Is Clement getting an easy ride?

[docspiderman 1,303]

I would expect a good manager to learn from mistakes and from what he sees in games.

Does he really think that his system works and that his players are suited to it?

Does he still not see that Celtic have used the tactic of taking set pieces quickly for the past 3 season seasons because our players always seem surprised and are still being caught out. Surely he must have pointed this out in the past and pre game to new signings. Has he not warned players about the speed of their counter attacks and the need to be in position to defend this. Then the fact that they target both wide areas but we leave these areas exposed.

I realise that we cannot compete with their pace but teams can counter this by not allowing them space to use it. In his games so far we have not done so.

[dee9 4,013]

When he came in a first heard him and a says oh ya dancer we have a right good one here. A real presence.

He's miles and miles off that same guy. Glasgow is hard.....it's a proper tough environment as an old firm manager. I have real concerns now.

Hope I'm wrong but a don't care how long he signed a contract until....that won't mean nothing if the fans really turn. Listen he needs time but hes making really glaring mistakes for me. 

[psb07158 35,292]

Was his defence to the fans berating him really to say “we had 4 shots on target” ?

 

[Davy Vandenbroucke 26,946]

1 minute ago, psb07158 said:

Was his defence to the fans berating him really to say “we had 4 shots on target” ?

 

Looks like it.

Does himself no favours coming out with stuff like that. We’ve had more than our fair share of shysters and conmen over the years, so we have a pretty good sense of when folk are trying to pull the wool over our eyes.

Just be honest and say we weren’t good enough, but we’re a team in transition and we need time to develop. A lot of fans would appreciate and respect the honesty.

Coming out with nonsense about stats and shots on target etc just needlessly pisses off the support and comes across as condescending as fuck. Once Gio and Beale started coming out with that patter, the writing was on the wall.

[psb07158 35,292]

6 minutes ago, Davy Vandenbroucke said:

Looks like it.

Does himself no favours coming out with stuff like that. We’ve had more than our fair share of shysters and conmen over the years, so we have a pretty good sense of when folk are trying to pull the wool over our eyes.

Just be honest and say we weren’t good enough, but we’re a team in transition and we need time to develop. A lot of fans would appreciate and respect the honesty.

Coming out with nonsense about stats and shots on target etc just needlessly pisses off the support and comes across as condescending as fuck. Once Gio and Beale started coming out with that patter, the writing was on the wall.

His post match interview reminded me of Beale today. Absolutely full of pish and I’m not sure even he believed what he was saying. 

The game was done by half time so any of the shots on goal / chances at the end of the game are utterly irrelevant and to keep banging on about the first 10 minutes just pissed me off even more

[Davy Vandenbroucke 26,946]

19 minutes ago, psb07158 said:

His post match interview reminded me of Beale today. Absolutely full of pish and I’m not sure even he believed what he was saying. 

The game was done by half time so any of the shots on goal / chances at the end of the game are utterly irrelevant and to keep banging on about the first 10 minutes just pissed me off even more

I think the support would be more willing to give some leeway if we could see even some improvements in performances - in his very first OF, having just came back from playing in Russia with 9 men midweek, Gerrard narrowly lost 1-0 at Celtic Park due to a goal where there was a foul in the buildup. We then beat them at Ibrox in the very next OF.

The trouble is that Clement has had five OF games now, and we’ve only properly shown up in one, which we lost anyway (cup final). That’s not even mentioning that we’ve went 2-0 down in almost all of them. No matter the personnel, we should at least start being somewhat competitive in these games at this point. It’s pretty telling that the likes of Kilmarnock and Hearts have given them far more difficult games than we have in recent times, and their squads are nowhere near as talented as ours.

[MacBoyd 6,068]

Get him to fuck 

[psb07158 35,292]

6 minutes ago, Davy Vandenbroucke said:

I think the support would be more willing to give some leeway if we could see even some improvements in performances - in his very first OF, having just came back from playing in Russia with 9 men midweek, Gerrard narrowly lost 1-0 at Celtic Park due to a goal where there was a foul in the buildup. We then beat them at Ibrox in the very next OF.

The trouble is that Clement has had five OF games now, and we’ve only properly shown up in one, which we lost anyway (cup final). That’s not even mentioning that we’ve went 2-0 down in almost all of them. No matter the personnel, we should at least start being somewhat competitive in these games at this point. It’s pretty telling that the likes of Kilmarnock and Hearts have given them far more difficult games than we have in recent times, and their squads are nowhere near as talented as ours.

Gerrard’s teams had guys who didn’t fear them one bit. Kent (when he first came), Davis, Jack, Morelos, McGregor and even guys like Niko Katic had zero fear. You knew going into those games we weren’t getting a doing and if they beat us, they’d have to absolutely be on their game. 

Now, they just have to turn up. We’re cannon fodder. 

[BlueSuedeSambas 56,374]

2 minutes ago, psb07158 said:

Gerrard’s teams had guys who didn’t fear them one bit. Kent (when he first came), Davis, Jack, Morelos, McGregor and even guys like Niko Katic had zero fear. You knew going into those games we weren’t getting a doing and if they beat us, they’d have to absolutely be on their game. 

Now, they just have to turn up. We’re cannon fodder. 

 

He usually gets on my nerves but David Edgar summed it up quite well today when he said that most teams have three or four players of real quality who are then supplemented with other guys who will do a job and right now we have a squad full of the supplemental guys and no players of real quality.

