BlueSuedeSambas 54,449 Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 16 minutes ago, beararse said: Doesn’t hurt me in the slightest. He’s clearly not one of the worst signings we’ve ever made. There have been countless worse than him. A number of worse players, but not many with the financial outlay we committed to him. A truly awful signing. The Godfather and BlueAvenger 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wully 48,128 Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 1 hour ago, G.E.C. said: I’ve came to the conclusion that the Dutch league is shite. I have no logic or any explanation. Barkas is linked with Sevilla. He is in goals for Lammers team..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 43,632 Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 1 hour ago, G.E.C. said: I’ve came to the conclusion that the Dutch league is shite. I have no logic or any explanation. It's not shite. It's a proper league ran by competent governing body that have teams willing to play proper football without knuckledragging neanderthals that bring the standard so far down it wouldn't look out of place in the 70s. Darth Bear and beararse 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.E.C. 19,071 Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 Just now, esquire8 said: It's not shite. It's a proper league ran by competent governing body that have teams willing to play proper football without knuckledragging neanderthals that bring the standard so far down it wouldn't look out of place in the 70s. I reckon we’d pump the rest of the league. Hammered Willem II without breaking sweat under Gerrard. plymouthranger 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 43,632 Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 Just now, G.E.C. said: I reckon we’d pump the rest of the league. Hammered Willem II without breaking sweat under Gerrard. And Willem II would probably easily beat the other 10 teams in this league. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyal72 12,157 Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 1 hour ago, G.E.C. said: I’ve came to the conclusion that the Dutch league is shite. I have no logic or any explanation. Same conclusion btw. Outwith the usual teams, the rest are on par with the shite in our league I'd say. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.E.C. 19,071 Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 Just now, esquire8 said: And Willem II would probably easily beat the other 10 teams in this league. Fuck Willem II anyway esquire8 and graeme_4 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beararse 6,472 Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 5 hours ago, The Godfather said: For the money nope. He was fucking dreadful 🤣 Ball cost 6.5m in 2001 (=13.5m in 2024 money) and was sold for about 550k 4 years later (which is around 1m these days) so we lost the equivalent of 12.5m in transfer fees on Ball! Konterman cost 4.5 in 2000 (=9.3m in 2024) and left for nothing. Peña cost 3.2m in 2017 (=4.1m in 2024) and left for nothing. Christiansen cost £1.7m in 2000 (=3.5m in 2024)and left for nothing. Mladenvovic cost 1.6m in 2004 (=3m in 2024) and left for nothing. Rodriguez cost 1.5m in 2005 (=2.7m in 2024) and again was punted for hee haw. Grezda cost 2m in 2018 (=2.5m in 2024) and was off-loaded for a reported 300k We’ve also spent big on players who flattered to deceive where we’ve clawed back some money: Guivarc’h cost 3.5m in 1998 (=7.6m in 2024), Salenko cost 3.5m in 1995 (=8.3m in 2024) etc. None of the above covered themselves in glory and all were a disappointment in a Rangers shirt. We’ve reportedly paid 3.5m for Lammers, he’s scored 6 goals in the last 6 games on loan at Utrecht and will almost certainly sign for them/another Dutch team for at least 50% what we paid and probably more so we’ll perhaps lose (worst case) 1.75m on him. There have been plenty worse than Lammwrs with Konterman being the absolute worst by a country mile in terms of quality and cost. At least Ball was a decent player who had an injury then a contract trigger payment: both limited his game time. Konterman was just shite. We also had the likes of Sebo, Capucho, Beattie and Garner to name but a few who, once you account for inflation and lower/zero sell on fees, will have cost the club more money than Lammers whilst delivering the square root of fuck all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albertzz 992 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 14 hours ago, beararse said: 🤣 Ball cost 6.5m in 2001 (=13.5m in 2024 money) and was sold for about 550k 4 years later (which is around 1m these days) so we lost the equivalent of 12.5m in transfer fees on Ball! Konterman cost 4.5 in 2000 (=9.3m in 2024) and left for nothing. Peña cost 3.2m in 2017 (=4.1m in 2024) and left for nothing. Christiansen cost £1.7m in 2000 (=3.5m in 2024)and left for nothing. Mladenvovic cost 1.6m in 2004 (=3m in 2024) and left for nothing. Rodriguez cost 1.5m in 2005 (=2.7m in 2024) and again was punted for hee haw. Grezda cost 2m in 2018 (=2.5m in 2024) and was off-loaded for a reported 300k We’ve also spent big on players who flattered to deceive where we’ve clawed back some money: Guivarc’h cost 3.5m in 1998 (=7.6m in 2024), Salenko cost 3.5m in 1995 (=8.3m in 2024) etc. None of the above covered themselves in glory and all were a disappointment in a Rangers shirt. We’ve reportedly paid 3.5m for Lammers, he’s scored 6 goals in the last 6 games on loan at Utrecht and will almost certainly sign for them/another Dutch team for at least 50% what we paid and probably more so we’ll perhaps lose (worst case) 1.75m on him. There have been plenty worse than Lammwrs with Konterman being the absolute worst by a country mile in terms of quality and cost. At least Ball was a decent player who had an injury then a contract trigger payment: both limited his game time. Konterman was just shite. We also had the likes of Sebo, Capucho, Beattie and Garner to name but a few who, once you account for inflation and lower/zero sell on fees, will have cost the club more money than Lammers whilst delivering the square root of fuck all. Why we selling lammers at a loss when he’s been somewhat successful on loan? beararse and hawkfalcons 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven33jackie 1,972 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 Being played as an number nine at Utrecht and scoring goals. Sums up our scouting under Beale that he was played behind Dessers as a ten. Given our outlay to sign him he comes back for pre season and gets a run of games as a number nine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mus 1,393 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 I Believe he has come out and said we was being played in the wrong position with us as he is a entre forward, still shit but you can see why he struggled Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somemightsay7 2,556 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 6 minutes ago, mus said: I Believe he has come out and said we was being played in the wrong position with us as he is a entre forward, still shit but you can see why he struggled What's his excuse for every other club he played at and was terrible? 