Billy1984 6,314 Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 The aim for any Rangers manager has to be the league title. Cups/European campaigns are nice but the league is the big one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBluebells 6,898 Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 Win the league, how anything less than that can be suggested is beyond me. How do you motivate a team if you aren’t demanding that they win the league? How will any players ever get it if they don’t know that second is as good as last for us? Anything less than the league is a failure and it’s that attitude that’s seen us win it 54 times. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,723 Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, Drunk and disorderly. said: Where did you get that from? I'm asking based on the thread title stating what would you take, ie minimum you'd accept. You agreed fuck accepting them getting 9 in a row. So if we don't win it within 2 years they've won their 9 which isn't acceptable. Isn't the logic to expect someone gone if they've not met what you deem acceptable? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plymouthranger 3,872 Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 Let's be honest, he has to win the league this season or next. I'd begrundginly accept 2nd this season if we won the cups and won at least a couple of the OFs. But the season after we'd have to win it. None of this 3 year pish Drunk and disorderly. and ritchieshearercaldow 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misteral 2,932 Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 Beat them 5-1 at least once and not losing to them 5-1 ever again, win the league obviously....... preferably more than once in the three years.........qualify for a European group stage......and at least two domestic cups. I'll take that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermopylae 15,286 Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 Rangers managers always have to win it's as simple as that Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theweebluenose 4,332 Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 We need the League by his second season at least, ideally sooner but considering the state our squad is we will need to see who comes in before we can see if that is realistic. We need to lift one of the Cups the upcoming season at least. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gersandy 594 Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 Win the league at some point in the next 3 seasons, that’s all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaunchLondonGer 1,651 Posted June 1, 2018 Author Share Posted June 1, 2018 58 minutes ago, TheBluebells said: Win the league, how anything less than that can be suggested is beyond me. How do you motivate a team if you aren’t demanding that they win the league? How will any players ever get it if they don’t know that second is as good as last for us? Anything less than the league is a failure and it’s that attitude that’s seen us win it 54 times. Not what I'm asking. Of course Gerrard and GM should be telling the team win EVERY game and beat celtic to this league at all costs. And of course we'll all be cheering them on to that end. What I'm asking is, given the gulf in player quality and finances, what would you realistically accept as progress for us over the next three years. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritchieshearercaldow 22,137 Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 Would be amazing if we won the league this season but we have to be on the scum’s coat tails and maybe jockeying for top position. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 5 hours ago, .Williamson. said: Realistically if he doesn't push them all the way next season and win a cup then he's gone. If we're well behind by Christmas he'll be gone before the end of January. Exactly. Talk of giving him three years is fucking nonsense. Our support will not sit by and watch celtic win 9-IN-A-ROW while happily keeping Gerrard in charge hoping he can stop a 10th. Gerrard needs to push celtic all the way in the title race immediately and we need to be far more competitive during the Old Firm encounters. If we get to Christmas and are out of the league race, have been beaten by celtic a couple of times, and been knocked out of Europe early, the support will have turned against him and there will be calls for him to be canned. Under McCoist it was "we don't do walking away". Under Warburton it was "send the fans home happy". Now Gerrard has given us "bring it on" and "let's go". All soundbites that don't mean a fucking thing if they can't get results on the pitch. .Williamson. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabc10000 5,061 Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 Is Gerrard the first manager in our history where he is realistically not expected to win the title? Regardless of where we finished last season surely that should have been a prerequisite of him taking the job? I know it's not always possible nor work out that way but it's disheartening reading guys happily accepting 2nd before a ball has even been kicked. As another poster sort out the atrocious home form and keep up the away form and we will win the title next season bar miracles so if we can strengthen the squad we have then, for me, the title is a very realistic target. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunk and disorderly. 14,421 Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 1 hour ago, Sportingintegritymyarse said: I'm asking based on the thread title stating what would you take, ie minimum you'd accept. You agreed fuck accepting them getting 9 in a row. So if we don't win it within 2 years they've won their 9 which isn't acceptable. Isn't the logic to expect someone gone if they've not met what you deem acceptable? If he is backed financially and doesn't manage it after 2 shots then I'd seriously revaluate the situation. That would depend how close we got points wise and wether he'd won us cups. Hopefully won't come to that though as the filth are nowhere near as good as they think they are. