Leftpegcoopz11 4,899 Posted Sunday at 20:59 Share Posted Sunday at 20:59 Just now, Siam69 said: The winner of Spain and Germany will win the tournament. Can see a Spain v England final, and Spain to win. That's me joanerrd they two teams now Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.E.C. 19,155 Posted Sunday at 21:03 Share Posted Sunday at 21:03 When did Germany last beat Spain? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaiserJon 12,547 Posted Sunday at 21:08 Share Posted Sunday at 21:08 2014 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkylineBlue 24,745 Posted Sunday at 21:10 Share Posted Sunday at 21:10 @Negri's lovechild 's neighbour to the weans. Blueshoff, STEPPS BOY, Negri's lovechild and 1 other 1 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
real boydie9 18,169 Posted Sunday at 21:25 Share Posted Sunday at 21:25 Southgate has been England's best manager for 40 or 50 years. Fuck sake. Gary Neville talking more shite. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negri's lovechild 14,769 Posted Sunday at 21:27 Share Posted Sunday at 21:27 16 minutes ago, SkylineBlue said: @Negri's lovechild 's neighbour to the weans. Guys house is going to look like the UN building by the time this tournament is finished 🤣 Helicopter Sundae, SkylineBlue and Leftpegcoopz11 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negri's lovechild 14,769 Posted Sunday at 21:27 Share Posted Sunday at 21:27 1 minute ago, real boydie9 said: Southgate has been England's best manager for 40 or 50 years. Fuck sake. Gary Neville talking more shite. I think Gary is better on Dragons Den tbh real boydie9 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 72,553 Posted Sunday at 21:51 Author Share Posted Sunday at 21:51 25 minutes ago, real boydie9 said: Southgate has been England's best manager for 40 or 50 years. Fuck sake. Gary Neville talking more shite. Is he not? Is there any other managed managed a WC semi and Euros final? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negri's lovechild 14,769 Posted Sunday at 22:09 Share Posted Sunday at 22:09 16 minutes ago, ForeverAndEver said: Is he not? Is there any other managed managed a WC semi and Euros final? It's a weird one isn't it? He's almost universally panned for his cautious play but then he's managed in a WC semi and Euros final which indicates success, but has he got there because of the talent at his disposal or because of his talent as a manager? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McEwan's Lager 31,174 Posted Sunday at 22:15 Share Posted Sunday at 22:15 5 minutes ago, Negri's lovechild said: It's a weird one isn't it? He's almost universally panned for his cautious play but then he's managed in a WC semi and Euros final which indicates success, but has he got there because of the talent at his disposal or because of his talent as a manager? He's widely regarded to have at least got all the players under his command pulling in the same direction, which nearly every England manager of the last 30 odd years has failed to do. Negri's lovechild 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
real boydie9 18,169 Posted Sunday at 22:17 Share Posted Sunday at 22:17 21 minutes ago, ForeverAndEver said: Is he not? Is there any other managed managed a WC semi and Euros final? Do you think he's a better manager than Bobby Robson or Terry Venables? If Neville would have said "successful" fair enough, but not best. BookWorm, Laudrupsleftfoot and TheKingObv 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Maestro 12,108 Posted Sunday at 22:20 Share Posted Sunday at 22:20 2 minutes ago, real boydie9 said: Do you think he's a better manager than Bobby Robson or Terry Venables? If Neville would have said "successful" fair enough, but not best. I mean what other metric can you use? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McEwan's Lager 31,174 Posted Sunday at 22:23 Share Posted Sunday at 22:23 8 minutes ago, real boydie9 said: Do you think he's a better manager than Bobby Robson or Terry Venables? If Neville would have said "successful" fair enough, but not best. Robson failed to qualify for Euro 84 and then lost all 3 games at Euro 88. Venables was in charge for one tournament cycle and failed to make the final of a home Euros. Stuggled against Switzerland and the first half against Scotland, then scraped past Spain on penalties then bottled it v Germany. Literally had one decent result in his entire reign, win against Holland in the last group game. J-Maestro 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 72,553 Posted Sunday at 22:23 Author Share Posted Sunday at 22:23 3 minutes ago, real boydie9 said: Do you think he's a better manager than Bobby Robson or Terry Venables? If Neville would have said "successful" fair enough, but not best. Robson failed to qualify for 84, and got knocked out the 88 groups losing to Ireland as well. Can’t really argue with his WC record. Venables managed in one tournament, and done well. Don’t think it’s a bad opinion to say Southgate’s been their best manager. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McEwan's Lager 31,174 Posted Sunday at 22:28 Share Posted Sunday at 22:28 If we are talking about the best manager talent wise to have managed England then it's either Sven, Robson or Capello, but none have as good a record as Southgate in charge of England. J-Maestro and Negri's lovechild 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
folkestoneger 8,560 Posted Sunday at 22:44 Share Posted Sunday at 22:44 31 minutes ago, Negri's lovechild said: It's a weird one isn't it? He's almost universally panned for his cautious play but then he's managed in a WC semi and Euros final which indicates success, but has he got there because of the talent at his disposal or because of his talent as a manager? It’s a bit like Moyes at West Ham, reasonably successful but slaughtered for the standard and style of play with everyone believing the group of players would do better if allowed to express themselves. Negri's lovechild 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 72,553 Posted Sunday at 22:53 Author Share Posted Sunday at 22:53 7 minutes ago, folkestoneger said: It’s a bit like Moyes at West Ham, reasonably successful but slaughtered for the standard and style of play with everyone believing the group of players would do better if allowed to express themselves. England players are actually good. West Ham’s out with 4 or 5 are average. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 31,369 Posted yesterday at 00:04 Share Posted yesterday at 00:04 Southgate was ten seconds away from getting fired and now he is the best English manager in the last 40 years. I've heard it all now. BlueAvenger and Colin Traive 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.E.C. 19,155 Posted yesterday at 05:13 Share Posted yesterday at 05:13 7 hours ago, real boydie9 said: Southgate has been England's best manager for 40 or 50 years. Fuck sake. Gary Neville talking more shite. Pretty sure he has the best knockout record out of every other England manager. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dummiesoot 16,142 Posted yesterday at 08:47 Share Posted yesterday at 08:47 3 hours ago, G.E.C. said: Pretty sure he has the best knockout record out of every other England manager. He is a jammy bastard that gets the easiest of routes to the latter stages, it does not make him the best, Bobby Robson and some other head and shoulders above Southgate Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 72,553 Posted yesterday at 08:59 Author Share Posted yesterday at 08:59 11 minutes ago, dummiesoot said: He is a jammy bastard that gets the easiest of routes to the latter stages, it does not make him the best, Bobby Robson and some other head and shoulders above Southgate Bobby Robson wasn’t even good enough to get out a group stage in the Euros. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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novosleftboot 6,334 Posted yesterday at 09:06 Share Posted yesterday at 09:06 Any success England has had recently has been despite Southgate, not because of him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Hobbs 2,448 Posted yesterday at 09:49 Share Posted yesterday at 09:49 47 minutes ago, ForeverAndEver said: Bobby Robson wasn’t even good enough to get out a group stage in the Euros. To be fair it was an 8 team Euros back then with only two going through to the semis. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 72,553 Posted yesterday at 09:55 Author Share Posted yesterday at 09:55 5 minutes ago, Roy Hobbs said: To be fair it was an 8 team Euros back then with only two going through to the semis. Managed 3 losses whilst Ireland got a win and a draw though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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