FSM 20,892 Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 Anyone got any ideas how this might work and what kind of deal gets struck between himself and the club (if any)? Just wondering how it works when we want to use his image for marketing, or sell stuff bearing his name. Do we need to pay him an agreed cut? Is it all rolled into his management deal? Obviously with guys like Warburton and Pedro it wasn't an issue (on account of them being complete no-marks), but surely it won't be straightforward with someone as high profile as Gerrard? Assuming he has them of course..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rum Ham 2,059 Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 14 minutes ago, FSM said: Anyone got any ideas how this might work and what kind of deal gets struck between himself and the club (if any). Just wondering how it works when we want to use his image for marketing, or sell stuff bearing his name. Do we need to pay him an agreed cut? Is it all rolled into his management deal? Obviously with guys like Warburton and Pedro it wasn't an issue (on account of them being complete no-marks), but surely it won't be straightforward with someone as high profile as Gerrard? Assuming he has them of course..... No idea, but would think it would be part of the job. It's not as if he is coming here to make money. WATP-FOREVER and BillyG93 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FSM 20,892 Posted May 10, 2018 Author Share Posted May 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, GT66 said: No idea, but would think it would be part of the job, not as if he is coming here to make money. If we're using his image to make money then I would've thought that some deal would be made, either rolled into his salary or as a cut of proceeds. Most high profile players have these deals (like Gerrard probably had in his playing days), so why not high profile managers? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted May 10, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 10, 2018 It’s his name and his image so it’s his money. Would like to see him doing the sort of stuff he’s doing with Liverpool this week but under the Rangers name and using his name & face to get the Rangers brand out there billym27, TheGovanIniesta, Copland bear and 6 others 9 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMckee 3,420 Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 Sure if he is employed by us we can use his image if it's to do with RFC especially if it's on works time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FSM 20,892 Posted May 10, 2018 Author Share Posted May 10, 2018 9 minutes ago, Courtyard Bear said: It’s his name and his image so it’s his money. Would like to see him doing the sort of stuff he’s doing with Liverpool this week but under the Rangers name and using his name & face to get the Rangers brand out there There would be standard marketing that I would assume would be 'free', like sticking his name/face on club posters, magazines etc. But maybe he gets a cut when I order my Steven Gerrard mug, mouse mat and pyjamas. WATP-FOREVER, Billythebear77 and beararse 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
j1mgg 3,766 Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 I thought image rights was a tax dodge used by the dog eater and the tims Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 Just now, FSM said: There would be standard marketing that i would assume would be 'free', like sticking his name/face on club posters, magazines etc. But maybe he gets a cut when I order my Steven Gerrard mug, mouse mat and pyjamas. Changed days when we are talking about image rights. ?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gj923 1,457 Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 Maybe that’s why, unlike most leading players, I’ve never asked for an image rights deal with Liverpool. What he has said in the past about image rights FSM 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FSM 20,892 Posted May 10, 2018 Author Share Posted May 10, 2018 1 minute ago, gj923 said: Maybe that’s why, unlike most leading players, I’ve never asked for an image rights deal with Liverpool. What he has said in the past about image rights Is that correct? If so, fair play and question answered. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCapone 7,678 Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 11 minutes ago, MrMckee said: Sure if he is employed by us we can use his image if it's to do with RFC especially if it's on works time. For a price, yes Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post gj923 1,457 Posted May 10, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, FSM said: Is that correct? If so, fair play and question answered. But his loyalty is instinctive, as are the values that mean he has always refused an image rights deal (where a player makes money every time his club features his face in a commercial). “You hear other players talking about image rights and how much it earns them. Personally, I think it’s disgusting for a player to ask for image rights from his club. I believe that when you sign a contract, you sign your image rights over to them. They pay you well, and you’re working for them. Maybe it’s different if you’re Messi or Ronaldo. “But there’s so much money in football now, because of the television deals, and it seems to be getting worse,” Gerrard says. “I think we’ll see players moving an awful lot more, because agents will always push for the next move. My own focus has always been football. It’s something my mum and dad handed down to me – the idea that you should just be the best you can be and everything else will take care of itself. You avoid becoming greedy. You concentrate on becoming a good footballer, rather than a personality or a brand.” Was from a guardian interview but sure it