pcbear 10,924 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 14 minutes ago, The Dude said: Fits with what I've heard. I wouldn't be too surprised if we made one last pitch for him. He's the one the board want (moreso than any of the managerial candidates) to lead the revamp of the football side of things and they don't seem to be taking no for an answer yet. From what I can gather, it's not anything that we've not offered that's caused Wilson to drag his feet but more him wanting to make sure he does what's right for him, his family and his career. Being a fairly local boy if this goes tits up for him here it will affect more than just his professional life. He certainly seems torn between what he has and what he could have, how much higher could he go at Southampton? Come to us and have pretty much free reign to revamp the football club top to tail, it's a big job, way bigger than anything he has taken on before, he is obviously a career driven guy and I think this will be really hard to knock back. I don't have a clue about his personal circumstances (kids settled at school, home loving wife etc etc) it will all have a bearing on his decision. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack The Flipper 5,936 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 56 minutes ago, Lloyd72 said: He did his coaching badges here I'm sure so I don't think saying he has no knowledge of it is right. If we get this guy he'll have my full backing. I wouldn't say that like you're something quite out the ordinary. We will all give him full backing if he is indeed our new manager, however, this does not mean we cannot be critical of the decision to give him the job over the others being mentioned. This is something @Bluepeter9 finds extremely hard to comprehend - you can be critical and a fan at the same time. The Godfather, RFCRobertson, A.T.G and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 No. If we don't get him it doesn't look like it will affect the manager appointment. We asked for recommendations of the types of coach they would want to work with and then the club looked at them on the strength of that and weighed them against the other candidates. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,863 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 If he's knocked back the 2nd offer then we should move on we don't need to be begging any cunt Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prso's headband 35,956 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 I think people are getting mixed up with knowing Scottish football and knowing what Rangers are all about. If we limit to knowing Scottish football we limit ourselves to managers like McInnes, McLeish and Wright. There is a difference from that to knowing Rangers. MW didn't and underestimated the whole thing. We need someone who understands winning is everything. Rangers needs standards which are unique in world football. That's what the new manager needs to understand completely otherwise he fails at the very first hurdle. It's knowing when the going gets tough to grind out wins, when were not playing good we still find ways to win 3 points. None of this it's just another game pish, when a point away from home is acceptable, when a 5-1 doing constitutes "nobody died" comments. Gurlyblue, BridgeIsBlue, jintybear and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,863 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Go and get Mitchell Rangers! I've moved on quickly Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lloyd72 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 2 minutes ago, Jack The Flipper said: I wouldn't say that like you're something quite out the ordinary. We will all give him full backing if he is indeed our new manager, however, this does not mean we cannot be critical of the decision to give him the job over the others being mentioned. This is something @Bluepeter9 finds extremely hard to comprehend - you can be critical and a fan at the same time. Didn't mean it like that mate I don't think I'm anything out of the ordinary with that, what would have been better to say was I'll give him some time but you know there will be a lot of people on here especially who will not just because he isn't a big name manager. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 3 minutes ago, pcbear said: He certainly seems torn between what he has and what he could have, how much higher could he go at Southampton? Come to us and have pretty much free reign to revamp the football club top to tail, it's a big job, way bigger than anything he has taken on before, he is obviously a career driven guy and I think this will be really hard to knock back. I don't have a clue about his personal circumstances (kids settled at school, home loving wife etc etc) it will all have a bearing on his decision. I don't think it's as much how high can he go there as how low can it go here. He's still relatively unestablished within the game and knows that anything but success here could have huge ramifications for his career. If things at Southampton stop going so well he's not likely to be finished within football but if he comes here and it doesn't go as planned it could really harm his career prospects. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDFM 3,809 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Poch has never won a major honour as a manger so it's not exactly a great comparison. