Tav's time is up.

[LaudrupsPatrickBoots 13,540]

I’ve tried to back him but it’s finished. Everything about him is on the decline now and we have to try and move him on.

Yes, the amount of goals and assists he’s got for us especially from a right back is nothing short of incredible but let’s be realistic, the fact he’s sitting with 3 significant trophies in all the time he’s been here and 9 wins against them in 36 attempts means in years to come when we discuss old Rangers captains James Tavernier will be remembered mostly as a loser.

[docspiderman 1,255]

2 hours ago, LaudrupsPatrickBoots said:

I’ve tried to back him but it’s finished. Everything about him is on the decline now and we have to try and move him on.

Yes, the amount of goals and assists he’s got for us especially from a right back is nothing short of incredible but let’s be realistic, the fact he’s sitting with 3 significant trophies in all the time he’s been here and 9 wins against them in 36 attempts means in years to come when we discuss old Rangers captains James Tavernier will be remembered mostly as a loser.

While I agree with this we have to remember the most telling circumstances; through no fault of his he has been the captain of, let us face it, a basket case of a club in management and recruitment.

My first time at Ibrox was in 1958 so I have seen many captains like George Young, Caldow Shearer, Greig and the 80's on with Butcher, Gough, Amoruso, Ferguson etc but all these captains had a real talented team of players alongside them.. Even in the dominant Celtic years in the 60;s and early 70's we had a brilliant team with a great record apart from not winning titles.

Apart from the early to mid 80's when the club was rudderless and had a ridiculously bad recruitment record this squad is miles off the pure quality of past decades and I doubt that any one man of all our great captains could win trophies on his own with what we have now and what we have suffered in the past 12 years.

[Jimfanciesthedude 24,901]

Remember when ricksen got torn apart by petta in the 6-2 game where advocaat hauled him off in under half an hour, next OF game reyna got the right back slot and out petta in the Govan front within mins of KO, took a booking but petta hid the rest of the game, we badly need someone to do that to maeda

Top pic is maeda about to control a long ball tavs positioning isnt an issue he's going over to him to close him down

2nd image is when maeda releases the ball, absolutely fucking criminal to allow him to control that long ball, take it down and make such an inroad to our goals 

[SeparateEntityMyArse 54,238]

1 minute ago, Jimfanciesthedude said:

Remember when ricksen got torn apart by petta in the 6-2 game where advocaat hauled him off in under half an hour, next OF game reyna got the right back slot and out petta in the Govan front within mins of KO, took a booking but petta hid the rest of the game, we badly need someone to do that to maeda

Top pic is maeda about to control a long ball tavs positioning isnt an issue he's going over to him to close him down

2nd image is when maeda releases the ball, absolutely fucking criminal to allow him to control that long ball, take it down and make such an inroad to our goals 

Should absolutely have done better to close down the cross. But I'm looking at that second image thinking defensively that's a pretty safe shape we're in.

Lundstram had other ideas 😡

[AGM_72 3,727]

1 minute ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said:

Should absolutely have done better to close down the cross. But I'm looking at that second image thinking defensively that's a pretty safe shape we're in.

Lundstram had other ideas 😡

If you see it back, Lundstram allows Hatate to get goal side early and spends the rest of the build up trying to catch him. So the image is a little misleading.

He arrives back that late, I think hatate doesn't even know he's there - if only our midfielders were adept at ghosting in like that at the other end of the pitch . 

[ForeverAndEver 72,033]

5 hours ago, KyleBJK said:

Absolutely spot on from Stevie at Four lads. 

 

Yet just a couple of years ago, Tavernier deserved to be in the HOF?

[Jimfanciesthedude 24,901]

6 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said:

Should absolutely have done better to close down the cross. But I'm looking at that second image thinking defensively that's a pretty safe shape we're in.

