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Perth_Campsie_Ger 18,107 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 30 minutes ago, Broxi said: Net increase of 600 seats to the stadium capacity On paper but how many seats are lost due to segregation at the away corner? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 72,245 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 3 minutes ago, RFC55 said: Magic mate thanks There’s an email here to do it through Rangers as well RFC55 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Community Note FC 8,829 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Bobby Hume and Sea Bear 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunglasses Ron 2,558 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Any pictures of what the new cantilevered bit will look like? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 75,138 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Prelude to us giving back the full Broomloan to the Shettlestons imo. gmcf, GA1972, Leighton loyal and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 35,375 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 23 minutes ago, Jelavic191 said: Easy to say when it won’t affect me but think this is the correct move in the long term Same. Good move for the club / atmosphere. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElBufalo20 7,994 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 The wee man gutted he won’t be holding up the Tifo anymore! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 43,690 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 11 minutes ago, Sunglasses Ron said: Any pictures of what the new cantilevered bit will look like? Just the rear of the stand now overhanging over the new disabled section. Diagram of it is linked in the previous page. Sunglasses Ron 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 43,690 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Wouldn't be surprised if there would've been a police issue if the move was just to the centre of the broomloan instead of the copland. They wouldn't want them that close to the away support, especially when the unwashed get the euro allocation. Good move by Bisgrove though. Brings the layout of the stadium and singing section into the 21st century. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacky Bear 918 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Assuming same extension to Broomloan eventually The 3d of actually is Broomloan Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionblue 3,893 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Singing section shouldn't be required, the whole fucking stadium should be bouncing every game and belting out the tunes, however, we are where we are, so its a good move, its time Ibrox was a cauldron of noise again, not just for Euro nights etc. Blacky Bear 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackAlex93 11,657 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 1 minute ago, Unionblue said: Singing section shouldn't be required, the whole fucking stadium should be bouncing every game and belting out the tunes, however, we are where we are, so its a good move, its time Ibrox was a cauldron of noise again, not just for Euro nights etc. Sadly that's modern football for you mate. Unionblue 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyal72 12,342 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 47 minutes ago, STEPPS BOY said: Prelude to us giving back the full Broomloan to the Shettlestons imo. Our fans aren't prepared to give up a full stand anymore. It doesn't happen anywhere else in football. Barca/Madrid don't get 8k. Man City/Utd don't get 8k. Liverpool/Everton don't get 8k. It does pave the way for a European Allocation though, as there'd be no ultras etc sitting next to visiting supporters, and less safety concerns for that lot to cling on to. MillwallLoyal, SeparateEntityMyArse and gmcf 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 72,245 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 29 minutes ago, Loyal72 said: Our fans aren't prepared to give up a full stand anymore. It doesn't happen anywhere else in football. Barca/Madrid don't get 8k. Man City/Utd don't get 8k. Liverpool/Everton don't get 8k. It does pave the way for a European Allocation though, as there'd be no ultras etc sitting next to visiting supporters, and less safety concerns for that lot to cling on to. Happens in Belgrade. You could have an 8k allocation for Barca/Real and it wouldn’t even get close to selling out Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyal72 12,342 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 1 minute ago, ForeverAndEver said: Happens in Belgrade. You could have an 8k allocation for Barca/Real and it wouldn’t even get close to selling out Does depend on the country too I suppose, away days aren't really a done thing in Spain. But in terms of other rivalries and derbies around the world, 8k to the visitors isn't really seen much as I've said. Following similar countries around us, a European Allocation of about 3,500 is decent/normal for that size of game. Plenty of teams came to Ibrox with those numbers and have generated noise etc. I honestly don't see a way back to them getting a full stand, displaces too many Rangers supporters. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,719 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 34 minutes ago, Loyal72 said: Our fans aren't prepared to give up a full stand anymore. It doesn't happen anywhere else in football. Barca/Madrid don't get 8k. Man City/Utd don't get 8k. Liverpool/Everton don't get 8k. It does pave the way for a European Allocation though, as there'd be no ultras etc sitting next to visiting supporters, and less safety concerns for that lot to cling on to. That's the major argument for it. That it makes the game distinctive. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RFC55 110,289 Posted January 4 Popular Post Share Posted January 4 4 minutes ago, Inigo said: That's the major argument for it. That it makes the game distinctive. Id rather keep it with 800 or at most euro allocations. they deny the fucking thing exists so why would we give them 8k seats? It’s one club who want that, there are 7k or so season ticket holders in Broomy now so they can get the euro allocation 800 or fuck all. SeparateEntityMyArse, Real Ranger, Bears r us and 5 others 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyal72 12,342 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 6 minutes ago, Inigo said: That's the major argument for it. That it makes the game distinctive. Not the norm anymore. We used to get literally half of each others stadiums, even going to Hampden, split right down the middle of the halfway line. That all changed, just like now there's no appetite to give up a full stand and displace our supporters anymore. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,719 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Just now, RFC55 said: Id rather keep it with 800 or at most euro allocations. they deny the fucking thing exists so why would we give them 8k seats? It’s one club who want that, there are 7k or so season ticket holders in Broomy now so they can get the euro allocation 800 or fuck all. I'm not saying we should. I'm just saying that it's the major argument for it rather than another argument against it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,719 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 4 minutes ago, Loyal72 said: Not the norm anymore. We used to get literally half of each others stadiums, even going to Hampden, split right down the middle of the halfway line. That all changed, just like now there's no appetite to give up a full stand and displace our supporters anymore. Yeah, we all know all of that. I'm not making an argument for it returning. I'm just pointing out that it being the only, or one of the only, major games that gives a big split was part of its distinctiveness and its appeal, not a negative. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyal72 12,342 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 1 minute ago, Inigo said: Yeah, we all know all of that. I'm not making an argument for it returning. I'm just pointing out that it being the only, or one of the only, major games that gives a big split was part of its distinctiveness and its appeal, not a negative. I think the genuine hatred gave it its appeal to be honest. Having no supporters at the game waters that down. The old firm was never about the quality of football for example, it's about beating those cunts and absolutely humiliating them, they probably feel the same. I don't think anyone from elsewhere ever tuned in thinking the football was on par with Barca-Madrid etc, but like River & Boca, you were getting two sides that absolutely hated each other, loaded tackles, red cards etc. European Allocation for both sides would restore it imo. At least partly. gmcf 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,719 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Just now, Loyal72 said: I think the genuine hatred gave it its appeal to be honest. Having no supporters at the game waters that down. The old firm was never about the quality of football for example, it's about beating those cunts and absolutely humiliating them, they probably feel the same. I don't think anyone from elsewhere ever tuned in thinking the football was on par with Barca-Madrid etc, but like River & Boca, you were getting two sides that absolutely hated each other, loaded tackles, red cards etc. European Allocation for both sides would restore it imo. At least partly. The genuine hatred expressed by a lot of people towards one another. Lots of derbies have genuine hatred, few have two large sets of fans going at it. The only one with the combative atmosphere between two sets of fans was ours. That's not the case any more. It's now far more like other hateful derbies, in an atmosphere sense. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 54,343 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 14 minutes ago, RFC55 said: Id rather keep it with 800 or at most euro allocations. they deny the fucking thing exists so why would we give them 8k seats? It’s one club who want that, there are 7k or so season ticket holders in Broomy now so they can get the euro allocation 800 or fuck all. This, all day long. Bears r us 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyal72 12,342 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 2 minutes ago, Inigo said: The genuine hatred expressed by a lot of people towards one another. Lots of derbies have genuine hatred, few have two large sets of fans going at it. The only one with the combative atmosphere between two sets of fans was ours. That's not the case any more. It's now far more like other hateful derbies, in an atmosphere sense. You don't need large numbers for it to be combative though, it still would be with the European Allocation for example. The SuperClasico is mental and they don't get as big allocations for away supporters. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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