graeme_4’s official Clement discussion thread

[HuistraHairDo 12,713]

On a shoogly now 

[STEPPS BOY 78,066]

Just now, BlueKnight87 said:

Beale had 15 points from 8 league games this stage last season. 

Clement has 16 points from 8 league games this season. 

Overall win percentages must be close.

Anyway, both are fucking terrible and should not be Rangers managers and ironically Aberdeen game was final straw for Beale and could be for Clement.

[AGM_72 4,136]

Can't be arsed comparing with Beale, he's a fraud who should never have been in the job. Was given it when we were crying out for an experienced manager.

In the here and now we don't even look like we'll manage 2nd and, considering that 2nd is unacceptable at this club, 3rd would be an abomination.

[writingranger 1,463]

14 minutes ago, esquire8 said:

We look worse, the stats are worse, the atmosphere is worse.

Take any avenue you want, it's worse now than it was under Beale.

It's because the disappointment is a year deeper.

[STEPPS BOY 78,066]

Just now, AGM_72 said:

Can't be arsed comparing with Beale, he's a fraud who should never have been in the job. Was given it when we were crying out for an experienced manager.

In the here and now we don't even look like we'll manage 2nd and, considering that 2nd is unacceptable at this club, 3rd would be an abomination.

3rd means no Guarantee of European football either.

[esquire8 45,594]

Just now, STEPPS BOY said:

Overall win percentages must be close.

Anyway, both are fucking terrible and should not be Rangers managers and ironically Aberdeen game was final straw for Beale and could be for Clement.

He should be out the door now.

Don't see how you can look at the performances this season and see an overall positive.

[Negri's lovechild 15,691]

Just now, STEPPS BOY said:

3rd means no Guarantee of European football either.

Is it Conference League or Europa League qualifiers?

That would be unthinkable not to have any European football.

[BlueKnight87 18,010]

1 minute ago, STEPPS BOY said:

Overall win percentages must be close.

Anyway, both are fucking terrible and should not be Rangers managers and ironically Aberdeen game was final straw for Beale and could be for Clement.

Agreed. I also think the Aberdeen game will be the final nail for Clement. 

On the performances we've seen, we're not winning there. 

[STEPPS BOY 78,066]

Just now, esquire8 said:

He should be out the door now.

Don't see how you can look at the performances this season and see an overall positive.

He’s a useful idiot for the board at this moment.

When it gets really toxic and they can’t use him any longer he’ll go.

 

[DeanMK 5,305]

Just now, esquire8 said:

He should be out the door now.

Don't see how you can look at the performances this season and see an overall positive.

What loonballs have you been talking to?

[STEPPS BOY 78,066]

Just now, Negri's lovechild said:

Is it Conference League or Europa League qualifiers?

That would be unthinkable not to have any European football.

Qualifiers for Conference and if we failed no Euro football.

[Negri's lovechild 15,691]

Just now, STEPPS BOY said:

Qualifiers for Conference and if we failed no Euro football.

That's awful. 

[esquire8 45,594]

1 minute ago, STEPPS BOY said:

He’s a useful idiot for the board at this moment.

When it gets really toxic and they can’t use him any longer he’ll go.

 

Hate should be pointed towards them just as much as it is towards the manager.

They've dragged us into this mess.

[johanhentze 14,829]

4 minutes ago, STEPPS BOY said:

3rd means no Guarantee of European football either.

Which is a financial disaster for the Club.

[esquire8 45,594]

Just now, Negri's lovechild said:

That's awful. 

No guarenteed European football for any team the season after next pretty much 

[OrangeRab 3,440]

1 hour ago, The Ibrox Derry said:

There's alot of snobbery in our support in terms of McInnes and his style and ability to manage a successful Rangers. 

We have this issue with Scottish players aswell.

We seem to clamour for non Scottish managers and players, which has been wholly unsuccessful thus far.

Just so we are clear on this.

Scottish football is currently laughing their heads off at us, so it's time we parked the high and mighty nonsense and seriously look at what some Scottish players and a Scottish manager could bring to our club.

