Drunk and disorderly. 15,074 Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 30 minutes ago, Jamie0202 said: Are you judging a player on their performance or on the value of the car they drive? 😂😂😂 Tam Mon tae fuck Why can't Tav just drive a 1000cc Ford Fiesta Ecoboost like me... Despise him!. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 55,327 Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 "Disappointing" as he likes to say. Bears r us 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovenkraaands 142 Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 I don’t think I’ve ever criticised Tav on this forum because I believe we have much deeper lying issues, but that was such a poor performance. How many simple passes did he fail to execute? He had two shots on goal in the first-half and not one hit the target; one in particular almost cleared the stand. I get the impression the intention was for him to move on, but that hasn’t materialised, so we’re now in a situation where our captain’s head most probably isn’t “in it”. ayrshireranger and BlueAvenger 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cascadeshrimp 1,544 Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 He's the weakest link in our side and has been for a wee while now Can't even do the basics anymore and either his confidence or his head is gone, as shown in his "shots" yesterday Can't pass can't tackle can't block crosses can't attack can't shoot can't hit a dead ball anymore(see his corners for proof) What is he bringing to the table? nothing Anyways.... disappointing and we pick ourselves up and go again FFS five stars and HG5 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueboyG 5,481 Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 We had an offer on the table for him did we not and we rejected it, did we want more or did Tav not fancy playing in Turkey ? Either way its only going one way for Tav at Rangers, Clement needs to be ruthless for Tavs sake, the teams sake and his own credibility. five stars, HG5, cascadeshrimp and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovenkraaands 142 Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 He won’t be dropped, absolutely not a single chance of that happening. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NixonRFC 1,575 Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 Have to admit it must be hard for Tav mentally, captaining one of the biggest clubs in the UK, and in a time when their fiercest rivals have had unparalleled success, many would argue that he's one of the reasons for their unparalleled success, and I wouldn't disagree with that, would bring a pressure and burden like not many of us could understand, but all the pressure, criticism and abuse has been so constant for so long, it's going to catch up with someone eventually, and it looks like like this is now that time. That's not a defence of him or his captaincy, more just an acceptance of what guys in that position let themselves in for, not many unsuccessful captains would still be here after so many years so it's hard to compare him to others, maybe our version of Paul McStay, think he had one trophy in 7 years as their captain, although he was a protected species as far as criticism went. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers_no1 34,476 Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 2 hours ago, Lovenkraaands said: I don’t think I’ve ever criticised Tav on this forum because I believe we have much deeper lying issues, but that was such a poor performance. What previous poster are you? J-Maestro and starofdavid 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
five stars 1,767 Posted August 18 Author Share Posted August 18 1 hour ago, NixonRFC said: Have to admit it must be hard for Tav mentally, captaining one of the biggest clubs in the UK, and in a time when their fiercest rivals have had unparalleled success, many would argue that he's one of the reasons for their unparalleled success, and I wouldn't disagree with that, would bring a pressure and burden like not many of us could understand, but all the pressure, criticism and abuse has been so constant for so long, it's going to catch up with someone eventually, and it looks like like this is now that time. That's not a defence of him or his captaincy, more just an acceptance of what guys in that position let themselves in for, not many unsuccessful captains would still be here after so many years so it's hard to compare him to others, maybe our version of Paul McStay, think he had one trophy in 7 years as their captain, although he was a protected species as far as criticism went. Back to the here and now. He's nowhere near good enough. We're unlikely to win anything with him in the team. He could potentially cost Clement this job if he sticks with him. HG5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovenkraaands 142 Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 3 minutes ago, Rangers_no1 said: What previous poster are you? I’m not; I only joined this forum in April or May. I used to use FollowFollow years ago, but was banned for criticising Charlie Adam. That’s my recollection of it anyway. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NixonRFC 1,575 Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 13 minutes ago, five stars said: Back to the here and now. He's nowhere near good enough. We're unlikely to win anything with him in the team. He could potentially cost Clement this job if he sticks with him. Agreed with all of that, what I'm saying is I can understand why the pressure of leading us could take it's toll on him to the point where he's at now. five stars 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberfeldyBlue 1,872 Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 Bored watching him if im honest and if I never have read another pointless, vacuous programme notes again from him it will be too soon may as well print a picture of zippy from Rainbow than read that shite week in week out (that isn't his fault its the fault of the club ) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Maestro 13,898 Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 19 hours ago, The Godfather said: He was as big a reason as anyone we got to that final. He's no villain. The managers picking him, he shouldn't be but he is. That's not Tavs fault. With how often Sterling is out, don't see who else can play there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 75,665 Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 2 minutes ago, J-Maestro said: With how often Sterling is out, don't see who else can play there. At this point we have to be looking into the youth. Tav offers absolutely nothing now. He's got zero pace, looks terrified on the ball, when he does get it he is making back passes or playing us into trouble. He doesn't look fit or interested anymore. He can't just play because there's no one else, his form is that bad. Not just for us but for him as a footballer and legend it just can't go on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Maestro 13,898 Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 Just now, The Godfather said: At this point we have to be looking into the youth. Tav offers absolutely nothing now. He's got zero pace, looks terrified on the ball, when he does get it he is making back passes or playing us into trouble. He doesn't look fit or interested anymore. He can't just play because there's no one else, his form is that bad. Not just for us but for him as a footballer and legend it just can't go on. Devine is the best youth RB we have just now too, not sure who is better between him and Tav. I agree I think he is completely done, if we can get some more energy in the middle would like Sterling moved to RB, won a ridiculous amount of duels when playing on his wrong side(despite some iffy positioning). Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackAlex93 12,501 Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 He looks absolutely done. Can't be bothered watching him for another season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunglasses Ron 2,625 Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 Clement needs to address the Tav situation and urgently. He can’t keep ignoring the elephant in the room. Drop him and replace him with Dujon or whoever. Just get off the pot. Hadron Collider 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeguy 65 Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 Is he due a testimonial? Is he holding out for a payoff due to this? Either way his time is done and needs to go. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacky Bear 971 Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 Few issues Wants a big and final pay day. Pace has gone and can't defend at all, now pulling out tackles as he knows that would be curtains. No influence going forward at all now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadron Collider 32,337 Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 We can’t have him against the scum. Suicide. Will get roasted. Fuck it, we can’t have him against any team anymore. Such a liability now. Sell if possible please. HG5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer 11 2,847 Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 Enough is Enough RJMcGregor 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moody Blue Legend 63,373 Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 17 minutes ago, The Hammer 11 said: Enough is Enough Ross’s lawyer will be in contact in the morning. J-Maestro and HG5 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 32,410 Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 People have been moaning for 72 pages, me included, but what are the options? Sterling is needed in midfield. I believe the board and Clement expected him to leave this summer and the funds would have been used for his replacement. We are stuck with him, but he will be stripped of the captaincy at some point. HG5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyal72 13,605 Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 He was awful against St. Johnstone. Anytime he tried to make a pass he gave it away, anytime someone attacked him he struggled, didn't seem to make as many runs into crossing areas either. If his ability to run forward and get crosses in, is significantly diminished, he's finished. Will be a slog of a season, he'll take a lot of stick. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Maestro 13,898 Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 37 minutes ago, bluenoz said: People have been moaning for 72 pages, me included, but what are the options? Sterling is needed in midfield. I believe the board and Clement expected him to leave this summer and the funds would have been used for his replacement. We are stuck with him, but he will be stripped of the captaincy at some point. He won't be unless he leaves, even if he gets dropped he will remain the club captain and to be honest he should. I don't think changing captains cause someones over the hill ever works. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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