BlueboyG 5,256 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 A lot of folk wanted Lundstram rested last night as he looked fucked in Portugal, he was excellent and went on to win MOM. Boybluesy, BlueAvenger and Amokachi 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prso's headband 35,583 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 We’re in dire need of the international break. Long way to go in this season but I can’t wait to see what we do in the summer, especially around the medical area of the club. We’ve always had injuries but the past 2 seasons not even one of them could run the place as bad as it’s been.  The manager will be desperate for two wins this week and then my hope is Cantwell, Matondo, Sterling, and McCausland are fit for the 30th with Sima hopefully in the squad. RFCRobertson, OrangeRab and AGM_72 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacBoyd 5,494 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 41 minutes ago, Roy Hobbs said: We'd thrown the title away before the Dortmund games. Bullshit was only a point or 2 in it, the dropped points to Dundee away Motherwell at home and defeat to them at ibrox did it OrangeRab 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Hobbs 2,182 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 1 minute ago, MacBoyd said: Bullshit was only a point or 2 in it, the dropped points to Dundee away Motherwell at home and defeat to them at ibrox did it There was 6 points in it in January before we played Dortmund. We fucked it against Aberdeen and Ross County in winning positions and then had to go to their dump 2 points ahead instead of 6. Completely different dynamic at that point and we shat the bed. They barely dropped a point after that. Had we not been playing in Europe we still wouldn't have won the league. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southsider 313 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 54 minutes ago, esquire8 said: It's not as bad as we think because of the manager. Any other time we would be a fucking mess and winning nothing. The injury list is just stupid and made even worse because of the previous summer transfer window. I don't disagree, but I doubt this squad wins much without Clement, even if everyone is fit. The thing is, the reason guys like Clement are successful is because they do want to win everything and while as fans we may want him to prioritise the league over Europe, I doubt he will Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacBoyd 5,494 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 6 minutes ago, Roy Hobbs said: There was 6 points in it in January before we played Dortmund. We fucked it against Aberdeen and Ross County in winning positions and then had to go to their dump 2 points ahead instead of 6. Completely different dynamic at that point and we shat the bed. They barely dropped a point after that. Had we not been playing in Europe we still wouldn't have won the league. Yeah but it obviously wasn't over, I doubt we'd of won it either but my point is there is a clear sequence of it no leading to league champions Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Hobbs 2,182 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 2 minutes ago, MacBoyd said: Yeah but it obviously wasn't over, I doubt we'd of won it either but my point is there is a clear sequence of it no leading to league champions It had no impact. The majority of the points we dropped after the break was a 4 week period that started before we played in Dortmund. Winning positions lost against Aberdeen, Ross County and Motherwell. We missed a shit load of chances against Dundee United. The tarriers beat us at Ibrox after an international break. That effectively ended it. We went to extra time twice in a week after Leipzig and the final and won in the Scottish cup. Blaming Europe is a cheap excuse for us shitting the bed in the league. RFCRobertson 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,669 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 28 minutes ago, MacBoyd said: Bullshit was only a point or 2 in it, the dropped points to Dundee away Motherwell at home and defeat to them at ibrox did it Which one of those games did we drop points due to fatigue or playing too many games? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 82,652 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 50 minutes ago, BlueboyG said: A lot of folk wanted Lundstram rested last night as he looked fucked in Portugal, he was excellent and went on to win MOM. He looked fucked at the end again last night too Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacBoyd 5,494 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 2 minutes ago, ForeverAndEver said: Which one of those games did we drop points due to fatigue or playing too many games? Dundee away Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Hobbs 2,182 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 3 minutes ago, MacBoyd said: Dundee away We played Annan athletic the week before without most of the first choice 11. They were well rested. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkylineBlue 23,566 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 1 hour ago, BlueboyG said: A lot of folk wanted Lundstram rested last night as he looked fucked in Portugal, he was excellent and went on to win MOM. Lundstrum played well, but he looked really tired for spells of the game. If we keep playing him he's going to break down soon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,669 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 24 minutes ago, MacBoyd said: Dundee away We beat Dundee away.