Mcinnes is a decent manager. But we need a great manager to get us to where we want to be.

Someone that can take us to another level tactically but also rebuild the club off the pitch. 

McInnes might set us up and make us hard to beat but he’s not going to put all the pieces in place to win us a title.

[SkylineBlue 25,947]

4 minutes ago, STEPPS BOY said:

Overall win percentages must be close.

Anyway, both are fucking terrible and should not be Rangers managers and ironically Aberdeen game was final straw for Beale and could be for Clement.

We'll lose by a few goals at Pittodrie, but he won't be canned.

[bam74 1,085]

We are skint. That's the hard truth. He needs to go but, unfortunately, we don't have the money to bin him and his backroom staff. If the reported 2.5 million a season is true, we are looking at 7.5million just to get rid of him never mind the other duds. 

[Zappa6995 3,814]

6 minutes ago, STEPPS BOY said:

3rd means no Guarantee of European football either.

Every cloud has a silver lining, watching us is a fucking chore tbh.

[STEPPS BOY 78,066]

4 minutes ago, esquire8 said:

Hate should be pointed towards them just as much as it is towards the manager.

They've dragged us into this mess.

Absolutely but this board aren’t daft and keep fan media and sections of fans onside and no coincidence that as soon as the had a go at the UB’s during week the banners are out.

As soon as the Ire turns on them significantly they’ll keep their useful idiot in charge.

[NixonRFC 1,650]

9 minutes ago, STEPPS BOY said:

Overall win percentages must be close.

Anyway, both are fucking terrible and should not be Rangers managers and ironically Aberdeen game was final straw for Beale and could be for Clement.

I'd imagine his win percentage will be a fair bit below Beale's, I'm sure he had the best win percentage of any Rangers manager who had a minimum of 40 games.

*This isn't a bring back Beale post.

[BigBearButt 3,984]

3 minutes ago, bam74 said:

We are skint. That's the hard truth. He needs to go but, unfortunately, we don't have the money to bin him and his backroom staff. If the reported 2.5 million a season is true, we are looking at 7.5million just to get rid of him never mind the other duds. 

Bullshit. Sorry but that is absolutely bullshit. It is the fans who decide and who could make it unaffordable not to sack the guy

The minute fans turn and start voting with their wallets its game over. As soon as attendances and cash starts going down the board will pull the trigger. Also you never pay out the full contract it is usually an agreement of a fraction of the contract varying on length. If you paid out on a full contract you would be put on garden leave and told you cant work for anyone else for that period of time.

[esquire8 45,594]

1 minute ago, STEPPS BOY said:

Absolutely but this board aren’t daft and keep fan media and sections of fans onside and no coincidence that as soon as the had a go at the UB’s during week the banners are out.

As soon as the Ire turns on them significantly they’ll keep their useful idiot in charge.

Still bemuses me how the support are more than okay with two guys running the club with no accountability and thinking they will make the best choice for CEO and Chairman.

And how no one is questioning why no one from the current international board stepped up to take an interim chairmanship when Bennett stepped down. 

All in it for themselves. Don't see how they are any better than a Craig Whyte, Charles Green, Mike Ashley.

[Madina 4,307]

The guy is hopeless. Talks in riddles half the time and is trying to sugar coat shite. His record from March until now is dugshite. Yet to beat the taigs, yet to have us play football thats attractive to watch. Scunnered with him. Yet another false dawn in a long line of them 

[Moody Blue 10,135]

1 hour ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said:

The sheep are better run, and with a decent looking manager, getting better results than us. Folk will laugh, but they need to be our immediate target and if / when we overtake them we worry about being genuine contenders.

If nothing changes we could easily finish the league in 3rd place and win nothing unless someone else puts the scum out of a cup.

Yet some will have you believe there’s no way the sheep will beat us in the league. Benchmark or not right now, they’re above us, so someone needs to tell me what track we’re on and why they think we have a manager and a group of players, playing like they are, will easily finish 2nd cos I don’t see it. We’re dreadful and the attitude today was an utter disgrace, pretty much from the first minute.