Petition for the boys banned after Kilmarnock.

[eastwoodbear 94]

On 17/11/2019 at 16:08, GeeSS said:

Point missed totally.  We should be leaders setting examples a class above the others that’s what being a Ranger is about  both on and off the field   

Maybe in days gone by but times have changed.

[ger4life_1872 29,638]

Shite from the club but to be expected 

[BLUEDIGNITY 33,660]

21 hours ago, Scottywellhousetb said:

I fucking hate you with passion and I don't even know you.

I’dve been proud of that one myself 👍

[MayboleLoyal_atb 3,734]

Signed

 

When I got banned I was told it was policy agreed by all SPL clubs to ban any fan who had been charged with an incident at a game even before it had went to court 

[MisterC 12,305]

1 minute ago, MayboleLoyal_atb said:

Signed

 

When I got banned I was told it was policy agreed by all SPL clubs to ban any fan who had been charged with an incident at a game even before it had went to court 

Shocking. Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty?

[ger4life_1872 29,638]

36 minutes ago, MayboleLoyal_atb said:

Signed

 

When I got banned I was told it was policy agreed by all SPL clubs to ban any fan who had been charged with an incident at a game even before it had went to court 

That's a shambles 

[Cedrick 8,048]

On 17/11/2019 at 09:26, GeeSS said:

That is not correct  only a moron jumps on top of a disabled shelter!  The pitch invasions are over celebrating  and while no one set out to cause trouble it’s against the law we don’t do it at Ibrox so it’s not acceptable away from home 

Stepping on the shelter is the only way for the row behind to escape an emergency in that stand , no way it should be collapsing like that , the players are hugely responsible for the fans reaction, they were almost in the stand all of which was down to the excitement of the last minute winner that absolutely no one should be banned for 

[The Dude 20,026]

13 hours ago, MisterC said:

Shocking. Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty?

That only applies to the law. A company has no such burden. If they don't want you in their stadium while you await an outcome to criminal charges then that's entirely their right.

[1690tamRFC 5,001]

47 minutes ago, The Dude said:

That only applies to the law. A company has no such burden. If they don't want you in their stadium while you await an outcome to criminal charges then that's entirely their right.

Being “their right” doesn’t automatically make it the right thing to do though. 

[The Dude 20,026]

10 minutes ago, 1690tamRFC said:

Being “their right” doesn’t automatically make it the right thing to do though. 

It's an incredibly common thing. No different to an employer suspending you pending an investigation into a disciplinary.

Tbh, I've no issue with the club revoking tickets from anyone awaiting criminal proceedings. It's pretty standard. It's how they act when any are cleared that's the real test.

[Escobar 13,676]

8 minutes ago, The Dude said:

It's an incredibly common thing. No different to an employer suspending you pending an investigation into a disciplinary.

Tbh, I've no issue with the club revoking tickets from anyone awaiting criminal proceedings. It's pretty standard. It's how they act when any are cleared that's the real test.

To be fair if these boys were waiting to go to court for attempted murder in the stadium then it’s more understandable. Banning people for being 5-6 feet on the pitch for less than a minute is the issue.

[The Dude 20,026]

40 minutes ago, fanaticCR said:

To be fair if these boys were waiting to go to court for attempted murder in the stadium then it’s more understandable. Banning people for being 5-6 feet on the pitch for less than a minute is the issue.

True, but the club will look at is as an alleged offence which took place inside the ground so will want to be seen to be dealing with any 'disorder' inside stadia.

[Escobar 13,676]

13 minutes ago, The Dude said:

True, but the club will look at is as an alleged offence which took place inside the ground so will want to be seen to be dealing with any 'disorder' inside stadia.

So glad they are on top of going against supporters any opportunity that arises yet let everycunt else away with murder. 

[pcbear 10,924]

I would suggest that if someone can be arsed setting it up, a little fund to pay for a bit of legal representation, so the correct procedure is done correctly.

I would chip in for that.

[Heshootshescores 1,905]

Blanket bans such as this don't represent justice, which is why the law doesn't use them, its the stuff of school playgrounds. Its no way to treat loyal customers and that should mean more to our club than most given the loyalty that the fans have shown the club over the past 7 years. 

It's not too late to do the right thing. 

[The Dude 20,026]

38 minutes ago, Heshootshescores said:

Blanket bans such as this don't represent justice, which is why the law doesn't use them, its the stuff of school playgrounds. Its no way to treat loyal customers and that should mean more to our club than most given the loyalty that the fans have shown the club over the past 7 years. 

It's not too late to do the right thing. 

The law does similar. Anyone held on remand before trial is essentially being punished before guilt is established.

[GOAT 30,449]

Even if they are found guilty, guilty of what?  Running on the trackside and celebrating with our own players and fellow supporters of a last minute winner?  Fuck off, disgraceful it’s even came to this.  Police Scotland are a fucking joke. 

