eejay the dj 31,964 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 56 minutes ago, ShanksRFC said: He proved me wrong on the 29th, I thought Tav was fucked mentally before he started a game against celtic. Hes a superb right back and I reckon worth around 10million. 20 million, not so much lol. I think I agree with this mate Won me over a lot too.Ok he needs to lift a trophy but I agree with the fee He is certainly worth upwards to 10million yeah I'm a hycoprite on this one 😉 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 47 minutes ago, eejay the dj said: I think I agree with this mate Won me over a lot too.Ok he needs to lift a trophy but I agree with the fee He is certainly worth upwards to 10million yeah I'm a hycoprite on this one 😉 Welcome. eejay the dj 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johanhentze 14,154 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 4 hours ago, ForeverAndEver said: People always mention Dembele’s price despite the fact he regularly scored in their big games Being a stiker and not a right back... How is Dembele getting along??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,636 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, johanhentze said: Being a stiker and not a right back... How is Dembele getting along??? Hopefully horribly with a bad injury Escobar 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johanhentze 14,154 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Just now, ForeverAndEver said: Hopefully horribly with a bad injury Point is... he went for a lot of money and he was average. They wanted him and paid top dollar. We have to do the same. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,636 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, johanhentze said: Point is... he went for a lot of money and he was average. They wanted him and paid top dollar. We have to do the same. Went for a lot, and he was better than average, still overrated. He had played Champions League and scored v PSG/Man City, and regularly against us, not that that was particularly hard. I don't disagree on wanting big money for Tavernier, especially now. jintybear and The No.9 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,881 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, ForeverAndEver said: Went for a lot, and he was better than average, still overrated. He had played Champions League and scored v PSG/Man City, and regularly against us, not that that was particularly hard. I don't disagree on wanting big money for Tavernier, especially now. People also need to remember that at 27 Tav is in his peak and it’s unlikely that he will improve much more. When clubs pay big money for people like Dembélé, Solanke and Gunn they are paying for their potential. The No.9 and ForeverAndEver 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
desire1689 8 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 1 minute ago, DBBTB said: People also need to remember that at 27 Tav is in his peak and it’s unlikely that he will improve much more. When clubs pay big money for people like Dembélé, Solanke and Gunn they are paying for their potential. That said ... least you know what you are getting with tav. Not his greatest fan but think he can and should still improve . His positioning is shocking and it shouldn't take too much to rectify it. He gets drawn to the ball like a moth to a light failing to appreciate the man he is meant to be marking is twenty yards or so away. I would certainly be looking at seven or eight million with maybe a potential add on ... For amount of games played for new club etc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaiserJon 12,405 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 4 hours ago, Rfc52 said: Looks like we are on for some fisty cuffs. Pm has been sent offering me out. Can see the cricket club getting reopened for this As long as it's the WOS in Patrick, will give my uncle the heads up. They are still shocked at the various RM meetings that have taken place. Fictitious meet ups impact on communities....😋 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,636 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 5 minutes ago, DBBTB said: People also need to remember that at 27 Tav is in his peak and it’s unlikely that he will improve much more. When clubs pay big money for people like Dembélé, Solanke and Gunn they are paying for their potential. Aye, even though Solanke's still really to be proven at professional level he's done a lot for England's youth Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaiserJon 12,405 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 1 minute ago, ForeverAndEver said: Aye, even though Solanke's still really to be proven at professional level he's done a lot for England's youth Was that actually about our ex England youth etc captain? Mad the money down here for "potential" Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhrfc 2,242 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 We should not be selling anyone in January that we do not want to offload because they are shit. Securing 55 in May is worth shit loads of money so now is not the time to even consider a sale. Get out clause: unless someone offers silly money and silly money is £12 million+ AND we are able to source a replacement at less cost. jackunion, jintybear, Geo17 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluchoo 846 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 3 hours ago, SkylineBlue said: I've already explained it in the very post you quoted. I'm not going to rephrase it, if you don't understand it, fine; we can move on. No i understand your reply, which agreed with me that Tav is not a £20 million player 😂 Move along now Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broxi 11,512 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 I really wish people would stop valuing players based on other ridiculous deals which were exceptions. Everyone knows £19m for Solanke was a stupid deal, that is not the normal standard of value. What about Premier League bargains? There's great players clubs have signed for a couple million, why not compare to those deals? Tavernier is not going to go for £20m - and I've always defended him and been a big fan of his since day 1. But it's mental how much people have sky rocketed our values because we won one Old Firm game. £9-12m would be a good deal for us. Any more is a welcome bonus but unexpected. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perth_Campsie_Ger 18,027 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 5 hours ago, andyhrfc said: We should not be selling anyone in January that we do not want to offload because they are shit. Securing 55 in May is worth shit loads of money so now is not the time to even consider a sale. Get out clause: unless someone offers silly money and silly money is £12 million+ AND we are able to source a replacement at less cost. Is it? I thought it was worth peanuts withbthe potential to make money via champions League Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 109,182 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 7 hours ago, johanhentze said: Being a stiker and not a right back... How is Dembele getting along??? Manager gas publicly backed him as he's been getting slaughtered. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcbear 10,924 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 A player is like a house/painting/car or whatever, the item is worth what someone is willing to pay, there is nothing stopping us valuing him at 20 million whether a suitable club does is ??? but it does not stop us asking for it. Some EPL club chairman flapping about losing the tv stupid money through relegation might think he is the man to keep them in the league, who knows. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johanhentze 14,154 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Rfc52 said: Manager gas publicly backed him as he's been getting slaughtered. The 20mill wonderkid? RFC55 and BridgeIsBlue 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johanhentze 14,154 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 2 hours ago, Perth_Campsie_Ger said: Is it? I thought it was worth peanuts withbthe potential to make money via champions League It IS potentially worth a helluva lot of money, which we are more likely to get with him in our team... therefore he is potentially worth a helluva lot of money to US! That is why it would be very stupid to sell him for 7 million...especially to the EPL which is full of cash......cash that just paid 19 million for Solanke, for instance. Bluekev 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 109,182 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 11 minutes ago, johanhentze said: The 20mill wonderkid? Yip Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valance1690 3,847 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 8 hours ago, andyhrfc said: We should not be selling anyone in January that we do not want to offload because they are shit. Securing 55 in May is worth shit loads of money so now is not the time to even consider a sale. Get out clause: unless someone offers silly money and silly money is £12 million+ AND we are able to source a replacement at less cost. Winning the league is massive to the fans/club but just winning the league itself (not getting to the group stages of the champions league) won't bring in a massive amount of money. That's where the taigs have got their money from, European runs, as shit as they may be in Europe, it still brings in alot of money. Selling Tav for 10 million would bring in more than winning the league would, sure its still only 2/3 million for the winners up here. Perth_Campsie_Ger 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johanhentze 14,154 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 7 hours ago, Broxi said: I really wish people would stop valuing players based on other ridiculous deals which were exceptions. Everyone knows £19m for Solanke was a stupid deal, that is not the normal standard of value. What about Premier League bargains? There's great players clubs have signed for a couple million, why not compare to those deals? Tavernier is not going to go for £20m - and I've always defended him and been a big fan of his since day 1. But it's mental how much people have sky rocketed our values because we won one Old Firm game. £9-12m would be a good deal for us. Any more is a welcome bonus but unexpected. We should be one of those Clubs making these ridiculous deals. Why give our players away for fuck all? We have let players go that go on to transfer for many millions later in their career... we need to make sure tht WE get the cash. 19 mill for Solanke is a stupid deal... or a brilliant deal. Nobody knows... he is an unknown quantity, really..and it proves the fact that they are willing to spend serious cash on a player that has never EVER proven a thing in his career. Matters fuck all to us though.. what DOES matter for us is.. that Tav is an integral part of our team and he is our Captain. That should never EVER be taken lightly. We should only sell for top dollar. He is worth a lot to US. These teams down south have a lot of cash, and if they really want him they can pay for it. Fuck getting fucked over by these teams. Geo17 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 65,049 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 1 minute ago, johanhentze said: We should be one of those Clubs making these ridiculous deals. Why give our players away for fuck all? We have let players go that go on to transfer for many millions later in their career... we need to make sure tht WE get the cash. 19 mill for Solanke is a stupid deal... or a brilliant deal. Nobody knows... he is an unknown quantity, really.. Matters fuck all to us though.. what DOES matter for us is.. that Tav is an integral part of our team and he is our Captain. That should never EVER be taken lightly. We should only sell for top dollar. He is worth a lot to US. These teams down south have a lot of cash, and if they really want him they can pay for it. Fuck getting fucked over by these teams. It's not as simple as that We play in a backwater and financially aren't in a position to demand ridiculous money Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johanhentze 14,154 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Jeffrey said: It's not as simple as that We play in a backwater and financially aren't in a position to demand ridiculous money There are a lot of backwater leagues in this world... you only need to look to Croatia and the likes. Teams over there sell players for fortunes. We can demand what we want.. its our player. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 65,049 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 7 minutes ago, johanhentze said: There are a lot of backwater leagues in this world... you only need to look to Croatia and the likes. Teams over there sell players for fortunes. We can demand what we want.. its our player. Croatia just made the world cup final so don't agree with that as an example but when do players from the likes of Croatia move for fortunes? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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