Boxing and MMA

[TheKingObv 10,646]

it'll be tough. He's really a middleweight who struggles to make 154lbs, and will find it a lot harder and more draining to make 152.

[Ricky_ 893]

he couldn't make 150lb for a catchweight vs Matty Hatton 3 years or so ago, so 152 i think will be a struggle for him. He looked dry as hell vs Trout at the weigh-in. Hopefully he's not having to cut into and starve off lean muscle. In that case the fight could turn farcical if Canelo shows up looking like DeLaHoya did for Pacquaio. I'd rather Canelo just gets to maybe 153.5 lb and pays a financial penalty for the extra weight... after all, thats the stunt Floyd pulled against Marquez.

[Gillete 1,338]

Has mayweather not said that it's 152 or nothing (fight postponed if not)

[Ricky_ 893]

Has mayweather not said that it's 152 or nothing (fight postponed if not)

nah he's not said anything official other than his short statement that he chose Alvarez. If Alvarez shows up on the scale before the fight at 153 it will be interesting to see what Floyd does. Cancel the fight after showtime, Mayweather Promotions & Goldenboy have spent millions putting on the fight? And after probably 1m + PPV's have been sold and about 4 or 5 episodes of 24/7 have been filmed and aired?

All for the sake of 1 pound or a pound and a half.... i think Floyd would be backed into a corner and just have to accept the financial penalty, he would look like the biggest bitch ever if he called it off.

[JamieD 18,949]

nah he's not said anything official other than his short statement that he chose Alvarez. If Alvarez shows up on the scale before the fight at 153 it will be interesting to see what Floyd does. Cancel the fight after showtime, Mayweather Promotions & Goldenboy have spent millions putting on the fight? And after probably 1m + PPV's have been sold and about 4 or 5 episodes of 24/7 have been filmed and aired?

All for the sake of 1 pound or a pound and a half.... i think Floyd would be backed into a corner and just have to accept the financial penalty, he would look like the biggest bitch ever if he called it off.

What does he care about more though, his record or his reputation? People have accused him of ducking for years and it doesn't seem to have bothered him.

[Ricky_ 893]

What does he care about more though, his record or his reputation? People have accused him of ducking for years and it doesn't seem to have bothered him.

Floyd cares about his reputation, his '0' and money. He's given alot of pretty defensive and aggressive interviews over the last few years when questioned about his 'legacy' and the Pacquaio non-fight.

How you rank the above 3 in terms of importance to him, his rep probably comes 3rd. Money and his '0' are probably on a par, he weighs them up... he walked away from about $100m instead of fighting Pacquiao, looks like his 0 is worth that i guess.

There's been alot of rumours that the PPV numbers for Guerrero bombed and Showtime made a hefty loss on the promotion. Guerrero was pretty much unheard of to the more casual fan and was only a viable opponent for Floyd because he beat Berto get himself into the 'madatory' position. Canelo was where the money was at but he went with the much lower risk Guerrero. Personally i think Showtime have pushed Floyd on this fight, if it was up to him i think he would have the front to actually go and fight someone like Devon Alexander.

[Gillete 1,338]

I'm sure we will find out more in the next few wks

I'm really hoping its got a good undercard as the last one wasnt that great

They should stick khan on it or one of the British fighters to generate more interest from this side of the Atlantic

Would love to see golovkin in the undercard , possibly against a world title holder

[Gillete 1,338]

Dp

[bdog19 16]

Showtime reportedly lost around $12m on Mayweather-Guerrero, which is one reason why I think this fight with Alvarez is happening now rather than next May. Floyd-Guerrero Reportedly done 875k on PPV according to some people and Showtime's break even point was meant to be around 1.25m buys.

[Gillete 1,338]

Just saw that mayweather v ODH was 2.7m buys on HBO

That's incredible

Might struggle to beat that

[bdog19 16]

Just saw that mayweather v ODH was 2.7m buys on HBO

That's incredible

Might struggle to beat that

I reckon around 1.7 on Showtime.

[Skelf 1,153]

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[Skelf 1,153]

Watched Marquez vs Barrera on boxnation today. What a fight that was. Ill tell you what a prime Marquez at super featherweight would have given mayweather a run for his money had they crossed paths at same time

[Ricky_ 893]

Watched Marquez vs Barrera on boxnation today. What a fight that was. Ill tell you what a prime Marquez at super featherweight would have given mayweather a run for his money had they crossed paths at same time

i watched that about 2 weeks ago on youtube funnily enough. Ref kinda lost control at the JMM knockdown, he didn't count Marquez because he didnt really think it would be fair after the late punch. Stupid for Barrera, what woul have been an 10-8 in his favour ended up a 10-8 against him... that's a 4 point swing!

disagree about Floyd though, if Floyd caught Marquez at the lower weights it would have been closer than the fight they did have, but Floyds too rangey for Marquez who likes to counterpunch. Stylistically, it's an ightmare for him. Floyd pot-shots him on the outside forcing Marquez to engage and get countered himself.

[Skelf 1,153]

i watched that about 2 weeks ago on youtube funnily enough. Ref kinda lost control at the JMM knockdown, he didn't count Marquez because he didnt really think it would be fair after the late punch. Stupid for Barrera, what woul have been an 10-8 in his favour ended up a 10-8 against him... that's a 4 point swing!

disagree about Floyd though, if Floyd caught Marquez at the lower weights it would have been closer than the fight they did have, but Floyds too rangey for Marquez who likes to counterpunch. Stylistically, it's an ightmare for him. Floyd pot-shots him on the outside forcing Marquez to engage and get countered himself.

Was a shocking decision from the ref. a great right hand from Barrera that Marquez just never saw. Hopefully they start putting more fights like this on. Would like to see corralles and Castillo again Great fights

[OLE SUPER WILBERT 2,475]

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[Ricky_ 893]

Was a shocking decision from the ref. a great right hand from Barrera that Marquez just never saw. Hopefully they start putting more fights like this on. Would like to see corralles and Castillo again Great fights

Well you just gotta go with the best fights around at the time. I tend to think that time & nostaligia add a little to how we see old fights. Take Kirkland/angulo and Rios/Alvarado I for instance, right now you might not be thinking thats on a par with Castillo vs Corrales or Gatti-Ward, but in 10 years we might htink 'damn i wish we had more fights like Rios-Alvarado'.

1 thing about Marquez though, is it sucks the guy only has a few fights left. His wars over the years have been something special. Barrera, Katsidis, Pacman etc...

[Mols94 3,669]

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[bdog19 16]

Dereck Chisora to fight Malik Scott on July 20th. Chisora has his hands full with this fight.

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[Creampuff 22,628]

Performance mode sent me back nearly a year to rumours of Khan-Hatton and got worried for a second .

[Skelf 1,153]

Performance mode sent me back nearly a year to rumours of Khan-Hatton and got worried for a second .

That got me aswel. For some reason it goes back to that particular day lol

[bdog19 16]

Apparently Khan will fight Alexander next.....in Dubai.

[Skelf 1,153]

Apparently Khan will fight Alexander next.....in Dubai.

A fight I give Khan every chance in winning

[Gillete 1,338]

Really good article on mayweather and SR Robinson

http://m.espn.go.com/extra/boxing/story?storyId=9330198