McEwan's Lager 30,571 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 1 minute ago, the brown brogue said: His main issue as a defensive midfielder is his lack of defensive intelligence and anticipation. He sees the ball, reacts and dives in. If it works and he wins the ball and we keep possession, fine. However when it doesn't work he's out of the game on the deck while the opposition stroll into the empty space left behind. A good defensive midfielder should be reading the play so they don't have to fly into last ditch tackles. Don't know if that's something that can be taught, or like a goalscorers instinct it's something you either have or you dont, but I'd trust Gerrard/McCallisters judgment if they think he can develop into an effective midfielder. Disagree with your assessment of him. He has shown plenty of times in his short career in the first team that he is capable of reading a game and intercepting a pass or nipping in and winning the ball without going to ground. Last night he dived in far too much but it was largely because our midfield shape across the three last night was nonsensical and all over the place. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sket 13,610 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 57 minutes ago, Sasa Papac's War Flashbac. said: If you’re good enough you’re old enough. Look at Tierney for the tramps. Played 100 odd games, captained them, won trebles, all at only 21. I bet you have spunk stained posters of him on your wall. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPWF 8,261 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 41 minutes ago, Sket said: I bet you have spunk stained posters of him on your wall. Because I can be objective about another team’s player? Fuck up ya reptile. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 82,537 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 I like him Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broxi 11,505 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 He's good at getting stuck in and putting in a tackle but I don't think he is good enough on the ball, be it passing, dribbling or controlling a game. People saying that Rossiter or Coulibally wouldn't be ahead of him are wrong imo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sket 13,610 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 32 minutes ago, Sasa Papac's War Flashbac. said: Because I can be objective about another team’s player? Fuck up ya reptile. I'm no the one swooning over the tarrier golden boy. Ya reptile. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malvern 11,329 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 3 hours ago, graeme_4 said: Don’t think I referenced last night at all. Wind your neck in. He has a perfectly valid point, telling him to wind his neck in for it is not productive. Yes last night wasn't the lads best game but I have seen the best of players have shit games and reset themselves and come back stronger. The lad is young, just coming into the first game he "HAS" to win as last year we were a disgrace and maybe he was in two minds about a lot of things. Takes more than one shit game to be called out as being a cunt, hell windass has had three years. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,689 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Unless his on ball ability improves he doesn't have a future imo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Don't know what's happened to him he looked first class when he broke on the scene. Really needs to get his form back or he wont/shouldn't feature. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BouncyBluenose87 1,562 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 He was everywhere for the first 15 minutes, then got clobbered in a challenge and disappeared. Not his greatest game last night but I see potential there. More than can be said for some of the dead wood we have in our midst at the moment. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsden bear 2,376 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 5 hours ago, graeme_4 said: Might be a bit controversial, and I’ll start this off by saying I like him, I like his effort and I love having a genuine fan working his baws off for us (unlike some other ‘Rangers men’ in the squad) - but is he good enough? Not sure to be honest. He was woeful at CB and for me lacks anything too good going forward. Can’t really pick a pass. Doesn’t dictate the tempo of the game. Can’t grab the team by the scruff of the neck and drive us forward. All which you need to be a good holding midfielder. I’d imagine he’ll be under threat with Coulibally coming in as the ‘desroyer’ and you have to think Gerrard will be targeting some creativity in the middle of the park after last night - So where does that leave him? He was the great white hope last week - this week he's pish. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibroxholm 2,280 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 2 hours ago, McEwan's Lager said: I think he will be a good defensive midfielder who wins the ball and plays a five yard pass to better players. You need someone like that in your team I think the problem we have is we don’t have any creative players to give the ball to. Agree. McCrorie has still a lot to learn in the defensive midfield position such as not diving in, staying on his feet and in the positional sense. However, he is young, has bags of potential and I think he will develop into a really good CDM. You are correct in saying that he just needs to keep it simple and play short simple passes. If he is galavanting upfield, trying to play defence splitting passes, as some seem to expect, he is not doing his job as a midfield anchorman imo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 5 hours ago, rabc10000 said: gerrard feels differently https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/2921938/Rangers-steven-gerrard-careless-ross-mccrorie/ BAD CHOICE Ross McCrorie at centre-back could have DESTROYED Rangers starlet’s career and was ‘careless’, says Steven Gerrard The 20-year-old - now a holding midfielder - played in defence for much of last season with Pedro Caixinha even claiming he'd become one of Scotland's greatest defenders VIDEO By Aidan Scott 13th July 2018, 8:13 am Updated: 13th July 2018, 8:14 am STEVEN GERRARD has blasted the decision to play Ross McCrorie at centre-back last season, saying it could have “destroyed” his career. Rangers star McCrorie was handed his first-team debut last season when he replaced