Popular Post Bakbear 3,586 Posted December 13, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said: Whats the difference apart from their greater managerial experience? The PR we get from his name? Does PR win titles now? Naw. Winners win titles. Footballing men win football matches. Leaders win titles Steven Gerrard is a straight talking, no nonsense winner who live and breathes football. He is not here for the money he is here for the fight. He has taken us from a European laughing stock to a couple of unlucky breaks from qualification out of the group stages of the UEFA cup having played teams with 10 times our budget. Some inconsistency aside he has us back at the sharp end of the league table and has corrected our home form as well as taken us 11 games unbeaten in Europe. All in one transfer window. Imagine what he will do with 3 or 4 windows. I repeat talk of sacking him is madness Malvern, Bearsden bear, Blue Rino and 4 others 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeIsBlue 66,606 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Brian Fantana said: The alternative's the board finally pony up to back a proven manager with money if that doesn't continue then we're winning fuck all and our title count gets overtaken in time by the scum. Where are we finding the money to compete against them financially? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakbear 3,586 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, the old guard said: Sorry, Middleton, coulabaly, Grezda, will not be league winners this year, like many others they are just not good enough. Middleton is 18 ffs. Grezda is coming in to a game. Coulibaly is utter dross right enough. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,789 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 10 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said: Away and don't talk shite, wrestling no on the night naw? Nah, the wrestling isn’t on tonight. I’m assuming ITV4 aren’t showing any Burt Reynolds reruns tonight either and that’s how you’ve ended up in here too? I’m not completely dismissing everything you are saying but it does seem like you can’t wait to come in here after we lose to either start talking about sacking the manager or to make veiled posts about how Dave King isn’t providing proper funding. Yes we need to win the the title soon but it’s not win or bust this season. Gerrard has areas to improve but I do think we are going in the right direction and we need to stay the course for another year at least to see how it pans out. We can’t afford to keep sacking managers and ripping the team apart once a year. Negri's lovechild and BridgeIsBlue 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fantana 28,894 Posted December 13, 2018 Author Share Posted December 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, BridgeIsBlue said: Where are we finding the money to compete against them financially? I'm not descending this into a board discussion but it starts and ends with them and if king is about to move millions to the UK for a share offer no ones apparently going to take up, then let's see if he finally puts some money onto a budget seeing as it's just sitting there in an account. Otherwise we are no longer a title winning club. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunk and disorderly. 14,421 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 19 minutes ago, GaryMc said: No chance. We need money and better players. 3 managers in the last few years but we have still have shite players because good ones cost money. Good runs in Europe make us money and encourage better players to sign for us. I think Gerrard will win us 55, just not in his first season as a minority on here demand. Sack him and we go back a step yet again. GaryMc, AlbertzLoyalRSC and BridgeIsBlue 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
They Gnu 11,553 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 7 minutes ago, the old guard said: Sorry, Middleton, coulabaly, Grezda, will not be league winners this year, like many others they are just not good enough. Middleton is a kid and if you can’t see a player there your a fuckin nutcase. The Dude and Blue Rino 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryMc 2,394 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Drunk and disorderly. said: Good runs in Europe make us money and encourage better players to sign for us. I think Gerrard will win us 55, just not in his first season as a minority on here demand. Sack him and we go back a step yet again. For the record I don't want to sack him and want to stick with him as I think we'll improve under him in my opinion. However we simply need better players. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacBoyd 5,441 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 5 minutes ago, Bakbear said: Middleton is 18 ffs. Grezda is coming in to a game. Coulibaly is utter dross right enough. Grezda looks utter shite and scared to do anything. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fantana 28,894 Posted December 13, 2018 Author Share Posted December 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, DBBTB said: Nah, the wrestling isn’t on tonight. I’m assuming ITV4 aren’t showing any Burt Reynolds reruns tonight either and that’s how you’ve ended up in here too? I’m not completely dismissing everything you are saying but it does seem like you can’t wait to come in here after we lose to either start talking about sacking the manager or to make veiled posts about how Dave King isn’t providing proper funding. Yes we need to win the the title soon but it’s not win or bust this season. Gerrard has areas to improve but I do think we are going in the right direction and we need to stay the course for another year at least to see how it pans out. We can’t afford to keep sacking managers and ripping the team apart once a year. So far Gerrard's won nothing and the leagues still in reach - if we continue drawing/losing in the league there has to be a time where he goes - when that is depends on how many points weve dropped and where we are at the end of the league. If he keeps us in contention this season then agreed, he should stay but his target remains a title and if he drops double figures behind them early on in the new year then that for me is not a sign of improvement. And I agree we can't keep sacking managers but we also can't go years without a title on the hope we eventually come good. We also can't afford too. BlueSuedeSambas 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeIsBlue 66,606 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 4 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said: I'm not descending this into a board discussion but it starts and ends with them and if king is about to move millions to the UK for a share offer no ones apparently going to take up, then let's see if he finally puts some money onto a budget seeing as it's just sitting there in an account. Otherwise we are no longer a title winning club. We