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,606 Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 Triple Treble or he's failed. TEFTONG 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaunchLondonGer 1,651 Posted June 1, 2018 Author Share Posted June 1, 2018 10 minutes ago, TMB said: Exactly. Talk of giving him three years is fucking nonsense. Our support will not sit by and watch celtic win 9-IN-A-ROW while happily keeping Gerrard in charge hoping he can stop a 10th. Gerrard needs to push celtic all the way in the title race immediately and we need to be far more competitive during the Old Firm encounters. If we get to Christmas and are out of the league race, have been beaten by celtic a couple of times, and been knocked out of Europe early, the support will have turned against him and there will be calls for him to be canned. Under McCoist it was "we don't do walking away". Under Warburton it was "send the fans home happy". Now Gerrard has given us "bring it on" and "let's go". All soundbites that don't mean a fucking thing if they can't get results on the pitch. If Gerrard is obviously floundering by Xmas and we are directionless on the pitch then agreed, it hasn't worked and he must go asap. However, if Gerrard can run them close in the coming season and then again next season (taking points off them along the way) and we can see the backbone of a strong team developing that is recognisably Rangers....would you rather bin him off and bring in some cunt like McInnes to try to stop 10? To win the league within the next three seasons represents success. I don't like it either, but it's reality. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al 55 9,252 Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 If we can't win title beat celtic 4 times and lose all 4 games to Aberdeen Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fantana 28,894 Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 5 hours ago, .Williamson. said: Realistically if he doesn't push them all the way next season and win a cup then he's gone. If we're well behind by Christmas he'll be gone before the end of January. exactly this. "Lets Go" as a rallying cry will become his last words to the taxi taking him away from Ibrox to the airport if he loses a few games early on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 82,210 Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 7 minutes ago, rabc10000 said: Is Gerrard the first manager in our history where he is realistically not expected to win the title? Regardless of where we finished last season surely that should have been a prerequisite of him taking the job? I know it's not always possible nor work out that way but it's disheartening reading guys happily accepting 2nd before a ball has even been kicked. As another poster sort out the atrocious home form and keep up the away form and we will win the title next season bar miracles so if we can strengthen the squad we have then, for me, the title is a very realistic target. Realistically he probably shouldn't be expected to win the title next season, but he is. As usual our support will be happy with everything until the first couple of bad results happen and then he'll start being pushed towards the door. Its how its always been and always will be rabc10000 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
standup 829 Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 He has been the Manager for 16 and a half hours and won fuck all. Pish. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_r_sole 366 Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 minimum 1 domestic cup next season, close second - then league next season, whether its realistic or not is neither here nor there, it needs to happen Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmcf 34,175 Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 From the off , I want to see a visible pattern of play that we can build on through the season . No more hoofing the ball up the park , no more desperate defending where kicking the ball anywhere will do . Instead , a fluent thought out system of play , that will improve as players get to know , both each other and SG's style of play . I'd like to see what money we have , spent on a few quality players in key positions , rather than spreading it over a major overhaul . That way we can have a nucleus of quality players , that we can add to as time passes by . No more embarrassing defeats , make Ibrox a fortress bringing back the fear factor to opponents , making a real game of it against the tarriers in every game should be a given . By the end of season 1 , we should at least be challenging for the league till the last game or two and hopefully a cup . The following season , with more quality added , and SG fully understanding the Scottish game , I'd expect to go the full hog and the League title . BlueKnight87 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 14 minutes ago, StaunchLondonGer said: If Gerrard is obviously floundering by Xmas and we are directionless on the pitch then agreed, it hasn't worked and he must go asap. However, if Gerrard can run them close in the coming season and then again next season (taking points off them along the way) and we can see the backbone of a strong team developing that is recognisably Rangers....would you rather bin him off and bring in some cunt like McInnes to try to stop 10? To win the league within the next three seasons represents success. I don't like it either, but it's reality. If Gerrard runs them close next season and there's obvious signs of improvement I think the fans would back him to stop the 9. If we're well adrift in the league (10 points or more) and are consistently losing to celtic I don't think he'll be here very long. There is a huge gulf on and off the pitch but we expect Gerrard to overcome this and win the league. The expectations are massive, the job is extremely difficult, Gerrard said he took the job confident he could meet the demands. I honestly have no idea what to expect from the upcoming season or where we'll be next summer. I think Gerrard will be a stroke of genius by the board, or a fucking disaster resulting in the board getting chased, I don't think there will be any middle ground. All we need is a competent manager in charge. Someone who has an eye for a player and who can properly organise a side to get results. Hopefully Gerrard can do that for us but having never managed before we just don't know what we're getting. StaunchLondonGer 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmcf 34,175 Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 4 hours ago, Bluepeter9 said: .. and you? - are prepared to give him that time? Astounding. Good man! I hope he wins every game and if he fails in the league folk will howling for his removal. Tut tut Bp9 , not like you at all Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
With Heart and Hand 8,949 Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 a cup and a close second and no pathetic defeats to the taigs, i dont expect us to win all 4 but at least the home games and to show some fight in the others, and no silly defeats to teams like killie and hamilton especially at home i think thats a realistic expectation this season Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spliffy 643 Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 Give us a team to be proud of this season, and if we don't win the league (in all likelihood) knocking them out of one of the cups has to happen. Don't even have to win, just stop the prospect of treble treble. Sad, but that's where we're at. Second season a serious, genuine title challenge and effort to stop the 9. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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