Roy Hobbs 2,180 Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 9 hours ago, beararse said: It’s not a promotion tho’ is it? He’s not being promoted ti Technical Director at Brighton. He’s being headhunted by Rangers for a role he hasn’t held before. He was Chief Scout at Swindon Town and the went from U21 recruitment manager to emerging talent scouting manager and finally head of recruitment at Brighton. The fact Brighton have both Head of Recruitment and a Technical Director suggests they do different things. A Football club’s Technical Director's responsibilities often include: 1. maximising football clubs' annual revenue 2. setting revenue targets for different operations, such as ticket or merchandise sales 3. negotiating annual player transfer and wage budgets with owners and first-team coaches 4. developing the club's playing style and coaching culture 5. recruiting players and managers whose football skills fit the club's sporting culture 6. negotiating in-bound and out-bound player transfers with other clubs 7. agreeing on shirt and stadium sponsorship deals with brands 8. setting up academies to develop young players 9. forming local or international scouting networks 10, managing relations with sport media 11. analysing commercial performance 12. fining players for breaches of contract I reckon 8 of the 12 responsibilities (highlighted in bold) are unlikely to be part of a Head of Recruitment’s responsibilities.skill set. Im not saying Jewell wouldn’t be a good appointment, I’m just curious as to why folk seem to think he’d be a good choice Technical Director based on the fact he’s been successful scouting and recruiting players. Beale was generally considered an excellent coach but he was a fucking awful manager. How many of the 8 were the responsibility of Wilson or Allen before him? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beararse 6,386 Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 3 hours ago, Broxi said: The point is for this type of role nobody knows one bit what the person has been doing on a daily basis or and how much success has been solely down to them. You have to assume the board will get references and do some research in circles where people do know. You’re the one who is more definitively saying it’s a bad move rather than everyone else saying it’s an amazing one. Most people are saying it’s an interesting link and nothing more. You can say you don’t want to hire someone less experienced and that’s fine, but your whole point has been that there is no logic or validity to young successful people moving up a position which just isn’t true. Simply say you don’t want that not that the entire logic isn't completely normal I never said the logic in appointing him was wrong, nor did I say Jewell wouldn’t be good at the role, i originally asked why he’s been offered the job when he’s not had that role before then countered folk saying it was a promotion. We tried that with a coach/inexperienced manager in Beale who was promoted above his abilities (22 games and winless in the last 5 at QPR) and given the need for stability I’d have thought we would have sought someone who has had the role of Technical Director rather than someone who hasn’t. Only one person has came up with a reasonable answer as to why we want Jewell: that being ‘we can’t afford someone already in that role’. Everybody else is just assuming he can make the transition because he’s excelled in another role within another organisation. Whilst there is an element logic to it (just as there was an element of logic in signing Lammers),in practical terms it feels like an unnecessary risk. it’s immaterial now anyway as it doesn’t look like he’s interested in the position but IMO we need an experienced Technical Director not a project one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Specky Forum Organiser 65,031 Posted October 19, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 19, 2023 CF4 said: Not like the club haven't denied something before only for it to actually be true. mdingwall said: They’d be extremely unwise to lie to me. Bears r us, bornabear, The Monk and 13 others 16 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyal72 11,309 Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 12 minutes ago, The Specky Forum Organiser said: CF4 said: Not like the club haven't denied something before only for it to actually be true. mdingwall said: They’d be extremely unwise to lie to me. 😂😂 Fucking hell. Everyone's been pied off by the club at different times, stuff gets denied and turns out to be true. Genuinely, who the fuck does he think he is? 😂 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle 53,647 Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 20 minutes ago, The Specky Forum Organiser said: CF4 said: Not like the club haven't denied something before only for it to actually be true. mdingwall said: They’d be extremely unwise to lie to me. Arrogant prick BookWorm 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Specky Forum Organiser 65,031 Posted October 19, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, Sparkle said: Arrogant prick Was only posting what he said. VanVeenRangers, Ben10, BookWorm and 5 others 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 42,976 Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 Mental how much he thinks he is relevant. When the day comes his obese walrus ass ends up packing in, the forum will shut down and no one will miss his photos of newspaper columns or give a single fuck. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyal72 11,309 Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 13 minutes ago, esquire8 said: Mental how much he thinks he is relevant. When the day comes his obese walrus ass ends up packing in, the forum will shut down and no one will miss his photos of newspaper columns or give a single fuck. Mad that he sits and does that 😂 buying all of the papers and taking pictures of the stories and headlines about us. It's 2023 and he's posting online to a digital platform...and thinks folk need photos of newspapers? 