sco22y 280 Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 We have lost out on so many fantastic talents recently that have played in our league (Hickey, Ferguson, Doigde etc.), surely we need to learn from this. I'm thinking back to Neil McCann, Billy Dodds, Claudio Cannigia and Nacho Novo, to name a few, who delivered us titles. Van Veen, Shankland and Nisbet are know doubt a talking point but so too are many others? Juniorsparkie 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post .Williamson. 82,463 Posted June 3, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 3, 2023 Because they are mostly absolutely shite? I don’t feel we missed out by not getting any of the players you mentioned btw The Godfather, gazza27, AlbertzLoyalRSC and 10 others 13 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
superallysbears 7,624 Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 And because we'll pay way way over the odds. Albertz85 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangersross 6,530 Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 I think we’d very happily move for any SPFL players who were, 1) Good enough 2) Available at the right price The vast majority of players in Scotland aren’t good enough (like Van Veen) and, given that we’d have to pay more for Nisbet or Shankland than we did for Cantwell or Morelos, it’s just not the case that value is often out there for us versus other markets. graeme_4, AlbertzLoyalRSC, smartypants and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Specky Forum Organiser 64,995 Posted June 3, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 3, 2023 Because the standard is the worst it has ever been outwith us being out of the top flight Nisbet is the only one even worth considering Nk89, Bluekev, graeme_4 and 5 others 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitre_mouldmaster 21,509 Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, rangersross said: I think we’d very happily move for any SPFL players who were, 1) Good enough 2) Available at the right price The vast majority of players in Scotland aren’t good enough (like Van Veen) and, given that we’d have to pay more for Nisbet or Shankland than we did for Cantwell or Morelos, it’s just not the case that value is often out there for us versus other markets. We would get Nisbet for £1.5m. Bad Robot and five stars 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangersross 6,530 Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 5 minutes ago, mitre_mouldmaster said: We would get Nisbet for £1.5m. Thought I read Millwall’s total offer was >£2M. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitre_mouldmaster 21,509 Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 1 minute ago, rangersross said: Thought I read Millwall’s total offer was >£2M. £1.2m i think Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangersross 6,530 Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 9 minutes ago, mitre_mouldmaster said: £1.2m i think Fair enough. Must have misheard or seen the figure with the add-ons included. Arguably worth a punt around that price. As long as he doesn’t end up with them because he would score plenty of goals for either team. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 42,899 Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 Never good enough. Never missed out. graeme_4 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,765 Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 I do think we'll get back to investing in the better young Scottish talent out there. But we're still not really in a financial position to be paying over the odds for the luxury right now. Plus Beale has to get winners in his squad and trophies in the cabinet more urgently than might be needed for some to make an impact with us. Doig is the one I liked. Would have happily taken him if we could have punted Borna. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanjo 26,330 Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 Because mostly it's over-vaulted. Diddy teams like the Sheep over inflate their prices and they mostly go on to become dogshite. No doubt there has been a couple of players that did go on to justify their price but majority do not. One that comes to mind the most just now is £2m rated Cosgrove. Albertz85 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 42,899 Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 17 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: I do think we'll get back to investing in the better young Scottish talent out there. But we're still not really in a financial position to be paying over the odds for the luxury right now. Plus Beale has to get winners in his squad and trophies in the cabinet more urgently than might be needed for some to make an impact with us. Doig is the one I liked. Would have happily taken him if we could have punted Borna. Wouldn't be surprised if we made a move for him if they get relegated. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Maestro 11,166 Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 Too costly for how many don’t go on to achieve anything. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NeoGeo7 10,543 Posted June 3, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 3, 2023 Imagine listing caniggia as an spfl talent KaiserJon, bornabear, nelsonRFC82 and 14 others 17 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 64,995 Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 37 minutes ago, esquire8 said: Never good enough. Never missed out. Hickey is. Juniorsparkie 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernLights 2,526 Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 There are definitely good players to be had. Hickey/Doig, Ferguson, McKenna, Dykes, Campbell, McCann, and a few others over the last few years have been laughed at and called shite but would have been important parts of our squad and better than some of the players we’ve put out there. It’s just difficult to wade through the crap (and in some cases for fans to get over who the player is/who he supports). Edit: could probably throw Porteous in there too tbh Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6superbarry6 14,159 Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, NorthernLights said: There are definitely good players to be had. Hickey/Doig, Ferguson, McKenna, Dykes, Campbell, McCann, and a few others over the last few years have been laughed at and called shite but would have been important parts of our squad and better than some of the players we’ve put out there. It’s just difficult to wade through the crap. McKenna, Dykes, Campbell and McCann are shite bornabear, wully and GA1972 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernLights 2,526 Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, 6superbarry6 said: McKenna, Dykes, Campbell and McCann are shite McKenna and Campbell could be starting in the premier league next season. They’re better than some of the players we’ve given game time to Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RossS1873 1,669 Posted June 3, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 3, 2023 The Rangers support: 'The gap between the OF and the rest is bigger than ever' Also the Rangers support: 'Why don't we buy more SPFL talent?' The answer: Cause 95% of it is fucking shite and we'd be charged a premium to purchase the remaining 5% Loyal-Bear, docspiderman, 6superbarry6 and 7 others 10 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GersInCanada 7,775 Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 12 minutes ago, RossS1873 said: The Rangers support: 'The gap between the OF and the rest is bigger than ever' Also the Rangers support: 'Why don't we buy more SPFL talent?' The answer: Cause 95% of it is fucking shite and we'd be charged a premium to purchase the remaining 5% Agreed, Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,561 Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 36 minutes ago, NeoGeo7 said: Imagine listing caniggia as an spfl talent Id absolutely totally and undeniably never heard of him before he played for dundee Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossS1873 1,669 Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 6 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said: Id absolutely totally and undeniably never heard of him before he played for dundee Fucking comparing Claudio Caniggia to Kevin Van Veen. Honestly no wonder we are in the state we are when that's peoples idea of quality Jimfanciesthedude 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somemightsay7 2,413 Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 You've hand-picked the ones who have done alright, what about all the ones that have left and been terrible? Also in recent years we've brought in Souttar, Kamara, Wright, Jones, Hastie. 1 has been good but is now shite, another has been injured all season and might come good, the other 3 were rubbish. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
onlythestrongsurvive 1,007 Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 2 hours ago, sco22y said: We have lost out on so many fantastic talents recently that have played in our league (Hickey, Ferguson, Doigde etc.), surely we need to learn from this. I'm thinking back to Neil McCann, Billy Dodds, Claudio Cannigia and Nacho Novo, to name a few, who delivered us titles. Van Veen, Shankland and Nisbet are know doubt a talking point but so too are many others? Novo I'll give you because he came from the Spanish 2nd division into Scottish football, Cannigia holy fuck. fuck knows why he was at Dundee and we got him at 35 I think when he was past it (still great, but past it for him) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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