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacBoyd 5,494 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 13 minutes ago, ForeverAndEver said: We beat Dundee away.. Dundee United pretty sure played them after a euro game. Either way if you don't think playing big matches on a Thursday night can have an impact physically and mentally especially this year with our injury crisis then good luck to you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McEwan's Lager 30,609 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 5 minutes ago, MacBoyd said: Dundee United pretty sure played them after a euro game. Either way if you don't think playing big matches on a Thursday night can have an impact physically and mentally especially this year with our injury crisis then good luck to you. We drew with Dundee Utd away on the Sunday after beating Dortmund away on the Thursday I think. MacBoyd 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,696 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 I just hope this season isn't a case of what if. The players clearly aren't fit enough to play how the manager wants to play. I don't blame beale for that just different managers play different styles. Same happened with klopp at Liverpool in the beginning. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Hobbs 2,182 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 4 minutes ago, MacBoyd said: Dundee United pretty sure played them after a euro game. Either way if you don't think playing big matches on a Thursday night can have an impact physically and mentally especially this year with our injury crisis then good luck to you. We've played 11 games in Europe this season, 10 last season, and 19 the season before that. If players are too tired to play after these games they shouldn't be at Rangers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeRab 2,780 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 39 minutes ago, Roy Hobbs said: We played Annan athletic the week before without most of the first choice 11. They were well rested. It’s not how it works. You don’t just fully recover back to peak in a week. There’s all sorts of research on this stuff - repeated muscle microtrauma that happens with each game, CNS fatigue, increased injury risk, inflammation etc All that can affect performance as well as injury risk. Just a nonsense to say that it has no effects. There’s a reason top managers rotate players when they can. And some of our players like Tav and Lundstrum will have played as many minutes as anyone in European football post the winter break.  MacBoyd 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Maestro 11,216 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 6 minutes ago, Roy Hobbs said: We've played 11 games in Europe this season, 10 last season, and 19 the season before that. If players are too tired to play after these games they shouldn't be at Rangers. So every player then? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Hobbs 2,182 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 1 minute ago, J-Maestro said: So every player then? Are they too tired to play two games a week? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al 55 9,281 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Our injury situation has caused further injuries. Neither McCausland or Sterling would have been playing yesterday if we had more fit players IMO. bluenoz, graeme_4 and MacBoyd 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Maestro 11,216 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 2 minutes ago, Roy Hobbs said: Are they too tired to play two games a week? Yes, that's why nearly every top manager is complaining about the number of games players are playing now... OrangeRab and MacBoyd 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeRab 2,780 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 4 minutes ago, Roy Hobbs said: Are they too tired to play two games a week? You watch us and seen how we press now under PC as well? You saw how celtic were saved by the winter break farce under Postecoglou. They would have been cooked if they ever had European football after Xmas. You just think we can play a high intensity press with the same players twice a week and have no impact on injuries, fatigue and performance?! Same thing happened with Arsenal last season. bluenoz 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Hobbs 2,182 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 10 minutes ago, OrangeRab said: It’s not how it works. You don’t just fully recover back to peak in a week. There’s all sorts of research on this stuff - repeated muscle microtrauma that happens with each game, CNS fatigue, increased injury risk, inflammation etc All that can affect performance as well as injury risk. Just a nonsense to say that it has no effects. There’s a reason top managers rotate players when they can. And some of our players like Tav and Lundstrum will have played as many minutes as anyone in European football post the winter break.  Neither of them are internationals. At that stage of the season we'd just come out of a winter break and we had 2 cup games against cannon fodder. Had we lost the league because of points dropped later on the season when fatigue really should set in, the run might have been a factor. We dropped most of the points before we played in Europe. Was that fatigue? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Maestro 11,216 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 1 minute ago, Roy Hobbs said: Neither of them are internationals. At that stage of the season we'd just come out of a winter break and we had 2 cup games against cannon fodder. Had we lost the league because of points dropped later on the season when fatigue really should set in the run might have been a factor. We dropped most of the points before we played in Europe. Was that fatigue? Are you mental? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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