😂 bornabear and Rowley Birkin 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B1872 20,797 Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 Imagine the club or players came out with a 'pun' then they'd really be in trouble! Bears r us and KingKirk 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuel Sanders 1 Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 Appoint Claudio Raineri as director of football. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beararse 6,386 Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 11 hours ago, Roy Hobbs said: How many of the 8 were the responsibility of Wilson or Allen before him? No idea. Just going by the general responsibilities attributed to a technical director of a football club. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Hobbs 2,180 Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 29 minutes ago, beararse said: No idea. Just going by the general responsibilities attributed to a technical director of a football club. You really don't know if they were involved in commercial activities like sponsorship deals? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beararse 6,386 Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Roy Hobbs said: You really don't know if they were involved in commercial activities like sponsorship deals? I’d like to think they were but I have no idea what their exact responsibilities were. Not many on here will. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Hobbs 2,180 Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 24 minutes ago, beararse said: I’d like to think they were but I have no idea what their exact responsibilities were. Not many on here will. They'll have had absolutely zero to do with those responsibilities. There's a commercial director for that. The technical director will only be concerned with the football department and I'd be surprised if any technical director is dealing with commercial activities. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essandoh 21,223 Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 This is arguably more important than the managerial appointment. Our recruitment process and overall transfer model has been a shambles for years and years now. They may not have done far better (Beale would’ve done shite regardless) but I wonder how many of our previous managers would’ve faired with a reliable scouting network and recruitment knowledge to fall back on. There’s no doubt they’ve been consistently let down - that isn’t to say they don’t take some responsibility. The right appointment here could seriously stabilise us. BlueKnight87 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jela 20,376 Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 11 hours ago, B1872 said: Imagine the club or players came out with a 'pun' then they'd really be in trouble! He'll come for ye.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlbertzLoyalRSC 18,096 Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 11 minutes ago, Essandoh said: This is arguably more important than the managerial appointment. Our recruitment process and overall transfer model has been a shambles for years and years now. They may not have done far better (Beale would’ve done shite regardless) but I wonder how many of our previous managers would’ve faired with a reliable scouting network and recruitment knowledge to fall back on. There’s no doubt they’ve been consistently let down - that isn’t to say they don’t take some responsibility. The right appointment here could seriously stabilise us. Every appointment is a 50/50 gamble imo. Surely we are due a few to actually work now ffs. Sparkle 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle 53,647 Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, AlbertzLoyalRSC said: Every appointment is a 50/50 gamble imo. Surely we are due a few to actually work now ffs. We are overdue some luck AlbertzLoyalRSC and jamess 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jela 20,376 Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 11 hours ago, Loyal72 said: Mad that he sits and does that 😂 buying all of the papers and taking pictures of the stories and headlines about us. It's 2023 and he's posting online to a digital platform...and thinks folk need photos of newspapers? 😂 He was asking for money for posting those newspaper headlines btw. Wouldn't be surprised if some of his sycophants were willing to donate either. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaiserJon 12,405 Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 12 hours ago, The Specky Forum Organiser said: Was only posting what he said. Damn I was going to warn you off making a pun...😀 11 hours ago, B1872 said: Imagine the club or players came out with a 'pun' then they'd really be in trouble! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyal72 11,309 Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 22 minutes ago, King Jela said: He was asking for money for posting those newspaper headlines btw. Wouldn't be surprised if some of his sycophants were willing to donate either. He's becoming the Rangers version of that lot's "Dear Reader" cunt that was disenfranchised from his family. King Jela 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smell the hotdog 4,016 Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 42,976 Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 Souness allegedly away to be given a role in the board. According to Jim White anyway so might need to be taken with a pinch. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZZed 4,510 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Next to the Manager, this is a huge appointment. We need someone who knows what they are doing. Too many times we have ended up with duds in these important roles. Juniorsparkie 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkWalters11 0 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Clement should be allowed to make a recommendation of some Belgian or Dutch technical director. The relationship will be important. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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