Lundstram had other ideas 😡

Lundstram trying to cut out the cross is pure shit luck though, 99/100 that goes out for a corner or into keepers arms

But how many goals are we going to see conceded, especially at the piggery, csuse our fullbacks chaperone the fucking wingers into the box, its schoolboy stuff now

Barisic is worse at it unbelievably 

[SeparateEntityMyArse 54,238]

9 minutes ago, Jimfanciesthedude said:

Lundstram trying to cut out the cross is pure shit luck though, 99/100 that goes out for a corner or into keepers arms

But how many goals are we going to see conceded, especially at the piggery, csuse our fullbacks chaperone the fucking wingers into the box, its schoolboy stuff now

Barisic is worse at it unbelievably 

It's not shit luck its simple defending. You cut that out with the instep of your right foot and play it easily anywhere to the left of the left post. It's awful defending from a player who could and should have prevented it.

We certainly are poor down our flanks, no argument there.

[five stars 1,735]

28 minutes ago, Jimfanciesthedude said:

Lundstram trying to cut out the cross is pure shit luck though, 99/100 that goes out for a corner or into keepers arms

But how many goals are we going to see conceded, especially at the piggery, csuse our fullbacks chaperone the fucking wingers into the box, its schoolboy stuff now

Barisic is worse at it unbelievably 

It was a terrible OG, it's not like it hits off him and he know nothing about it.

The balls comes across at an awkward angle but he has time, I guess he gets caught in two minds.

Unfortunately,  he's then trying to make up for it but flying into reckless tackles.

[Jimfanciesthedude 24,901]

19 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said:

It's not shit luck its simple defending. You cut that out with the instep of your right foot and play it easily anywhere to the left of the left post. It's awful defending from a player who could and should have prevented it.

We certainly are poor down our flanks, no argument there.

 

Just now, five stars said:

It was a terrible OG, it's not like it hits off him and he know nothing about it.

The balls comes across at an awkward angle but he has time, I guess he gets caught in two minds.

Unfortunately,  he's then trying to make up for it but flying into reckless tackles.

Not absolving him of all blame, but how many times do you see players wildly swipe at balls into the box etc and luck is with them, he likely has panicked and thought "i need to cut out the cross" 

Fact is once again we are in the position of that being able to happen because we have watched for seasons now, the tarriers batter us down the flanks and never addressed it

[five stars 1,735]

Both full backs are poor at stopping crosses. Tav should be much closer to Maede and challenging him outside the box but because he's scared of his pace, backs off.

Barasic is worse but at least he can still run up and down the park all day and provide decent crosses like his assist for Dessers goal.

[five stars 1,735]

55 minutes ago, Jimfanciesthedude said:

Remember when ricksen got torn apart by petta in the 6-2 game where advocaat hauled him off in under half an hour, next OF game reyna got the right back slot and out petta in the Govan front within mins of KO, took a booking but petta hid the rest of the game, we badly need someone to do that to maeda

Top pic is maeda about to control a long ball tavs positioning isnt an issue he's going over to him to close him down

2nd image is when maeda releases the ball, absolutely fucking criminal to allow him to control that long ball, take it down and make such an inroad to our goals 

We don't need someone to boot Maede of the park. He's a one trick pony, little skill only pace.

Yilmaz had him in this pocket, in the last game here when he played on the left. Sterling could also match him for pace.

If he can't out run the fullback he usually does a Barasic and passes the ball backwards.

[SeparateEntityMyArse 54,238]

Just now, Jimfanciesthedude said:

 

Not absolving him of all blame, but how many times do you see players wildly swipe at balls into the box etc and luck is with them, he likely has panicked and thought "i need to cut out the cross" 

Fact is once again we are in the position of that being able to happen because we have watched for seasons now, the tarriers batter us down the flanks and never addressed it

Mate come on. When he's running back towards our goal his mind should have clearly been on what he was going to do if the ball reached him and how he'd clear it. He'd time to generate those thoughts there was no need for any panic.

The ball reaching him is on Tav, but the ball then ending up in the back of the net is from piss poor play, entirely preventable by Lundstram.

 

[Jimfanciesthedude 24,901]

4 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said:

Mate come on. When he's running back towards our goal his mind should have clearly been on what he was going to do if the ball reached him and how he'd clear it. He'd time to generate those thoughts there was no need for any panic.

