Juniorsparkie 491 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 1 hour ago, Turnberry18 said: That makes no sense, one if the strongest aspects of his game is his positional sense. Unfortunately for a Striker its not Goalscoring. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,610 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 5 minutes ago, Young Bob said: Not justify anything. Just pointing out how they fared. So would McCoist and Hateley have performed better than Garner in Warburtons formations and tactics?   How can anyone tell you that ? its impossible to tell. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Bob 1,360 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 5 minutes ago, Smile said: How can anyone tell you that ? its impossible to tell. Just like its impossible to tell if any player signed can play in the system unless they come from a team that plays the same way and they have been proven. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivybank 4,585 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 From a current player " he's the worst centre forward I've ever played with"" Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeeSS 512 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 1 hour ago, mearns loyal said: With the benefit of age I've seen worse... Who? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mearns loyal 2,715 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 Just now, GeeSS said: Who? I'll start with Ally Scott ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeeSS 512 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 Just now, mearns loyal said: I'll start with Ally Scott ... Scored more than Garner though and didn't cost a penny Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mearns loyal 2,715 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 1 minute ago, GeeSS said: Scored more than Garner though and didn't cost a penny I'll give you the cost ? But nine goals over three years ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al 55 9,269 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 Looked awful from day one, never improved, dont understand anyone who can see anything in there, baffling. He'd miss the same chances in a different system ffs stop clutching at straws. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bam74 985 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 7 minutes ago, mearns loyal said: I'll give you the cost ? But nine goals over three years ? No laughing matter. Garner can only dream of scoring 9 goals for us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perth_Campsie_Ger 18,006 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 Didn't play according to the bbc Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bam74 985 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 1 minute ago, Perth_Campsie_Ger said: Didn't play according to the bbc They were right Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albertz 78 918 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 1 hour ago, Young Bob said: Failed manager McCoist was brutal when he signed. Hateley was the same. This guy has scored 100 goals in 300 games before coming to us. Did he play in teams where passing in nice wee formations and keeping possesion were paramount for those 100 goals? The majority of his goals have been in the third tier of English football. At championship level his goals per game ratio is decidedly average. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Bob 1,360 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 5 minutes ago, Albertz 78 said: The majority of his goals have been in the third tier of English football. At championship level his goals per game ratio is decidedly average. Yes. Another point. We sign guys from Accrington and Preston and expect them to play like they are international class. Last season  I was told I knew nothing about the lower tiers of English football and it was full of gems. Warburton, McParland and myself have something in common. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creampuff 22,628 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 I still think there's a player in there. A £2m player? I'm not so sure, but a better player than the one we're currently seeing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopCat 4,511 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 1 minute ago, Creampuff said: I still think there's a player in there. A £2m player? I'm not so sure, but a better player than the one we're currently seeing. He's been very unlucky not to score more imo.Even the best strikers need a wee rub of the green to get their name on the scoresheet. At least he gives 100% in every game which is more than can be said for some of the imposters that have played for our club in recent times. I still think he can come good and go on to become a fans favourite. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,610 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 1 hour ago, Young Bob said: Just like its impossible to tell if any player signed can play in the system unless they come from a team that plays the same way and they have been proven. A good player can adjust to any system unfortunately for us Garner seems a one trick pony. Plus he's 29 this year so will be tougher to change his style of play. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bam74 985 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 1 minute ago, TopCat said: He's been very unlucky not to score more imo.Even the best strikers need a wee rub of the green to get their name on the scoresheet. At least he gives 100% in every game which is more than can be said for some of the imposters that have played for our club in recent times. I still think he can come good and go on to become a fans favourite. Aye, along with Halliday and Kiernan. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al 55 9,269 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 5 minutes ago, Creampuff said: I still think there's a player in there. A £2m player? I'm not so sure, but a better player than the one we're currently seeing. I respect you opinion and I admire your optimisim, usually after 6 months theyve showed something other than willingness. Hes decent in the air, rolls about the ground more than Halliday and second touch is a header. I just dont see it, as much as I want to. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeirFleckNRothen 1,789 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 All the e-Guardiolas suggesting that he needs a partner or doesn't suit the system talk shite. He misses sitters. I can't remember the exact circumstances surrounding it, the highlights will show it when BBC Sport release them, but he had a fantastic opportunity this afternoon and he didn't even get a shot away, ending up on his hands and knees. A different system or playing partner can't change that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnberry18 3,204 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 23 minutes ago, Creampuff said: I still think there's a player in there. A £2m player? I'm not so sure, but a better player than the one we're currently seeing. Maybe it's just a matter of a couple of goals over a few matches. Strikers go through phases like this, even the best of them, the problem is that we can't really go on much to gauge how good he actually is. It seems as if in every match he plays he has real goalscoring opportunities, and never far from scoring, and yet he doesn't score them. Hopefully he does and it was just a matter of confidence all along. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HG5 11,134 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 Today's misses were nothing to do with 'playing with someone else upfront' or not - just a guy short of fitness, confidence &, possibly, ability. No excuses like lack of service - he missed 3 great chances when well placed, for some or all of the reasons above. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
james_85 656 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 I think there's a player there and I think he's been abit unlucky. If you look at Mr 40 million from the east he came in and got a few goals in his first few games and now he's a world beater. Garner came in and we have struggled which puts more pressure on him. If he could get a wee spell of a goal in 2 or 3 games in a row we may see a different player Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutton2008 646 Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 On 04/02/2017 at 10:20 PM, Albertz 78 said: The majority of his goals have been in the third tier of English football. At championship level his goals per game ratio is decidedly average. It's well below average. It's average for a centre half Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hilts 12,819 Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Looks clueless in front of goal a lot of the time. There was a chance he wasted on Saturday where he had all the space and time he could've asked for, but still punted it straight at their keeper. Odd signing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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