[the brown brogue 1,961]

Looks like rather than the version of Clement who was successful in Belgium we've got the Monaco version who was unable to coach the side out of a slump in form and string of poor results. Difference is at Monaco he paid for it with his job whereas at Rangers he was rewarded with a contract extension.

[Tiger Shaw 31,923]

The writing is on the wall, like has been said above we’re too long in the tooth now, we know the signs and we know how this ends. Rinse repeat. The games a boggy. I see no way out this mess. Clement is now a big part of the problem not the solution.  
 

 

[MayboleLoyal_atb 4,038]

As I get up for another Monday at work after an old firm defeat, I just need to keep reminding myself of that Ross county result last week to get me through the day.

[Southsider 387]

There's that old saying about good players make goals, good tactics stop them.  Yesterday was an excellent example that we have neither.  Two excellent  chances to take the lead, but neither player capable of taking them. And a midfield setup that allowed them to attack at will through huge spaces.  I do think Bajrami is a good signing, but I still think a number 6 was the priority and not getting one as well was unforgivable 

[KBOO72 4,758]

Remember when he came in and he said he wanted to make us the best team in the league technically, tactically, mentally and physically. 

We're not even close in one of those departments right now.

Technically, most of our players struggle to do the most basic things required, having a good first touch, completing a 5 yard pass or playing 1 touch football. 

Tactically we are an absolute shambles, ripped open at will by almost every team we come up against and with no real identity or style of play ourselves. 

Mentally we are weak as fuck, we were beat before the first whistle and we all knew as soon as that 1st goal went in yesterday it was game over and that the 2nd goal would come along soon. It happens far too often and some might not agree with me here but it all stems from our shitebag, loser captain.

And physically we are still a fucking joke. We lose a player to injury virtually every game, sign guys who take weeks before they can play and then when they do are second best in terms of work rate and effort. They ran us off the park yesterday. 

There has been little to no improvement in players individually, or collectively since he arrived. The majority of the football we've seen has been awful, his record is a fucking joke (9 wins in 20 or something like that now) and he's starting to waffle utter shite in his interviews . 

He's failing in every department right now and if anyone can give me a valid reason why he should stay based on his job performance I'd love to hear it. Not because of his contract, not because it'll cost us to pay him off, not because we don't know who to replace him with. What is he doing on a daily basis and at weekends that merit him keeping his job? 

[kris1984 1,566]

Like it or Not he’s here for season at least. As long as he gets 2nd, the board will keep him.

[MayboleLoyal_atb 4,038]

15 minutes ago, kris1984 said:

Like it or Not he’s here for season at least. As long as he gets 2nd, the board will keep him.

If we lose to Dundee united which is a real possibility then the board maybe not have any choice.

[theiconicman 3,121]

He said he wanted to come here and be a coach, but I see little coaching in the team. We don't look like we have any tactics, the players all play individually with little connection between them. Contrast that with the movement of the filth, Kyogo dropping deep and Maeda runs behind, midfield/ defense works to break out of blocks/ pressing.

We had none of that.

I don't think he'll last until Christmas.

[MacBoyd 6,068]

22 minutes ago, MayboleLoyal_atb said:

If we lose to Dundee united which is a real possibility then the board maybe not have any choice.

You can't be 8 points behind the sheep he'd have to go. 

[SeparateEntityMyArse 55,327]

We're now far closer to being just another team in the league than a truly competitive half of the OF let alone the best team.

When the manager talks shite and says its just efficiency in front of goal that's the difference, our situation won't improve whilst the likes of the sheep do.  I'm hopeful it was just a poor attempt to defend how shite we were because if he genuinely believes we're close except for taking chances then we really have got huge problems. 

We've had difficult games on paper against Hearts, Kiev x 2 and that mob. We've failed to win any of them. Last season we suffered unacceptable losses to RC, Dundee and Motherwell (at Ibrox). That can't routinely happen again this season.  Clement simply has to consistently get results in games we should be winning and punch above our weight against better teams ie the scum and many of our EL opponents. I strongly doubt he can or will 

 

 

[J-Maestro 13,898]

35 minutes ago, MayboleLoyal_atb said:

If we lose to Dundee united which is a real possibility then the board maybe not have any choice.

We will beat Dundee United.

[Zulu 990]

5 hours ago, MacBoyd said:

Get him to fuck 

Couldnt agree more

[The Godfather 75,665]

Guys clueless. Every interview I see I just want to launch the tv

[crmpicco 150]

56 minutes ago, kris1984 said:

Like it or Not he’s here for season at least. As long as he gets 2nd, the board will keep him.

There's a realistic chance we don't finish second this season. I think we are in a genuine fight for second place now

[.Williamson. 87,176]

1 hour ago, MayboleLoyal_atb said:

As I get up for another Monday at work after an old firm defeat, I just need to keep reminding myself of that Ross county result last week to get me through the day.

Nobody’s bothered mentioning it to me in work so far

Im getting the same reaction from people now that the Leeds fan gets from people in work when they lose. Nobody cares 

[graeme_4 37,462]

12 hours ago, .Williamson. said:

The ones I work with that support that lot haven’t even bothered texting me today to wind me up. Not one single one of them. 

No cunt cares anymore

The atmosphere was absolutely pish as well.

Just a run of the mill game for them.