[GOAT 30,449]

On 17/11/2019 at 16:08, GeeSS said:

Point missed totally.  We should be leaders setting examples a class above the others that’s what being a Ranger is about  both on and off the field   

Let’s all stand and clap a jolly good goal old chap. 

[Bobby Hume 13,163]

On 15/11/2019 at 19:56, Mr Soprano said:

As some of you may be aware, Rangers Football Club have banned anybody who has been charged by Police Scotland in relation to the celebrations after Connor Goldson’s winner during the above fixture. It is worth noting that not only have these boys had their season tickets withdrawn without any compensation, they do not accept any guilt, nor have they been found guilty in a court of law, yet RFC are judging them guilty until proven innocent. We are urging the club to overturn these over zealous decisions, until/if any convictions are made.

Speaking personally, some of these boys have had season tickets for over a decade, followed us during the years which followed administration, all over Scotland and in Europe when qualification came. They are not only disappointed, but extremely saddened that the club have opted to act in this manner.

I plead with anyone who wants to help the affected to please sign the petition below. Your time and signatures are extremely appreciated.

https://www.change.org/p/Rangers-fc-for-Rangers-fc-to-revoke-club-bans-handed-to-supporters-for-kilmarnock-away-04-08-2019

[Perth_Campsie_Ger 18,032]

https://www.change.org/p/Rangers-fc-for-Rangers-fc-to-revoke-club-bans-handed-to-supporters-for-kilmarnock-away-04-08-2019/u/25434313?cs_tk=AsWnNJUkjnHEGzuE6V0AAXicyyvNyQEABF8BvMfycinkyIZFUec3rMl_r_Q%3D&utm_campaign=b1228d9e957f4a60971aa4b35441a3d6&utm_medium=email&utm_source=petition_update&utm_term=cs

Update

2 DEC 2019 — 

All of those who were banned by the club and also had a football banning order (FBO) in Scotland as a result of the police investigation have since had their temporary FBO’s removed in a court of law when pleading either guilty or not guilty.

The condition in each of these cases involves not attending a regulated football match at Rugby Park.

As a result of this, Rangers should revoke the club bans, re-allocate season tickets and re-instate members on the relevant CCCS schemes that they were removed from.

The law deems each of these loyal supporters fit to attend matches so therefore Rangers should reward their loyalty and refrain from such punishments until, if, a fan is found guilty of these in a court of law.

All that Rangers would be required to do is not ballot the accused fans for the match against Kilmarnock away from home In February.

[CoatbridgeBear 7,113]

3 minutes ago, Perth_Campsie_Ger said:

https://www.change.org/p/Rangers-fc-for-Rangers-fc-to-revoke-club-bans-handed-to-supporters-for-kilmarnock-away-04-08-2019/u/25434313?cs_tk=AsWnNJUkjnHEGzuE6V0AAXicyyvNyQEABF8BvMfycinkyIZFUec3rMl_r_Q%3D&utm_campaign=b1228d9e957f4a60971aa4b35441a3d6&utm_medium=email&utm_source=petition_update&utm_term=cs

Update

2 DEC 2019 — 

All of those who were banned by the club and also had a football banning order (FBO) in Scotland as a result of the police investigation have since had their temporary FBO’s removed in a court of law when pleading either guilty or not guilty.

The condition in each of these cases involves not attending a regulated football match at Rugby Park.

As a result of this, Rangers should revoke the club bans, re-allocate season tickets and re-instate members on the relevant CCCS schemes that they were removed from.

The law deems each of these loyal supporters fit to attend matches so therefore Rangers should reward their loyalty and refrain from such punishments until, if, a fan is found guilty of these in a court of law.

All that Rangers would be required to do is not ballot the accused fans for the match against Kilmarnock away from home In February.

Agree with all of that bar re-instating them to the cccs, the schemes hard enough as it is  

[ForeverAndEver 71,687]

Good.

Hope to fuck the club do the right thing

[Bobby Hume 13,163]

1 hour ago, ForeverAndEver said:

Good.

Hope to fuck the club do the right thing

It would be good PR if they did remove the Club ban from these fans .... now is the time to get this petition into Ibrox and let the Club know that removing the Club ban is the right thing to do ..... Fuck me ... it's one of the very very rare occasions we have actually won in a court of law.

Surely even DK would sanction this victory for common sense by giving the lads a pardon .... 

[Willis 20,919]

On 18/11/2019 at 14:36, MisterC said:

Shocking. Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty?

It is bullshit but I can see the reasoning behind it, if someone was due to appear in court next week and then they get arrested again for a similar offence it reflects badly on the Club and leaves them open to criticism from.the media

[ForeverAndEver 71,687]

30 minutes ago, Willis said:

It is bullshit but I can see the reasoning behind it, if someone was due to appear in court next week and then they get arrested again for a similar offence it reflects badly on the Club and leaves them open to criticism from.the media

They’ve literally got a convicted stalker who is the cause of a couple stopping attending, going to games with no ban.