Orange Persson 548 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Could also be that him and Pedro never quite seen eye to eye, plus the fact that Miller has lost his form. Hard to believe he went behind managers back for a few quid on articles. Was he honestly looking for money? or trying to demean a manager he didn't like. Maybe a big pay off story when it all calmed down? If so, it never surprises what people will do for money or motive. Maybe he hoped for a coaching role with Ped gone? All speculative shite of course. Lets see. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 35,142 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 10 minutes ago, Orange Persson said: Could also be that him and Pedro never quite seen eye to eye, plus the fact that Miller has lost his form. Hard to believe he went behind managers back for a few quid on articles. Was he honestly looking for money? or trying to demean a manager he didn't like. Maybe a big pay off story when it all calmed down? If so, it never surprises what people will do for money or motive. Maybe he hoped for a coaching role with Ped gone? All speculative shite of course. Lets see. More likely to position himself positively following his Rangers career, be it as a manager or pundit. Speaks volumes that Sutton is the only one to condem him. Blue Avenger 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack The Flipper 5,936 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 16 minutes ago, Orange Persson said: Could also be that him and Pedro never quite seen eye to eye, plus the fact that Miller has lost his form. Hard to believe he went behind managers back for a few quid on articles. Was he honestly looking for money? or trying to demean a manager he didn't like. Maybe a big pay off story when it all calmed down? If so, it never surprises what people will do for money or motive. Maybe he hoped for a coaching role with Ped gone? All speculative shite of course. Lets see. In my opinion no I can only see Pedro giving him a contract extension if he trusted him, and now I think Pedro has just found out it's been Miller letting him down all along and this is why he's been ejected from the squad. Would you get a player to sign an extension if he wasn't doing what you asked him to do and was being disruptive? It's not like he's been performing at such a high level this kind of thing can be ignored. Just opinion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
backup 4,724 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Is he training with ghe kids or doing his mormal helping Murty out with the development squad,as he is dropped from the first team squad ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Persson 548 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Can't disagree with replies guys. Funny thing is managers and players can and do change their mind about each other as circumstances change, This is life. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 9 hours ago, Frank Reynolds said: It's easy enough to find a photo that paints someone in one light or another, which was my point. Not fussed that he isn't near the first team now, shouldn't have been so anyway. Find one of him celebrating with a smile this season. They are few and far between. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buster. 1,114 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 18 minutes ago, Jack The Flipper said: In my opinion no I can only see Pedro giving him a contract extension if he trusted him, and now I think Pedro has just found out it's been Miller letting him down all along and this is why he's been ejected from the squad. Would you get a player to sign an extension if he wasn't doing what you asked him to do and was being disruptive? It's not like he's been performing at such a high level this kind of thing can be ignored. Just opinion. Pedro didn't rush to offer the extension despite Miller being our best player towards the end of last season. My hunch is that he didn't really want to but pressure was brought to bear by the media (especialy the DR) and more importantly Miller's on-field performance backed it up. Pedro jettisoned a raft of players for various reasons, including those he saw as bad apples, most of whom weren't offering anything on the field. I get the feeling he wasn't entirely comfortable with Miller but recognised his on-field contribution, succumbed to a degree of pressure and gambled. Reminds me of the situation between Ronnie Delia/Kris Commons. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StornowayBlue 630 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 The only time when you need Kenny's neighbour to come forward with more info... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigdave30 8,752 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Nobody is bigger than the club, especially not Kenny Miller, he has done us a turn and stuck with the club through hard times but it's hardly as though Real Madrid and Bayern Munich were hammering at his door and if they were you wouldn't have seen him for the dust. I stand by the manager, I like the way he forced a lot of deadwood out the door in a short time and if Kenny has got too big for his boots and wants to join them that's his problem. Will be interesting to see if the leaks to the press stop now. We didn't miss him last night and I doubt we will in the future. Blue Avenger, surfsup2 and gsa 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 83,742 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Thank fuck his crippling lack of pace during a game has fucked away off now though Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcbear 10,924 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 I was quite happy to see Kenny Miller get another years contract but hands up I was wrong and Kennys batteries have ran out and it looks like a season too far. Blue Avenger, The Specky Forum Organiser and Negri's lovechild 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zulu 981 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 1 hour ago, graeme_4 said: More likely to position himself positively following his Rangers career, be it as a manager or pundit. Speaks volumes that Sutton is the only one to condem him. What does Sutton know that the rest of us dont he seemed quite confident it was KM Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Reynolds 3,359 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 5 hours ago, BridgeIsBlue said: No you but the cunt you've quoted. Do people genuinely have dementia when it comes to "legends". RFCRoberston posted a link to him not smiling when a goal was scored. I posted some when he was. He's no legend, he's a past it footballer who I'm glad is nowhere near the first team now. I've never said anything different. