Robster 24 Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 As people have said premium rate for average players who have a good game against us need better plus the academy boys we have need to realise talent gets you so far but must have the desire and dedication to go that extra mile to make sure your ability stands out play every game as it’s your last once you win the battle your talent will show Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plymouthranger 3,909 Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 We should’ve moved for Allan Campbell when he was available on a free also, he’ll be an EPL player next season… Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
285miles 515 Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 3 hours ago, mitre_mouldmaster said: We would get Nisbet for £1.5m. We should sign him imo would be useful even as a 3rd striker otherwise he could end up with them Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 109,759 Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 3 hours ago, sco22y said: We have lost out on so many fantastic talents recently that have played in our league (Hickey, Ferguson, Doigde etc.), surely we need to learn from this. I'm thinking back to Neil McCann, Billy Dodds, Claudio Cannigia and Nacho Novo, to name a few, who delivered us titles. Van Veen, Shankland and Nisbet are know doubt a talking point but so too are many others? Sound ma man Gascoigne8, MisterC and TamCoopz 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaka 1,706 Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 2 hours ago, The Specky Non Liar - Sometimes said: Hickey is. Hickey would never have signed for us, even if we managed to get a bid accepted for him. People ignore the fact we often sign up the best young players in Scotland. It's just very few of them make it. Most of the "talent" we miss out on from the SPFL would never make our first team and would end up struggling to make our squad. OrangeRab 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albertz85 956 Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 3 hours ago, The Specky Non Liar - Sometimes said: Because the standard is the worst it has ever been outwith us being out of the top flight Nisbet is the only one even worth considering Couldnt agree more. In a year we came 2nd at a clear loss we had a very high points total for a runners up team. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albertz85 956 Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 3 hours ago, mitre_mouldmaster said: £1.2m i think Is he honestly the level we are aiming at. I hope not Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albertz85 956 Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 3 hours ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: I do think we'll get back to investing in the better young Scottish talent out there. But we're still not really in a financial position to be paying over the odds for the luxury right now. Plus Beale has to get winners in his squad and trophies in the cabinet more urgently than might be needed for some to make an impact with us. Doig is the one I liked. Would have happily taken him if we could have punted Borna. Lewis ferguson and hickey. Only ones I feel we should have pushed for Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyal72 11,802 Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 Mostly because the rest of talent in Scotland is utterly pish, and anyone with a chance of making it, we'll be charged over the odds for. The lesser clubs of this shite league prefer to sell to England and keep that monopoly going. Gascoigne8 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 54,115 Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 23 minutes ago, Albertz85 said: Lewis ferguson and hickey. Only ones I feel we should have pushed for Never saw it with Hickey if I'm honest. Rate him now though. Albertz85 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master_Betty 343 Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 If we shop around the spl then we get more Scott wrights. Albertz85 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,778 Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 37 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: Never saw it with Hickey if I'm honest. Rate him now though. Ferguson either for me, he was part of a sheep team that finished 9th last season while we were runners up in the europa league, imagine our fanbase if we signed Ferguson last summer instead of raskin (had kamara moved to nice) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 31,087 Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 I said at the time when Hickey was at Hearts, he was the player to go after. Everyone said he never played well against Rangers, which was true, but you could see the kid was a player. I also said back in the day to go after Nisbet when he was at Dunfermline and available for tuppence. I'm not sure I would pay the asking price for him now. To add... Cannigia was class. A great signing, despite my wife wanting to shag him every time we watched him. beararse and Albertz85 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,955 Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 2 hours ago, Jimbeamjunior said: Ferguson either for me, he was part of a sheep team that finished 9th last season while we were runners up in the europa league, imagine our fanbase if we signed Ferguson last summer instead of raskin (had kamara moved to nice) And now he’s part of a Bologna team doing well in a league much better than ours, while we spent a season with Kamara and Lundstram taking the piss out of us, and starting the likes of Davis and Arfield in the Champions League. demise 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,778 Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 11 minutes ago, ForeverAndEver said: And now he’s part of a Bologna team doing well in a league much better than ours, while we spent a season with Kamara and Lundstram taking the piss out of us, and starting the likes of Davis and Arfield in the Champions League. Aye we know our squad problems, we tried to rectify the kamara situation last summer, but theres still nothing to say ferguson would have been any better, he's playing in a much lesser pressured environment with likely more time to play football and doesn't come up against two banks of 5 only wanting to boot fuck out of you Bologna are in the bottom half with a GD of 3 and failed to win 24 games and people still lavish praise on him We dropped 2 points at easter road after collum cheated us and its a fucking meltdown in our fanbase Orangeclement 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunk and disorderly. 