits the first defender 5/10 times. He over hits the cross 4/10 times He gets it right 1/10 times. It's always been the same. However, he crosses the ball so often...it looks like he gets a lot of assists (which in fairness, he does)...but he is fucking murder! We MUST have someone else who can take a freekick? Either that or he HAS to be told to stop fucking floating freekicks into the box. It's pish! I've always felt tavs best assists come from deep early crosses in open play RFC55 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 43,120 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Just now, RFC55 said: Theres a stat about inswingers and it’s why they’re not the most effective. a corner only leads to a goal around 2% of the time iirc Yes but as I said above, that's clearly their weak spot and should've been exploited more instead of a Tav delivery to Kyogo at the near post. He has to relinquish control of every single set piece and give others a go. He can still take his direct freekicks outside the box which he is clearly better at. King Jela 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dummiesoot 16,035 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 3 hours ago, RFC55 said: Theres a stat about inswingers and it’s why they’re not the most effective. a corner only leads to a goal around 2% of the time iirc True, but against that mob, they have a recognised weakness, you focus on that and put them under pressure JCDBigBear, OrangeRab and King Jela 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeRab 2,853 Posted December 31, 2023 Author Share Posted December 31, 2023 3 hours ago, RFC55 said: Theres a stat about inswingers and it’s why they’re not the most effective. a corner only leads to a goal around 2% of the time iirc Yeh that’s definitely true. Although part of that I’d imagine is they’re more likely to get punched away if the keeper is mobile. They’ve struggled this year against in swingers as Hart can’t move his feet. Might be something we look to exploit next time. Especially if other teams in the league continue to have success with it Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudrupsleftfoot 11,157 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 The technique for curling it into the top corner and crossing in with pace is essentially the same, just more like a ‘second serve’ when crossing so there’s a bit more control - no idea how Tav got four or five completely wrong before his goal yesterday. HG5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HG5 11,255 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 5 minutes ago, Laudrupsleftfoot said: The technique for curling it into the top corner and crossing in with pace is essentially the same, just more like a ‘second serve’ when crossing so there’s a bit more control - no idea how Tav got four or five completely wrong before his goal yesterday. By the same token, after the dross he’d served up, it was very much out of the blue that he managed to find the top corner for the goal! Laudrupsleftfoot 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CR3 12,729 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Thought your Goldsons and Baloguns are always hitting the back post but our free-kicks barely hit the middle of the box, poor. King Jela 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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