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeIsBlue 66,654 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Meet Kenny 37 years old Fed up with life and the way things are going He decides to keep the heed But on his way down the line He has a sudden change of heart And suddenly,his conscience comes into play ALRIGHT STOP! Iron Proddy, Creampuff and BigDak 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDIGNITY 33,709 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Clubs and professional footballers will always leak stories to the mheejah to suit their agenda plus we've got traynor at the helm of our 'PR' so you don't think he doesn't use it when he needs it? That another problem when you've got ex journos on your wage bill they're loyalty lies with the nuj not who they work for! That's the way it is and always will be for them! Bears r us 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malvern 11,329 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Whether he is/was the leak or not is immaterial, he has been gash this year and never doing the job he is paid for which is to create or score goals, as .william noted above his lack of any composure is like giving them 13 men as we are one down and they feel a man extra. Probably explains why Pedro wasn't happy with Dorrans giving the armband to Kenny last week as well, PC knew he was getting the boot into KM if he could and wanted to try out a better candidate in the middle of his park as captain. Let's face it even my door would be more bloody vocal than captain fantastic! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDIGNITY 33,709 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Whether the him/club/pr are the leak to suit whoever or whatever the next few games are massive with or without Miller, time for Pedro and the team to step up to the plate and at least get us into a final, the jury is still out on all ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,804 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Miller is NOT the mole according to Roger hannah on clyde ssb right now. He never got the story from him for his paper obviously he wont say who he got it from Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
piperpete 3,186 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 11 minutes ago, KingKirk said: Miller is NOT the mole according to Roger hannah on clyde ssb right now. He never got the story from him for his paper obviously he wont say who he got it from I believe him, KM has been hung drawn and quartered because many think it was him who talked to the press, one of the guys who wrote the thing said it wasn't KM , Pedro needs to clear this up before it goes any further as no doubt the papers will make this the big story due to no football until the Scotland game now their glory boy isn't taking part. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 72,124 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Scenes when it's announced it isn't Miller. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,622 Posted September 30, 2017 Author Share Posted September 30, 2017 52 minutes ago, piperpete said: I believe him, KM has been hung drawn and quartered because many think it was him who talked to the press, one of the guys who wrote the thing said it wasn't KM , Pedro needs to clear this up before it goes any further as no doubt the papers will make this the big story due to no football until the Scotland game now their glory boy isn't taking part. We could just as easily make up a story that it's Alves and he's not been away seeing some specialist that rubs on Ronaldos leg. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Proddy 609 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 So it's Miller then Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
piperpete 3,186 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 18 minutes ago, Smile said: We could just as easily make up a story that it's Alves and he's not been away seeing some specialist that rubs on Ronaldos leg. You've taken this too far . Smile 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 1 hour ago, piperpete said: I believe him, KM has been hung drawn and quartered because many think it was him who talked to the press, one of the guys who wrote the thing said it wasn't KM , Pedro needs to clear this up before it goes any further as no doubt the papers will make this the big story due to no football until the Scotland game now their glory boy isn't taking part. Pedro needs to clear up jack shit. It wasn't him who ran gob shiting to the taig mhedia. No matter how much Hannah and co try to bury their source, Miller is guilty as charged. Hence why he was banished twice in as many weeks. It is for the rhat himself to prove his innocence. He wont because he can't and if he was, he would have made his statement already and walked out with a clear case of victimisation and constructive dismissal. He can't do that either because he is guilty, so like the spineless back stabbing prick that he is, he keeps the head down stealing a wage with the development squad. If I was the manager, he would be gone already with no comeback, but no doubt Kingco will be looking at the PR side of it to manage him out the door. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duffy2391 574 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 I just want to see Herrera and Morelos start together, Millers an onion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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