14,590 Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 Most of the SPFL talent are used to sitting back and timewasting against the Old Firm with the odd counter attack in the hope they can nick a point. Totally different style of play from us. It's a no from me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,955 Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said: Aye we know our squad problems, we tried to rectify the kamara situation last summer, but theres still nothing to say ferguson would have been any better, he's playing in a much lesser pressured environment with likely more time to play football and doesn't come up against two banks of 5 only wanting to boot fuck out of you Bologna are in the bottom half with a GD of 3 and failed to win 24 games and people still lavish praise on him We dropped 2 points at easter road after collum cheated us and its a fucking meltdown in our fanbase Ferguson would have had a better season than any midfielder that started the season, it’d be impossible not too If they win tomorrow which they have a fair chance of doing, they finish top half, only 8 points off of Europe. I don’t see the point in your last paragraph at all, well I do, but it’s stupid as fuck. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,778 Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 Just now, ForeverAndEver said: Ferguson would have had a better season than any midfielder that started the season, it’d be impossible not too If they win tomorrow which they have a fair chance of doing, they finish top half, only 8 points off of Europe. I don’t see the point in your last paragraph at all, well I do, but it’s stupid as fuck. You think ferguson would have been better than tillman? And as for the rest, aye they had fucking howling seasons for whatever reason, but the fact is we were never going to replace europa league runners up with a sheep player who massively under achieved last season And my last paragraph is about his performances for bologna, and how theres less pressure, they have literally dropped 60 points this season, we go into meltdown dropping 2, Playing for us pressure wise is much different, Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,955 Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said: You think ferguson would have been better than tillman? And as for the rest, aye they had fucking howling seasons for whatever reason, but the fact is we were never going to replace europa league runners up with a sheep player who massively under achieved last season And my last paragraph is about his performances for bologna, and how theres less pressure, they have literally dropped 60 points this season, we go into meltdown dropping 2, Playing for us pressure wise is much different, I forgot about Tillman tbf We’d be as well no signing most players then, because the pressure our players are under is massively different to most. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,778 Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, ForeverAndEver said: I forgot about Tillman tbf We’d be as well no signing most players then, because the pressure our players are under is massively different to most. Obviously not, but the sheep got 3mill or more for him, would you pay that for a player who just finished 9th in the team who were expected to finish 3rd (i know we bought matondo for that, so dont start lol) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,955 Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 1 minute ago, Jimbeamjunior said: Obviously not, but the sheep got 3mill or more for him, would you pay that for a player who just finished 9th in the team who were expected to finish 3rd (i know we bought matondo for that, so dont start lol) For Ferguson, I 100% would have aye. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TamCoopz 19,605 Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 We should sign Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer93 15,065 Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 7 hours ago, kanjo said: Because mostly it's over-vaulted. Diddy teams like the Sheep over inflate their prices and they mostly go on to become dogshite. No doubt there has been a couple of players that did go on to justify their price but majority do not. One that comes to mind the most just now is £2m rated Cosgrove. How can they over inflate a price for any player we have never bid for? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanjo 26,348 Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 3 hours ago, hammer93 said: How can they over inflate a price for any player we have never bid for? Would you have paid £2million for Sam Cosgrove? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted E Bayer 485 Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 13 hours ago, sco22y said: We have lost out on so many fantastic talents recently that have played in our league (Hickey, Ferguson, Doigde etc.), surely we need to learn from this. I'm thinking back to Neil McCann, Billy Dodds, Claudio Cannigia and Nacho Novo, to name a few, who delivered us titles. Van Veen, Shankland and Nisbet are know doubt a talking point but so too are many others? We have in the current squad in Souttar, Ryan Jack, Scott Wright and Glen Kamara. Gman36 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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