The ball reaching him is on Tav, but the ball then ending up in the back of the net is from piss poor play, entirely preventable by Lundstram.

 

Totally agree, and in his own thread he should be getting pelters for it, i will in a minute

But theres people in here who think we can keep tav and buy better around him, manage his minutes, get him fit blah blah blah

Tav and barisic have been doing this shit for years now, putting us under big pressure by not closing down wingers or putting in tackles 

Tav did it at ibrox in beales 2-2 game, minutes to go, squares off against jota on the halfway line, allows him past with a shitty wee tackle, next thing you know we are dragged out of shape

Fuck even that one yesterday, jockey maeda down the line, dont let him run diagonal to the box

[beararse 6,468]

1 hour ago, Jimfanciesthedude said:

Remember when ricksen got torn apart by petta in the 6-2 game where advocaat hauled him off in under half an hour, next OF game reyna got the right back slot and out petta in the Govan front within mins of KO, took a booking but petta hid the rest of the game, we badly need someone to do that to maeda

Top pic is maeda about to control a long ball tavs positioning isnt an issue he's going over to him to close him down

2nd image is when maeda releases the ball, absolutely fucking criminal to allow him to control that long ball, take it down and make such an inroad to our goals 

This. 100%

[KyleBJK 885]

1 hour ago, ForeverAndEver said:

Yet just a couple of years ago, Tavernier deserved to be in the HOF?

Don’t shoot the messenger. 

[Gaffbear 4,101]

I've always loved Tav but he's lost that yard of pace now both mentally and physically . Times up. Sterling should be the instant replacement. 

[BlueboyG 5,298]

We shouldnt be relying on Tavs numbers, if we had decent attacking midfielders and a good striker we could bring in a right back that can defend.

[docspiderman 1,255]

10 minutes ago, BlueboyG said:

We shouldnt be relying on Tavs numbers, if we had decent attacking midfielders and a good striker we could bring in a right back that can defend.

A thing of the past unfortunately and the trendy way to play full back seems to be to have them wander to central midfield for some reason. Madness!

[crazy bob swollenbaws 1,912]

3 hours ago, docspiderman said:

While I agree with this we have to remember the most telling circumstances; through no fault of his he has been the captain of, let us face it, a basket case of a club in management and recruitment.

My first time at Ibrox was in 1958 so I have seen many captains like George Young, Caldow Shearer, Greig and the 80's on with Butcher, Gough, Amoruso, Ferguson etc but all these captains had a real talented team of players alongside them.. Even in the dominant celtic years in the 60;s and early 70's we had a brilliant team with a great record apart from not winning titles.

Apart from the early to mid 80's when the club was rudderless and had a ridiculously bad recruitment record this squad is miles off the pure quality of past decades and I doubt that any one man of all our great captains could win trophies on his own with what we have now and what we have suffered in the past 12 years.

Maeda Rodgering  him repeatedly one on one in old firm games is not the boards fault. Apart from the fact  that he is still at the club.

[Smile 26,622]

He's slow as fuck the amount of time people get the ball in behind him is staggering. shites it from Maeda who's average as fuck.

 

[evenstevens 912]

The stills above are damning.  We have a brilliant ability in Old Firms to get battered, have a lot less possession and still look like we are being hit on the break.  It's a special talent, for sure. 

[dummiesoot 16,111]

Last night, 2 nil down and the players looked beaten, our club captain joining them in that. 
 

never a leader in a month of Sundays , no trying to gee folk up, no grabbing the team by the balls and getting a response. 

[five stars 1,735]

3 minutes ago, dummiesoot said:

Last night, 2 nil down and the players looked beaten, our club captain joining them in that. 
 

never a leader in a month of Sundays , no trying to gee folk up, no grabbing the team by the balls and getting a response. 

I think 99% of supporters have finally realised he not a winner or a leader.

[King Jela 20,643]

2 goals down the right hand side again, always been our weakest side of the park with him as a starter. 

What was he doing for the 2nd last night? Standing in the middle marking no cunt waving his arms about.

Please get so far to fuck.