molesmole 1,367 Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 6 minutes ago, Jimfanciesthedude said: The rookie manager who took 2 years to best neil fucking lennon, while spending the guts of 30mill and convinced the board to ramp up the wage bill to an unsustainable amount Dont kid yourself had rodgers not left that mob first time round they could be going for 14iar this season Think you have mis interpreted my points. They are not unbeatable with our resources. I am guessing you feel they are, so your expectations will be firmly set at Second place and Conference football moving forward. I demand more for the money spent. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Davy Vandenbroucke 26,946 Posted September 1 Popular Post Share Posted September 1 Just now, The Godfather said: Hope so. He's not got a clue how to set us up or compete. I’m questioning his tactics and decisions as well mate, but the real question is how two managers who were successful elsewhere have seemingly ended up absolutely flopping here. It points to a deeper issue with the structure of the club. Roy Hobbs, Bears r us, AGM_72 and 10 others 13 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdzKyle 8,572 Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 Is use of subs is just totally baffling at times. Majority of the time he waits until the game is lost before changing it. He’s not up to this job. The sooner we get rid the better. Unfortunately with a new contract, that’s going to cost us a fortune. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Maestro 13,898 Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 2 minutes ago, Davy Vandenbroucke said: I’m questioning his tactics and decisions as well mate, but the real question is how two managers who were successful elsewhere have seemingly ended up absolutely flopping here. It points to a deeper issue with the structure of the club. Turning in to Man Utd now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 25,571 Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 1 minute ago, The Godfather said: He still won the title. Something no cunt has managed since him and looks like no cunt will be able to for the foreseeable. Wouldn't be in this position if the board actually backed him when we won it. But there you go. He won the title because the tarriers took it for granted that the ten was done, They havent made that mistake since, both managers since then have been backed big time knowing we're fucking rooked Even after we did 55, our finances were in the gutter, we won the league and they still sold nearly 30 mill quid worth of players that summer We sold dick all and had dick all money once the ten was stopped Since then there has been no plan for the future, no plan of squad building fuck all, we're now on our 3rd manager who's supposed to do a rebuild like that mob did after they lost the ten, its been an utter clusterfuck since the summer of 21 Doesn't matter what manager we have, the tarriers have a built in settled core team that just needs fine tuning every so often, until we let a manager build the same nothing will change Jelavic191 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
molesmole 1,367 Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 Just now, Davy Vandenbroucke said: I’m questioning his tactics and decisions as well mate, but the real question is how two managers who were successful elsewhere have seemingly ended up absolutely flopping here. It points to a deeper issue with the structure of the club. The scouting and recruitment is shocking mate. Huge contracts to nobodies we then can't shift. We overpay all the time, I get it's hard to get players to come to Spl, other teams in the league seem to pick up better players then we do, then we don't take them off them. Scottish football is fast, hectic, hard tackling, and at times just boring turgid shit. Need legs and workrate - need insane fitness and running power. Time we played best was everyone knowing thier role. Being uber fit. Fuck folk were saying we were cheating and abusing coffee and all sorts we were that well drilled and fit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HG5 12,199 Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 1 hour ago, Loyal72 said: Fuck me, help. If he doesn’t get it by now, he never will. Bin! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 32,410 Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 Just now, AdzKyle said: Is use of subs is just totally baffling at times. Majority of the time he waits until the game is lost before changing it. He’s not up to this job. The sooner we get rid the better. Unfortunately with a new contract, that’s going to cost us a fortune. Not using our 6M striker today is a strange one. Refusing to utilize Hagi is another. Hadron Collider and HG5 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 25,571 Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 5 minutes ago, molesmole said: Think you have mis interpreted my points. They are not unbeatable with our resources. I am guessing you feel they are, so your expectations will be firmly set at Second place and Conference football moving forward. I demand more for the money spent. No you implied cause a rookie manager did it then why can't others No other manager has been allowed to rebulld and spend as much over 3 years as gerrard was allowed, one title, no cups and 3 years of massive massive losses meant we were never going to continue in that manner When gerrard won the league he had 3 players from the previous regimes, and it took 3 seasons to do that No manager we could get could do it quicker, even worse now as the tarriers wont make the same mistake of hiring a doughball like lennon again molesmole 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MayboleLoyal_atb 4,038 Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 Would honestly prefer if we just didnt do any interviews after the game ritchieshearercaldow, HG5 and Hilly86 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 25,571 Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 8 minutes ago, Davy Vandenbroucke said: I’m questioning his tactics and decisions as well mate, but the real question is how two managers who were successful elsewhere have seemingly ended up absolutely flopping here. It points to a deeper issue with the structure of the club. Because they spent 3 seasons keeping the title winning team on life support, instead of just pulling the fucking plug and starting again Had we done this summer back after seville we'd likely be in a much much better position, instead we are 2-3 years behind schedule now, which has solidified the tarriers hold on the title OrangeRab 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kents_Hook 1,697 Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 19 minutes ago, Davy Vandenbroucke said: When stuff like this starts happening, no matter how unjustified, it’s difficult to see a way back. people that shout abuse looking for a reaction so they can post it online is no worse than that cunt we just punted out the door. J-Maestro 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeRab 3,382 Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 7 minutes ago, Jimfanciesthedude said: He won the title because the tarriers took