don't need millions upon millions to win the league. It's a simple fact that many on here can't grasp because they believe we simply have to win every game we play in a certain style of football, and we must never be beaten under any circumstances. After Tynecastle we were good enough to challenge them, now after a few disappointing results we have to knock everything down and start again, it's predictably fucking boring. The Dude, plumbGER and Malvern 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,789 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 1 minute ago, They Gnu said: Middleton is a kid and if you can’t see a player there your a fuckin nutcase. The way that some people only work in extreme positives or extreme negatives with no middle ground is genuinely one of the worst things abiut this forum. Middleton is a kid who was to be slowly eased in to the first team this season. As it is he’s ended up playing more football than we probably expected him to and as you would expect from an 18 year old his form is a bit up and down but the one thing he has never done is hide and he’s shown enough over the course to suggest there is talent there. Malvern, Blue Rino, Negri's lovechild and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlbertzLoyalRSC 18,071 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 OP... BridgeIsBlue 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
They Gnu 11,553 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Just now, DBBTB said: The way that some people only work in extreme positives or extreme negatives with no middle ground is genuinely one of the worst things abiut this forum. Middleton is a kid who was to be slowly eased in to the first team this season. As it is he’s ended up playing more football than we probably expected him to and as you would expect from an 18 year old his form is a bit up and down but the one thing he has never done is hide and he’s shown enough over the course to suggest there is talent there. Bang on mate but the moon howlers are going to howl. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
They Gnu 11,553 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 4 minutes ago, MacBoyd said: Grezda looks utter shite and scared to do anything. This post tells me it’s time I was away Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fantana 28,894 Posted December 13, 2018 Author Share Posted December 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, AlbertzLoyalRSC said: OP... Good chugging technique, keep it up. 👍 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swagger 7,964 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 As it stands there is zero chance of us winning the league. Only chance of anything is if the draws are kind in the Scottish Cup and someone else manages to put them out as we will obviously crumble against them ritchieshearercaldow 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudrupsleftfoot 10,874 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, They Gnu said: Middleton is a kid and if you can’t see a player there your a fuckin nutcase. He's been fucking shite though in virtually every game he's played for us. He has a shot at making it but it's like when a 14 year old gets a game for his old man's pub team and just sits on the wing looking lost not knowing what the fuck is going on. Wish some cunt would do a video of everything he did wrong tonight and then compare to the handful of things he did right. About 10-1 ratio. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fantana 28,894 Posted December 13, 2018 Author Share Posted December 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, Swagger said: As it stands there is zero chance of us winning the league. Only chance of anything is if the draws are kind in the Scottish Cup and someone else manages to put them out as we will obviously crumble against them We're still in contention, if we get signings in January let's see what happens. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyalfollower 1,543 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 It’s hard to use our wages as an argument. Were as big as celtic yet paying a lot less for players. We could sign killies best players and pay them Rangers wages yet they’d still be Killie standard players. what we need is 3-4 proven quality winners/leaders. Only that will make a difference. Every manager needs backing if the club wants to win, you wouldn’t see any top manager signing as many loans and unproven players as we do. But that’s our budget and tbh there’s not slot of difference in a player at 500k as a player at 2 million these days. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunk and disorderly. 14,421 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 11 minutes ago, GaryMc said: For the record I don't want to sack him and want to stick with him as I think we'll improve under him in my opinion. However we simply need better players. Fair enough. The gate receipts and Euro prize money should help us buy better players. It's something to build on. GaryMc 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronniescu 2,976 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 36 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said: So he gets time. But Warburton, ally and Pedro don't? Whys that? Maybe because they proved to be useless bastards, after years in management. Stevie, on the other hand, is just over three months into his apprenticeship. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
35 Yard Dangerman 3,476 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 It does my nut in that cunts seem to throw the towel in first sign of a slight breeze. Im guilty of exaggerating things with us too sometimes but fuck sake we are clearly on the best path we have been in a while and we need to remain on it and all on board also. Stick together, ride out this "storm" and we will get there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fantana 28,894 Posted December 13, 2018 Author Share Posted December 13, 2018 4 minutes ago, ronniescu said: Maybe because they proved to be useless bastards, after years in management. Stevie, on the other hand, is just over three months into his apprenticeship. We are where we are but his remit would have been to win the title, that's not changed so let's hope he gets a few in this window and keeps us challenging till the final games at the very least Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 12 minutes ago, Laudrupsleftfoot said: He's been fucking shite though in virtually every game he's played for us. He has a shot at making it but it's like when a 14 year old gets a game for his old man's pub team and just sits on the wing looking lost not knowing what the fuck is going on. Wish some cunt would do a video of everything he did wrong tonight and then compare to the handful of things he did right. About 10-1 ratio. Absolute pish. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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