stuart1994 4,305 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 Probably not as good as some folk think and probably no where as bad as others think. ayrshireranger, AGM_72 and graeme_4 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackAlex93 11,378 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 17 minutes ago, G.E.C. said: Just think if it wasn’t for him we would be playing some crappy team in the Conference League. Just give it up mate 😂 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Maestro 11,218 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 28 minutes ago, BlueSuedeSambas said: That’s exactly why I raised the question asking if people would swap Lammers going out on loan for Kent coming in on loan the other day. I think if we can get a team to take Lammers on loan with them covering a percentage of his wages we will 100% look at a deal to bring Kent back with us covering a similar amount of his wages. Hasn’t Lammers already been involved in more goals than Kent last year? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.E.C. 18,856 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 16 minutes ago, JackAlex93 said: Just give it up mate 😂 Dortmund or FC Tractor mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al 55 9,281 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 Ah international break…now it makes sense of course Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post STEPPS BOY 74,211 Posted November 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 20, 2023 1 hour ago, BlueSuedeSambas said: That’s exactly why I raised the question asking if people would swap Lammers going out on loan for Kent coming in on loan the other day. I think if we can get a team to take Lammers on loan with them covering a percentage of his wages we will 100% look at a deal to bring Kent back with us covering a similar amount of his wages. I wouldn’t have Kent near the place tbh. If we bring Kent back then it just sums up the shambles that the club is. The Godfather, theiconicman, .Williamson. and 10 others 13 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackAlex93 11,378 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 37 minutes ago, G.E.C. said: Dortmund or FC Tractor mate. Regardless he's still shite and should be punted. Too many bang average footballers on our books that need to go Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,952 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 1 hour ago, STEPPS BOY said: I wouldn’t have Kent near the place tbh. If we bring Kent back then it just sums up the shambles that the club is. He would be, but I was meaning more the general point that that’s the sort of deal we are liked to be after. Like for like in terms of getting players out and replacing them with players in similar situations at other clubs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Brother 1,115 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 I do like him, always speaks well of the club and seemed genuine… However still not sure he’s good enough and the fact that is still questionable even though he has been with us for some time tells me he’s not, however none of our managers over that time have played him in his preferred position for a prolonged period of time, again pointing to the likelihood he is not good enough. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 74,211 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 46 minutes ago, BlueSuedeSambas said: He would be, but I was meaning more the general point that that’s the sort of deal we are liked to be after. Like for like in terms of getting players out and replacing them with players in similar situations at other clubs. I don’t expect anything other than loans but it’s got to be the right ones. I suspect it will be players that the manager has worked with in the past again, unfortunately. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perth_Campsie_Ger 18,032 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 4 hours ago, Blues Brother said: I do like him, always speaks well of the club and seemed genuine… However still not sure he’s good enough and the fact that is still questionable even though he has been with us for some time tells me he’s not, however none of our managers over that time have played him in his preferred position for a prolonged period of time, again pointing to the likelihood he is not good enough. Apparently he is that impressed with Rangers his dad's team has adopted a few of our traditions Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 34,675 Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 14 hours ago, STEPPS BOY said: I don’t expect anything other than loans but it’s got to be the right ones. I suspect it will be players that the manager has worked with in the past again, unfortunately. Think that’s fine short term, if he’s got a RW he’s worked with that knows his system, then great. That’s different to Beale’s ‘watched him as a youth a decade ago and he was decent then’ approach. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,952 Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 15 hours ago, STEPPS BOY said: I don’t expect anything other than loans but it’s got to be the right ones. I suspect it will be players that the manager has worked with in the past again, unfortunately. I think we will try and free up enough money to go after Shankland. Think he’s everything we need to get away from in terms of the profile of player we should be aiming to sign, but the noise about him doesn’t seem to be going away. OrangeRab 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Maestro 11,218 Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, BlueSuedeSambas said: I think we will try and free up enough money to go after Shankland. Think he’s everything we need to get away from in terms of the profile of player we should be aiming to sign, but the noise about him doesn’t seem to be going away. When was the last time we signed someone like Shankland? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 74,211 Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 9 minutes ago, BlueSuedeSambas said: I think we will try and free up enough money to go after Shankland. Think he’s everything we need to get away from in terms of the profile of player we should be aiming to sign, but the noise about him doesn’t seem to be going away. Again, if we pay millions for Shankland just shut the doors. Continually talk about this fourth pillar then, just like Dessers, spunk millions for a 29 year old. OrangeRab 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 74,211 Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 1 hour ago, graeme_4 said: Think that’s fine short term, if he’s got a RW he’s worked with that knows his system, then great. That’s different to Beale’s ‘watched him as a youth a decade ago and he was decent then’ approach. I’m not criticising Clement, it’s just where we are as no SD and basically Park and Craig Robertson as scouts. graeme_4 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 34,675 Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 11 minutes ago, J-Maestro said: When was the last time we signed someone like Shankland? Signed a 28 year old journeyman in the summer? If we were signing Shankland it should have been 5 years ago. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Maestro 11,218 Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, graeme_4 said: Signed a 28 year old journeyman in the summer? If we were signing Shankland it should have been 5 years ago. Signing a top scorer who knows the league. Can’t seriously be saying Shankland and a 28 year old Dessers without much record of scoring coming off a knee injury is the same? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 74,211 Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 13 minutes ago, J-Maestro said: Signing a top scorer who knows the league. Can’t seriously be saying Shankland and a 28 year old Dessers without much record of scoring coming off a knee injury is the same? How much re-sale value do either have? We’re looking at posting 8 figure losses next year due to gross mismanagement yet fans still think we should be spending millions on players with no resale value. Absolutely mental. OrangeRab 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,952 Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 38 minutes ago, J-Maestro said: When was the last time we signed someone like Shankland? A 28 year old striker who will turn 29 early into the season and provides no resale value whatsoever? We signed one of them in the Summer in Dessers. The board cannot keep coming out and talking about a player trading model and then continue to sign guys who are 28 plus for big money, especially somebody like Shankland who would come with the Rangers Tax price bump if we were to even enquire about him. OrangeRab 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 65,128 Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 Shankland is a no brainer for me and I used to be dead against signing him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,952 Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, The Specky Forum Organiser said: Shankland is a no brainer for me and I used to be dead against signing him. If that’s the case, and I think he would score goals for us, then the board need to stop coming out with statements about a player trading model then. They can’t keep talking out of both sides of their mouths like they have been when it comes to our recruitment policy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 82,705 Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 1 hour ago, BlueSuedeSambas said: I think we will try and free up enough money to go after Shankland. Think he’s everything we need to get away from in terms of the profile of player we should be aiming to sign, but the noise about him doesn’t seem to be going away. What noise about him? Fans on social media saying we should go for him? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,952 Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, .Williamson. said: What noise about him? Fans on social media saying we should go for him? Fans, fan media, ex players. His name isn’t going away. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 82,705 Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 Just now, BlueSuedeSambas said: Fans, fan media, ex players. His name isn’t going away. Same way it’s been the last few years then Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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