waddel makes some valid points, while stirring the pot.

[backup 4,724]

Time for a few introductions. Rangers fans … meet the Foundation of Hearts. Meet the St Mirren Independent Supporters Association. Meet the Well Society. 

You’re bigger than all of them put together, three times over. You’re the second biggest shareholder in the second biggest club in the country. 

Yet they have something you don’t. Their clubs’ destinies in their own hands.

It’s time to ask yourselves – and ask them – how that happened. Then find a way of making it happen for you.

Because if you’re all still dumb enough to think the future of your own club should lie in the hands of Dave King or anyone remotely like him? 

Hell mend you.

Constantly filling all four sides of Ibrox like vulnerable chicks in a nest, mouths agape, waiting for daddy Dave to come home to feed you.

Then just accepting the shovelfuls of excrement he tips down your throat on a daily basis without question.

Will there never be a point where you choke on all the s***?

The permanently inane statements, the awful recruitment, the disgraceful handling of the Derek McInnes affair, the stupidity of undermining Graeme Murty last week, the pointless confrontations in court over the takeover.

Aided and abetted by Alastair Johnston trying to tell you you’ve never had it so good, that you should be grateful you’re “ahead of the curve”.

“We’re probably doing a little better than we imagined running out at Brechin in the fourth tier,” Johnston said.

Is he kidding? 

Six years to establish a new culture and a new baseline for a club with the second biggest budget in the country and they couldn’t foresee better than a battle to avoid fourth? There are amoeba with more vivid imaginations than that.

So how do you fix Rangers?

The saddest thing is that the answer is exactly the same as it was in 2012 – but they still haven’t figured it out. 

It doesn’t lie in sugar daddies or over-investing or chasing another club who are so far beyond your horizon you can’t even see their trail of dust. 

It doesn’t lie in the pie in the sky aim of stopping 10-in-a-row.

It lies in fundamentals. It lies in moving inch by inch forward rather than trying to take every short cut going and winding up further away than where you started.

The trouble was, no one asked the right questions at the start. Rangers had a blank sheet of paper but never established what they wanted a 21st century version of the club to look like. 

Instead, they defaulted to the old ‘We are the people’ sense of entitlement, the ‘We’re Rangers so will behave like Rangers’ mantra.

And they’re suffering the consequences for their lack of foresight.

But if the fans could find true leadership and cohesion it shouldn’t be too late for them to establish a new baseline.

If Hearts, St Mirren and Motherwell can find a sustainable model, then how can a club with 50,000 supporters there every home match not manage it?

Especially when their latent support is as substantial. 

I watched the Scottish Cup semi-final with celtic in a casino in Gold Coast, Australia, last week.

There were Gers fans there suffering every bit as much as those in the stands at Hampden. 

They still feel invested in their club, despite their disenfranchisement. That can still be harnessed.

What they must realise though is that sorting Rangers was – and still is – a long-term project. 

They can’t be gullible enough to think there’s a quick fix still just around the corner. They’ve wasted six years looking for a unicorn farting moonbeams and they can’t afford to waste any more.

They’re still built on shifting sands, despite all the promises.

In the past four years, the losses they’ve posted in their accounts go back £6.7m, £3.3m. £7.5m and £8.1m.

They still have in excess of £17m of ‘soft loans’ that they insist will be turned into equity as soon as they’re able to get a share issue off the ground.

Those aren’t the foundations for a great leap forward. So the fans have to mobilise, unify, find cohesion and leadership, and understand their own power.

Not just blindly renew their 40,000-plus season tickets. Their Union Bears are planning a silent protest for the Hearts game today – is it possible to make a morgue more quiet? – but they need their voices heard, not quelled.

The problem they’ve always had is not having a single voice to represent them. The establishment of Club 1872 was supposed to put paid to that, an amalgam of the Rangers Supporters Trust and RangersFirst, as a vehicle to buy up shares and create themselves a force.

But there’s still a bit of Monty Python about them – they’re still the Judean People’s Front one week and the People’s Front of Judea the next.

To be credible, they need a reliable figurehead to carry them forward. Hearts, St Mirren and Motherwell all say that establishing a unity of purpose was pivotal in them getting momentum.

Either way, they’re Rangers’ only road to salvation right now. Not King.

They require a sustainable template and getting it right – not getting it quick – should be their only focus. 

If they can get a membership scheme up and running, they can create a rock-solid bank of last resort for their club. 

The Foundation of Hearts transfers £1.5m a year into the coffers every year from 8000 members.

But Rangers fans need leadership. They’re getting none from the top, so they’re going to have to look within.

And instead of King being forced to offer to buy their shares, they should be trying to find a way to buy his.

[Guardian 4,281]

What a tool. 

There is a very simple reason the wee clubs can do the fan ownership thing better. It's all in the maths which this Diddy clearly wasn't good at in school. 

The cost of running Rangers per fan is far higher than it is for Diddy clubs. Buying the shares is merely the first part. 

I do agree the board is toxic but other than that he is talking pish.

[watpnosurrender 274]

i stopped reading at the point he decided to lie and say second biggest club cheeky bastard needs his jaw broken for that

[Straight-Edge-Loyal 6,686]

Fan ownership wouldn't work with us there is far to much division between our support. 

[orangecountry 148]

8 minutes ago, Guardian said:

What a tool. 

There is a very simple reason the wee clubs can do the fan ownership thing better. It's all in the maths which this Diddy clearly wasn't good at in school. 

