The Michael Beale Thread.

[Laudrupsleftfoot 11,216]

5 minutes ago, Bronzy said:

Simeone?

I knew I should have said bar Simeone. Telling given your extensive knowledge of European football and managers that you just came up with the one example though.

[BlueSuedeSambas 54,260]

9 minutes ago, Colin Traive said:

On a scale of one to ten, how reliable would you say this was?

It’s a WhatsApp message, so probably zero.

[Davy Vandenbroucke 26,354]

2 minutes ago, BlueSuedeSambas said:

It’s a WhatsApp message, so probably zero.

If he’s gone in the next 48 hours, I want admin powers.

[6superbarry6 14,232]

2 minutes ago, Laudrupsleftfoot said:

Because I think at 4 league games in after a rebuild we should give a bit more time to see if there’s an improvement.

And I’m genuinely worried about our options if he was replaced at this point in the season.

I think it’s more likely he turns this around than someone comes in now and turns the season around.

A LC win, good showing in the Europa and building momentum into the next game against them being the minimum acceptably

So we give him more time and he fails(which all the signs point to he will) then what? we have wasted any chance we have of salvaging the season, I am not prepared to write off another season for that fat smarmy sweaty scruffy cunt. 

[stuart1994 4,357]

2 minutes ago, Laudrupsleftfoot said:

Because I think at 4 league games in after a rebuild we should give a bit more time to see if there’s an improvement.

And I’m genuinely worried about our options if he was replaced at this point in the season.

I think it’s more likely he turns this around than someone comes in now and turns the season around.

A LC win, good showing in the Europa and building momentum into the next game against them being the minimum acceptably

Do you think he's capable of turning it round ?

[theblueoysterbar 19,773]

Give the guy a quarter and tell him to go downtown and get a rat to chew that thing off his face.

[Laudrupsleftfoot 11,216]

1 minute ago, stuart1994 said:

Do you think he's capable of turning it round ?

There’s a chance yes but he might not.

I think it’s more likely than not some of the players who haven’t been playing well will have an upturn in form. That should take care of things domestically for a while.

We’re a basket case of a club if we sack someone 4 league games in after giving them the guts of £15 million - I’m not convinced we’ll be an attractive option to any manager worth having at this point of the season and that worries me a bit more than giving Beale a bit more time. 

Just.

 

[NeoGeo7 10,613]

So Beale has no apparent style of play with the old squad, no apparent style of play with the new squad then proceeds to drop many of his signings and still no apparent style of play.

4 points behind after 4 games, scraping by in the league cup, and getting humiliated in the play-offs for UCL. No cup wins last year unlike Gio’s Scottish cup so he shouldn’t get as much time as Gio. If you could see what he was trying to do and it just wasn’t quite there then fine but to sign Danilo for £6m and then just put him on the bench then bring him on but play him wide, it’s bonkers.

Add to that his inability (or reluctance born out of pride and stubbornness) to make changes to his team at half time rather than waiting until 60 mins every game and even when these changes come about it’s more often than not a like for like change.

He then contradicts himself in interviews such as before the psv game saying we want something to take over there that’s why we are going on the front foot with a positive team, yet the team that was selected was set up defensively and sat off PSV. Likewise the game against them, their weakest area was at the back so let’s back off and let them play out with only Dessers jogging between the centrebacks. He is clueless and is taking us in one direction only….backwards

[Laudrupsleftfoot 11,216]

9 minutes ago, 6superbarry6 said:

So we give him more time and he fails(which all the signs point to he will) then what? we have wasted any chance we have of salvaging the season, I am not prepared to write off another season for that fat smarmy sweaty scruffy cunt. 

You want change without knowing what that change will be to.

 

[Davy Vandenbroucke 26,354]

10 minutes ago, theblueoysterbar said:

Give the guy a quarter and tell him to go downtown and get a rat to chew that thing off his face.

[Colin Traive 23,046]

8 minutes ago, Brackley Bluenose said:

I can’t believe people actually think the board might sack him 

Two things.

Firstly, the board will consider that they have done their bit in allowing him to  build virtually a new team. They won’t want to see the millions spent going to waste with an under achieving manager. You don’t spend a packet on new tools and equipment and then watch as the tea boy keeps fucking it up.

And secondly, the totality of the response from the support is overwhelming. There have been failures before but usually a core of our support will want patience and more time. Not on this occasion. If the fans are not actually 100% unanimous on this, they must be bloody close to it.

Normally I’d agree with you but this feels different.

[6superbarry6 14,232]

6 minutes ago, Laudrupsleftfoot said:

You want change without knowing what that change will be to.

 

Even if Beale starts winning I cannot watch his chronic football all season it is atrocious, there’s is absolutely nothing he can do to change my mind I want him gone and that’s it, I wanted gone after Rugby Park tbh. 