Bruno Alves in the Betfred Cup quarter-final win over Partick Thistle. What does Gerard know ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedrick 8,048 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 If he’s fighting for the ball he’s fine but in games like last night when we have all the ball he contributes very little and his use of the ball was ridiculously safe , in and out the team I’d say letting him develope , when all are fit and ready I think the big lad from Angers will start and mcrorrie will be on the bench more often than not Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 34,617 Posted July 13, 2018 Author Share Posted July 13, 2018 2 hours ago, Malvern said: He has a perfectly valid point, telling him to wind his neck in for it is not productive. Yes last night wasn't the lads best game but I have seen the best of players have shit games and reset themselves and come back stronger. The lad is young, just coming into the first game he "HAS" to win as last year we were a disgrace and maybe he was in two minds about a lot of things. Takes more than one shit game to be called out as being a cunt, hell windass has had three years. Not really, given my post wasn’t a reaction to last night at all and didn’t reference the game at any point. If anything it was more about Gerrard saying he’s bringing in a ‘destroyer’ because we don’t have that at the club. He called me a fucking idiot and told me to have a word with myself, so it’s not exactly one sided. Dont think that any Rangers fan thinks / has called him that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
onefootwillie 1,518 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 He will do well . He is a young man learning his position. He has the ability and I hope he is with us for a long time Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddybear123 215 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Excellent at breaking up play and seen him play some fantastic passes forward last season. I think his issue at CDM is he isn’t good enough at being the link between defence and midfield when we’re try to play it out from the back, as he is not good at taking the ball on the half turn from the defenders. This is something I felt jack did very well at the start of last season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomatasauce 1,253 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 5 hours ago, Smile said: Are you kingkennymiller ? Ad ask if your a prick but I know the answer?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moody Blue Legend 61,591 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Great raw talent. His strength at the moment is his aggression but he needs to not dive in as much. Couple of times he was guilty of it last night making diddy players look good. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoopsLaud 4,186 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Bags of potential. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
piperpete 3,186 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 6 hours ago, graeme_4 said: Might be a bit controversial, and I’ll start this off by saying I like him, I like his effort and I love having a genuine fan working his baws off for us (unlike some other ‘Rangers men’ in the squad) - but is he good enough? Not sure to be honest. He was woeful at CB and for me lacks anything too good going forward. Can’t really pick a pass. Doesn’t dictate the tempo of the game. Can’t grab the team by the scruff of the neck and drive us forward. All which you need to be a good holding midfielder. I’d imagine he’ll be under threat with Coulibally coming in as the ‘desroyer’ and you have to think Gerrard will be targeting some creativity in the middle of the park after last night - So where does that leave him? He is a kid learning his trade and will have a few lows during this time but he will certainly be good enough and hopefully part of our club as a mainstay for years Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
port_bear 86 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 6 hours ago, graeme_4 said: Might be a bit controversial, and I’ll start this off by saying I like him, I like his effort and I love having a genuine fan working his baws off for us (unlike some other ‘Rangers men’ in the squad) - but is he good enough? Not sure to be honest. He was woeful at CB and for me lacks anything too good going forward. Can’t really pick a pass. Doesn’t dictate the tempo of the game. Can’t grab the team by the scruff of the neck and drive us forward. All which you need to be a good holding midfielder. I’d imagine he’ll be under threat with Coulibally coming in as the ‘desroyer’ and you have to think Gerrard will be targeting some creativity in the middle of the park after last night - So where does that leave him? I've been getting slaughtered for even questioning his potential but like yourself I just don't see where the hype is coming from. His effort cannot be questioned, the lad gives 110% and more but the points you mentioned about being able to pick a pass, dictate temp and grab the game by the scruff of the neck are all points i've made myself. A few have highlighted his age but that's a moot point for me, at the same age Barry Ferguson was doing everything we mentioned, picking passes, dictating tempo, controlling the midfield, McCrorie on occasions just looks lost. I'm not saying he's not worthy of a place in the squad but for me that's all he is a decent squad player, the hype surrounding him just baffles me. plumbGER 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomatasauce 1,253 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 why wait till the first competitive game of a new season to say what you think about him then? Funny how, when a player is injured he’s the messiah an the missing link etc. First misplaced pass an he’s shite, worse than tarriers some people on here i actually believe you thought that about him last year but your so much of a shitebag, you bottled going against the grain in here by saying it incase any your wee girlfriends fell out wae you your a fucking bam! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,943 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 I believe Rossiter is a far better player in that role especially when distributing but McCrorie has a great attitude and work ethic and I'm sure he will play a major role this year and improve along the way. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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