has been mentioned elsewhere also https://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/sep/19/steven-gerrard-liverpool-football-interview-donald-mcrae WATP-FOREVER, FSM, OnwardsandUpwards and 5 others 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoGeo7 10,518 Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 20 minutes ago, Courtyard Bear said: It’s his name and his image so it’s his money. Would like to see him doing the sort of stuff he’s doing with Liverpool this week but under the Rangers name and using his name & face to get the Rangers brand out there I know what you’re saying but I’d prefer it if he focuses on getting a winning team together before we start thinking about promoting the club around the world. Pre-season tour and winter break are great opportunities for this but first and foremost sort out this squad of shitehawks and get us winning and feared again. McEwan's Lager, WATP-FOREVER and MDYT2 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhW 4,669 Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 "...the club asked me to appear in an advert for Nivea. It was clear I was still important to Liverpool off the field. I turned it down. Jordan Henderson stepped in and when I saw the ad on television I was relieved. Doing those kind of ads just isn’t me. I’ve had tons of offers to advertise products bare-chested and I’ve always said no. Maybe that’s why, unlike most leading players, I’ve never asked for an image rights deal with Liverpool." Ger_onimo 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amokachi 3,010 Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 His main sponsor was always Adidas. Would've been too good to have had new Adidas kit & new manager announcement together last week. As mentioned earlier, couldn't care less if he was sponsored by Tampax just win football games. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FSM 20,892 Posted May 10, 2018 Author Popular Post Share Posted May 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, Amokachi said: His main sponsor was always Adidas. Would've been too good to have had new Adidas kit & new manager announcement together last week. As mentioned earlier, couldn't care less if he was sponsored by Tampax just win football games. I bet that Hummel are over the fucking moon that we've appointed Gerrard. born a blue nose, Billythebear77, ZZed and 3 others 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 82,223 Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 Taigs say that he’s getting all the money for it Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mr Soprano 13,964 Posted May 10, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 10, 2018 Just now, .Williamson. said: Taigs say that he’s getting all the money for it Must be true. They'll know more about it than we will tbf. kelvd1873, CoatbridgeBear, Sonnybear1972 and 4 others 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hammer93 15,057 Posted May 10, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 10, 2018 You would think he had joined Albion Rovers.....we are still a massive club....Gerrards image will be every bit iconic using the Rangers brand as it is us using him. True Hair Bear, BridgeIsBlue, Johnny Dangerously and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rum Ham 2,059 Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 1 hour ago, FSM said: If we're using his image to make money then I would've thought that some deal would be made, either rolled into his salary or as a cut of proceeds. Most high profile players have these deals (like Gerrard probably had in his playing days), so why not high profile managers? Different situation,he's not here for the money. If I was in his shoes I'd want more to spend rather than in my own pocket. Just guessing thi, I really don't have a clue what will happen with the image rights kelvd1873 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 1 hour ago, NeoGeo7 said: I know what you’re saying but I’d prefer it if he focuses on getting a winning team together before we start thinking about promoting the club around the world. Pre-season tour and winter break are great opportunities for this but first and foremost sort out this squad of shitehawks and get us winning and feared again. Well I wouldn’t want him away midweek during a season. ? But we have a great chance to get the club out to the rest of the non Bear world, and with that comes money money money. Better that than Kings all the eggs in one CL basket. ZZed and Blumhoilann 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geronimoo 1,474 Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 Does he even have this deal, I heard some stoater on Clyde saying it with the usual "My mate who is good informed told me", but I was always under the impression with work outside football it is the players business whereas in Spain you sign a contract saying the club get a cut. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack The Flipper 5,936 Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 Isn't Gerrard using our name and image as well??? It's not just about Gerrard hammer93 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FSM 20,892 Posted May 10, 2018 Author Share Posted May 10, 2018 Just now, Jack The Flipper said: Isn't Gerrard using our name and image as well??? It's not just about Gerrard Aye, if he's lucky he might win a personal sponsorship deal with Hummel. Jack The Flipper 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack The Flipper 5,936 Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 Just now, FSM said: Aye, if he's lucky he might win a personal sponsorship deal with Hummel. Hummel I just hope they give us decent gear, it's not the most prestigious football kit name! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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