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prso's headband 35,956 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 4 minutes ago, The Dude said: No. If we don't get him it doesn't look like it will affect the manager appointment. We asked for recommendations of the types of coach they would want to work with and then the club looked at them on the strength of that and weighed them against the other candidates. So is Pedro essentially liked by Wilson and Mitchell then? I can't see the board appointing a manager that the DOF doesn't like if Wilson doesn't take it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lloyd72 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 1 minute ago, RDFM said: Poch has never won a major honour as a manger so it's not exactly a great comparison. His work with a Southampton and spurs has been brilliant imo despite not having won a major honour Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,863 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 1 minute ago, The Dude said: I don't think it's as much how high can he go there as how low can it go here. He's still relatively unestablished within the game and knows that anything but success here could have huge ramifications for his career. If things at Southampton stop going so well he's not likely to be finished within football but if he comes here and it doesn't go as planned it could really harm his career prospects. So lets get this right he's doubting his ability to do the job? Knows he's got a nice number at saints out of the media spotlight and that'll do him nicely. seems that way Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Just now, Prso's headband said: So is Pedro essentially liked by Wilson and Mitchell then? I can't see the board appointing a manager that the DOF doesn't like if Wilson doesn't take it. I'm not sure about Mitchell but don't believe there's any objection to it. Prso's headband 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prso's headband 35,956 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Just now, The Dude said: I'm not sure about Mitchell but don't believe there's any objection to it. Ok I see. Well that's a plus point. It means if Wilson doesn't take it then Pedro can still come in and we aren't back to the start looking for a DOF and manager who go hand in hand. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,863 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 1 minute ago, The Dude said: I'm not sure about Mitchell but don't believe there's any objection to it. It's 100 question dude your handling it well hahahaha mind let us know when your away for yer tea break Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Just now, KingKirk said: So lets get this right he's doubting his ability to do the job? Knows he's got a nice number at saints out of the media spotlight and that'll do him nicely. seems that way No. He's questioning the risk to his long term career in football if he isn't given the proper tools to work with/is continually bypassed as DoF like Gordon Smith/uprooting his young family to the other end of the country. With such a fairly short career in the game so far a failure here could be the end of him at the top level. At 34 thats a BIG gamble for him to take. William McBeath and KingKirk 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 2 minutes ago, KingKirk said: It's 100 question dude your handling it well hahahaha mind let us know when your away for yer tea break It's coming soon. I've got a pot of homemade soup on that's almost ready. KingKirk and To Be A Ranger 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDFM 3,809 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 15 minutes ago, Lloyd72 said: His work with a Southampton and spurs has been brilliant imo despite not having won a major honour Not saying he isn't a good manager but he's still never won a thing. Different standards etc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaiserJon 12,506 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Forgive me I am not being rude but how does the Dude know any of this info. Surely all he is doing is putting his own view on the info coming out of the press. If there is more to it forgive me. Apologies in advance if mistaken. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lloyd72 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 1 minute ago, badjon said: Forgive me I am not being rude but how does the Dude know any of this info. Surely all he is doing is putting his own view on the info coming out of the press. If there is more to it forgive me. Apologies in advance if mistaken. The Dude is Paul Murray Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcbear 10,924 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 54 minutes ago, The Dude said: I don't think it's as much how high can he go there as how low can it go here. He's still relatively unestablished within the game and knows that anything but success here could have huge ramifications for his career. If things at Southampton stop going so well he's not likely to be finished within football but if he comes here and it doesn't go as planned it could really harm his career prospects. He is prob not who we need if he is thinking so far ahead with ifs buts and maybes, Warburton will fall right back into the English scene without missing a beat after making a total balls up of his job near the end. 100% commitment is a given, I think we should move along. weshallnotbemoved! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears r us 31,000 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 7 minutes ago, Lloyd72 said: The Dude is Paul Murray The Dude 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 7 minutes ago, badjon said: Forgive me I am not being rude but how does the Dude know any of this info. Surely all he is doing is putting his own view on the info coming out of the press. If there is more to it forgive me. Apologies in advance if mistaken. I am the press...kinda...sorta. I've got more than a few mutual friends with Wilson and other 'sources'. I'm not one for ITK-type posts unless it's something I'm absolutely confident about and am willing to put my real name to (which I have) and take the professional consequences that would come with getting it spectacularly wrong. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 8 minutes ago, Lloyd72 said: The Dude is Paul Murray Fuck, don't say that. I've only just got folk to start visiting my site in decent numbers. If my true identity gets out that'll finish us. Bears r us and Loyal-Bear 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears r us 31,000 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 10 minutes ago, badjon said: Forgive me I am not being rude but how does the Dude know any of this info. Surely all he is doing is putting his own view on the info coming out of the press. If there is more to it forgive me. Apologies in advance if mistaken. I think Dude has certain contacts at the club, mainly due to his reporting on the under 20's, so I do take notice of what he says. The Dude and William McBeath 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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