[BlueSuedeSambas 54,260]

As supporters we have seen this so many times now and I think that’s why the reaction was so strongly negative at full time, guys like David Edgar are openly calling for a change and we all know how close Heart & Hand is with the club and even though most of the journalists in Scotland are hacks, most of them have been around for long enough to know how the land lies, especially in Glasgow.

I don’t think he will leave right now, the board will feel they have to support him after the way they have backed him, but we are 100% on the home stretch with him as our manager.

[Colin Traive 23,046]

10 minutes ago, BlueSuedeSambas said:

As supporters we have seen this so many times now and I think that’s why the reaction was so strongly negative at full time, guys like David Edgar are openly calling for a change and we all know how close Heart & Hand is with the club and even though most of the journalists in Scotland are hacks, most of them have been around for long enough to know how the land lies, especially in Glasgow.

I don’t think he will leave right now, the board will feel they have to support him after the way they have backed him, but we are 100% on the home stretch with him as our manager.

You just have to hope that, when the dust settles after the inevitable happens, there is still something to play for this season.

The monumental banana skin awaiting Beale is the Livingston LC tie. To lose that (if he’s still here) would be immediately terminal and I’d be looking for an exit speech while the players are still in the shower.

[Loyal72 11,817]

That WhatsApp rumour seems to have taken off, although it's now involving Hibs wanting Beale 🤣

Fucking hours is all it takes for something to spread and grow.

[Rowley Birkin 9,153]

i think he'll be gone sooner rather than later, the board wil gave seen the shambles with keeping gio on for longer than needed and they can see the support wants rid of him ASAP

[GWR1979 1,970]

After seeing the fan reaction at the end of the game there is no chance he turns this round it looks like when rather than if. I hope we are decisive and there is another plan in place because hoping Beale wins the next big game doesn't fill me with confidence. He wasn't capable of making the necessary changes during the summer. the job is to big for him everyone can see it, just matters if the board will do what needs to be done. 

[bluenose48 952]

I doubt very much the board will sack him yet. After all they brought him in as our saviour and they backed him financially to bring in players he said we needed to bring us titles and Champions League improvement. To sack him now would be to admit they got it all horribly wrong and they won't admit that yet.

[BridgeIsBlue 66,639]

He still here? 

[real boydie9 17,867]

If we drop points against St Johnstone and Betis beat us comfortably, he'll be off, IMO. 

[Unionblue 3,765]

We'll end up with a half empty Ibrox if he stays,  no one wants to see that dross served up on the pitch

 

had his chance, fucked it, au revoir

[Paisley Blue Loyal 11,265]

10 minutes ago, real boydie9 said:

If we drop points against St Johnstone and Betis beat us comfortably, he'll be off, IMO. 

If we drop points against St Johnstone he shouldn’t even get back on the bus back down the road from Perth, Should just fuck off immediately.

[graeme_4 34,972]

6 hours ago, kris1984 said:

WhatsApp post suggest he’s gone. As much as I want it, can’t see it on his birthday. The morra surely.

Please be true.

Wont be though. 

[gmcf 34,516]

6 hours ago, Colin Traive said:

Two things.

Firstly, the board will consider that they have done their bit in allowing him to  build virtually a new team. They won’t want to see the millions spent going to waste with an under achieving manager. You don’t spend a packet on new tools and equipment and then watch as the tea boy keeps fucking it up.

And secondly, the totality of the response from the support is overwhelming. There have been failures before but usually a core of our support will want patience and more time. Not on this occasion. If the fans are not actually 100% unanimous on this, they must be bloody close to it.

Normally I’d agree with you but this feels different.

This , is why they won't , and while I also agree about your second point , having sold out STs , there isnt the same urgency to act , so I think the board will wait it out and hope things settle down after the initial anger.

I'll be surprised if he doesn't  get the Europa group stages and the next c....c game to see where we are.  

[BlueKnight87 17,390]

25 minutes ago, gmcf said:

This , is why they won't , and while I also agree about your second point , having sold out STs , there isnt the same urgency to act , so I think the board will wait it out and hope things settle down after the initial anger.

I'll be surprised if he doesn't  get the Europa group stages and the next c....c game to see where we are.  

He'll be here after the break. I honestly don't see him being here by the 2nd old firm.

The argument from the board will be the usual needs time and not wanting it to be knee jerk reaction. 

The issue is but Beale has been here several months and his big game record is horrendous. We are still wondering what he's trying to do tactically. Then the rebuild how can we be confident in our new signings when Beale doesn't appear confident using them in vital games. 9 signings this summer and Beale only started 3 in the last 2 games. 

I only see this getting worse if he's left in charge. Our support is very much unanimous he's got to go. The next set of dropped points and it will get a lot worse.