1 goal at Sampdoria, 1 goal at Empoli, 1 goal at Frankfurt, 2 goals at Atlanta, 2 goals at Rangers. He's about to turn 27 and this is only the 2nd time he's ever scored more than 2 goals. It's worth saying he's scored as many goals (8) as Dessers since he moved and no one is raving about him. His record is 1 goal every 155 minutes. Dessers since then is 1 goal every 102 minutes. BlueAvenger 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Badger 8,835 Posted April 15 Popular Post Share Posted April 15 Absolutely nothing in Lammers history suggests he was ever going to score much. The fact some are thinking he could have been the solution to our striker problems shows how bad we are up top. Lammers had ample chance at Rangers. A few flashy touches and turns (which produced little) aside - he was bad. plymouthranger, SkylineBlue, BlueAvenger and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beararse 6,472 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 2 hours ago, Albertzz said: Why we selling lammers at a loss when he’s been somewhat successful on loan? I was pandering to his critics who seem happy to flog him at half price. Personally I didn’t think he was that bad at Rangers. Never scored much but did OK in what was (now) obviously not his natural position. He was clearly a lad with some skill. Id have him back to be honest. Even out of position, he's an upgrade on Lawrence IMO who is absolutely shite but I can’t see him wanting to come back. KeyserSoze 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkfalcons 2,316 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 2 hours ago, Albertzz said: Why we selling lammers at a loss when he’s been somewhat successful on loan? That's a very good question Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 54,288 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 Lammers isn't the answer if the question is about how to improve Rangers. He's just not. Almacger 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 54,449 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 30 minutes ago, beararse said: I was pandering to his critics who seem happy to flog him at half price. Personally I didn’t think he was that bad at Rangers. Never scored much but did OK in what was (now) obviously not his natural position. He was clearly a lad with some skill. Id have him back to be honest. Even out of position, he's an upgrade on Lawrence IMO who is absolutely shite but I can’t see him wanting to come back. 31 appearances, 2 goals, 2 assists and 2 absolute sitters missed. He might be playing well now, but he was complete garbage for us. Almacger and plymouthranger 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Almacger 1,458 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 1 minute ago, BlueSuedeSambas said: 31 appearances, 2 goals, 2 assists and 2 absolute sitters missed. He might be playing well now, but he was complete garbage for us. We were basically playing with what felt like 10 men most weeks when he was in our team. Absolutely no way does he come back into our team and improve us, he was awful. Let's hope his performances over in Holland convince a club to take him off our hands for an acceptable fee. SeparateEntityMyArse 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 35,186 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 36 minutes ago, beararse said: I was pandering to his critics who seem happy to flog him at half price. Personally I didn’t think he was that bad at Rangers. Never scored much but did OK in what was (now) obviously not his natural position. He was clearly a lad with some skill. Id have him back to be honest. Even out of position, he's an upgrade on Lawrence IMO who is absolutely shite but I can’t see him wanting to come back. Come on to fuck man RFC55 and SkylineBlue 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 110,177 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 3 minutes ago, graeme_4 said: Come on to fuck man Wild man. Don’t know what some people watch plymouthranger, AGM_72 and graeme_4 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beararse 6,472 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 4 minutes ago, BlueSuedeSambas said: 31 appearances, 2 goals, 2 assists and 2 absolute sitters missed. He might be playing well now, but he was complete garbage for us. Cant argue against those stats. I didnt think he was any worse than anyone else under Beale to be honest and he improved under Clement but then fell out of favour. Lacked the mental resilience to play for Rangers, not skill IMO. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 110,177 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 3 minutes ago, beararse said: Cant argue against those stats. I didnt think he was any worse than anyone else under Beale to be honest and he improved under Clement but then fell out of favour. Lacked the mental resilience to play for Rangers, not skill IMO. He was atrocious for us, I don’t think there’s any point in saying otherwise imo Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McEwan's Lager 30,879 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 He was rubbish for us. Do wonder if the Sima injury had happened earlier wether he would still have been loaned out to Utrecht. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somemightsay7 2,556 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 18 minutes ago, BlueSuedeSambas said: 31 appearances, 2 goals, 2 assists and 2 absolute sitters missed. He might be playing well now, but he was complete garbage for us. Funnily enough, that was his 2nd most successful season of his career. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurrayWilson 3,499 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 He just isnt suited to the pace of the game in Scotland. He obviously must have some ability and is showing it in a slower paced if more technical league. The best result for everyone is if we can recoup what we paid and invest it in a forward that can play in our league. beararse 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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