it for granted that the ten was done, They havent made that mistake since, both managers since then have been backed big time knowing we're fucking rooked Even after we did 55, our finances were in the gutter, we won the league and they still sold nearly 30 mill quid worth of players that summer We sold dick all and had dick all money once the ten was stopped Since then there has been no plan for the future, no plan of squad building fuck all, we're now on our 3rd manager who's supposed to do a rebuild like that mob did after they lost the ten, its been an utter clusterfuck since the summer of 21 Doesn't matter what manager we have, the tarriers have a built in settled core team that just needs fine tuning every so often, until we let a manager build the same nothing will change Not true at all. We went the season unbeaten ffs. We had built a quality team with pace, power and cohesion. The bones of that team came within a kick of winning the Europa League. If we had that 55 team now I’d be very very confident winning the title. Its the incredible regression since 55 that’s been the problem. Agreed we need to let a manager build now in the same way Gerrard was allowed. It should have been done with Gio. Rangers_no1 and graeme_4 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 55,327 Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 8 minutes ago, AdzKyle said: Is use of subs is just totally baffling at times. Majority of the time he waits until the game is lost before changing it. He’s not up to this job. The sooner we get rid the better. Unfortunately with a new contract, that’s going to cost us a fortune. Igamane not getting a minute's football then getting on today before Danillo is peak Clement. bluenoz, Leftpegcoopz11 and AdzKyle 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
molesmole 1,367 Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 Just now, Jimfanciesthedude said: No you implied cause a rookie manager did it then why can't others No other manager has been allowed to rebulld and spend as much over 3 years as gerrard was allowed, one title, no cups and 3 years of massive massive losses meant we were never going to continue in that manner When gerrard won the league he had 3 players from the previous regimes, and it took 3 seasons to do that No manager we could get could do it quicker, even worse now as the tarriers wont make the same mistake of hiring a doughball like lennon again Yeah so why can't they. Have a look at what we have spent last two years, did we get bang for our buck. Are we fittest team - that's free to do. Are wee the best drilled...that's a manager /coach Are we great at set plays .... coach Do play good football?...Coach Defend well? ...Coach Cool well fenaians are untouchable now due to money and thier elite manager. Might as well let Clement run and we keep signing same level players for too much as even hew surely can't fuck up finishing second. No surrender Jim. I am leaving this thread alone. Clement is not the one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanVeenRangers 2,707 Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 Gio Beale and Clement all can't handle the scum. PC now has alot of newer players. Is it a Manager thing or is a a club mentality thing where we know we are 2nd rate? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leftpegcoopz11 5,134 Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 At least Hearts gained a point against us. The only point they have after 4 games. Just about sums it up. Rangers_no1 and ritchieshearercaldow 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Hobbs 2,910 Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 1 minute ago, Leftpegcoopz11 said: At least Hearts gained a point against us. The only point they have after 4 games. Just about sums it up. No sure what the fuck that has to do with anything but they got beat. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sRcFoCt 8,185 Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 3 minutes ago, Leftpegcoopz11 said: At least Hearts gained a point against us. The only point they have after 4 games. Just about sums it up. Yet people said it was a fantastic result on the phone ins Leftpegcoopz11 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jelle1880 627 Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 He's at the point of his managerial career where he starts talking nonsense and making excuses. Always a bad sign for a manager. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 25,571 Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 5 minutes ago, OrangeRab said: Not true at all. We went the season unbeaten ffs. We had built a quality team with pace, power and cohesion. The bones of that team came within a kick of winning the Europa League. If we had that 55 team now I’d be very very confident winning the title. Its the incredible regression since 55 that’s been the problem. Agreed we need to let a manager build now in the same way Gerrard was allowed. It should have been done with Gio. A team with pace power and cohesion that ultimately we couldn't afford We literally threw everything we had at that season with no plan for the future Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leftpegcoopz11 5,134 Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 Just now, Roy Hobbs said: No sure what the fuck that has to do with anything but they got beat. Don't think it was classed as that bad a result at the time for us (after Clement had dressed it up a bit). Turns out it looks pretty bad now considering they are fucking pish. That's wtf it has to do with it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyal72 13,606 Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 1 hour ago, Loyal72 said: Fuck me, help. Just keep rethinking about this. He doesn't get it at all and it scares the fuck out of me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 25,571 Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 7 minutes ago, molesmole said: Yeah so why can't they. Have a look at what we have spent last two years, did we get bang for our buck. Are we fittest team - that's free to do. Are wee the best drilled...that's a manager /coach Are we great at set plays .... coach Do play good football?...Coach Defend well? ...Coach Cool well fenaians are untouchable now due to money and thier elite manager. Might as well let Clement run and we keep signing same level players for too much as even hew surely can't fuck up finishing second. No surrender Jim. I am leaving this thread alone. Clement is not the one. They have spent millions and 3 seasons building the core of that team, we're now on our 3rd gaffer who has a different idea of how to play, so we need to adjust and change again Until ANY manager is allowed time to implement their own style across a full team nothing will change Blue Skies 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rangers_no1 34,476 Posted September 1 Popular Post Share Posted September 1 19 minutes ago, Jimfanciesthedude said: He won the title because the tarriers took it for granted that the ten was done, Can you please stop peddling this myth Jim. Fred H Crawford, OrangeRab, J-Maestro and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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