The cost of running Rangers per fan is far higher than it is for Diddy clubs. Buying the shares is merely the first part. 

I do agree the board is toxic but other than that he is talking pish.

Totally agree but then how much more expensive per fan are we talking about? And is per fan per season ticket holder or per armchair fan?

[backup 4,724]

5 minutes ago, watpnosurrender said:

i stopped reading at the point he decided to lie and say second biggest club cheeky bastard needs his jaw broken for that

I would suggest he is talking finances as the article is mainly about wasted and promised finances that never materialised, you think he is wrong, he isn't.

[Theulstervolunteer 1,859]

He's a twisted fenian sanctimonious prick ...hardly worth a round of applause for pointing out the obvious ...

[big blue Fin 3,724]

37 minutes ago, Theulstervolunteer said:

He's a twisted fenian sanctimonious prick ...hardly worth a round of applause for pointing out the obvious ...

Face the fact that some of our support are so fucking stupid that they need the truth pointed out to them even if it is by a sanctimonious prick, fenian or otherwise.

Our chairman is a lying useless piece of shit who will succeed in turning Rangers into a St. Johnstone or Motherwell if he's not stopped and stopped soon. Whyte was a conman but dave the liar king is far far worse, he claims to be one of us, he promised the moon and stars while stripping the previous board and the club of desperately needed revenue and what has he accomplished?

FUCK ALL!!!

It hurts to read articles like the one at the start of this thread but by fuck surely It's worse to just calmly bury our heads in the sand and take it up the arse from a board so detached from reality that some of them think we're ahead of where we expected to be?

We were promised transparency all we can see is water so murky we may as well be face down in a sewage treatment plant.

 

[Big Al 55 9,252]

1 hour ago, Guardian said:

What a tool. 

There is a very simple reason the wee clubs can do the fan ownership thing better. It's all in the maths which this Diddy clearly wasn't good at in school. 

The cost of running Rangers per fan is far higher than it is for Diddy clubs. Buying the shares is merely the first part. 

I do agree the board is toxic but other than that he is talking pish.

Where have you been?

[sassaaaa 11,406]

Somebody move this shite or close it........

[Wil198 17]

The OP of this should be banned for life. I know we're all hurting after last week but what next? An article from Phil 3 names? 

[SheriffHood 536]

The only positive about that is at least they're starting to call king out for the lying cunt he is.

[Brubear 2,920]

I stopped reading at "second biggest club in the country"

[AlCapone 7,678]

29 minutes ago, Brubear said:

I stopped reading at "second biggest club in the country"

Third?

[thehost 11,061]

3 hours ago, Wil198 said:

The OP of this should be banned for life. I know we're all hurting after last week but what next? An article from Phil 3 names? 

Interesting first post. 

[harlands plater 16,981]

Rangers-hating, “Falkirk-supporting” fanny.

[backup 4,724]

Many empty seats today would suggest many agree with some points,people burying their head in the sand doesn’t change valid points, same people will wonder what happened if Murty starts next season still manager.

[KeyserSoze 14,545]

5 hours ago, backup said:

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I watched the Scottish Cup semi-final with celtic in a casino in Gold Coast, Australia, last week.

Two things:

this is the real reason for your post 

and your use of phraseology like “you” “you’ve” and “they” has shown something about you. 

[backup 4,724]

11 minutes ago, KeyserSoze said:

Two things:

this is the real reason for your post 

and your use of phraseology like “you” “you’ve” and “they” has shown something about you. 

You need to lay of the drugs and inventing posts, better still up your meds to help you hallucinate less ?

[Wil198 17]

1 hour ago, thehost said:

Interesting first post. 

It might be my first post but I've been reading this forum for years. Our support has to stop being divided and jealous of each other. We need to unite and, under no circumstance, publish this kind of hate filled rubbish!

[magic8ball 27,901]

6 hours ago, Straight-Edge-Loyal said:

Fan ownership wouldn't work with us there is far to much division between our support. 

I think the fact we would be looking for the fans to put in 2 or 3k a head in over and above season ticket money for an immediate cash injection for squad investment 

at the moment the fans aren't happy with 500 season ticket money 

 

 

[Bluenose88 132]

Thats just venomous.  Hard to believe that’s allowed to be published written that way. Then again, considering the source. 

[gj923 1,457]

48 minutes ago, Wil198 said:

It might be my first post but I've been reading this forum for years. Our support has to stop being divided and jealous of each other. We need to unite and, under no circumstance, publish this kind of hate filled rubbish!

Its not the best of journalism but the article makes a lot of valid points. Although there has been several different boards they both have one thing in common in that they have no clear direction or road map for the club. Some supporters accept that using the argument that no one is going to pour 10's millions into the club. However why can't we just be ran well with a proper independent board made up of major shareholders and qualified independent directors with a big hitting CEO with a proven track record. 

[Straight-Edge-Loyal 6,686]

1 hour ago, magic8ball said:

I think the fact we would be looking for the fans to put in 2 or 3k a head in over and above season ticket money for an immediate cash injection for squad investment 

at the moment the fans aren't happy with 500 season ticket money 

 

 

It is a pipe dream and will never happen and if it did it would be infested with the likes of Chris Graham and the Marshall arseholes with Fat Dingwall taking a share of the money at some point.

[NetherburnBear 173]

Nothing but scum propaganda, get it to fuck.