Inigo 32,534 Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 There were at least 4 or 5 good moments of defending from him as well. Never seem to be considered. BTW, I don't generally think he's a great defender, but you need to be reasonable with criticisms. TMB, sausagetrunks and TEFTONG 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
To Be A Ranger 4,032 Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 1 minute ago, Lord Lockin said: You don't rate him Gerrard makes him captain - fuckin know who's judgement I'll go with No problem there but he is pish defensively. I'll bet the manager is thinking the same now and wondering how to sort it Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
writingranger 1,413 Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, siddiqi_drinker said: The Rangers version of President Trump, the haters just hate. Not a reasonable comparison. Trump is a balloon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueMe 25,327 Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 Just now, Courtyard Bear said: What’s his first job? What position does he play? Attacking full back i would say. Personally, i would be changing the team to work around his defensive weaknesses, rather than changing Tavs attacking style. His attacking play is far too important to us. jbm26896 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 28 minutes ago, mitre_mouldmaster said: To be fair, that left back of theirs was really fucking good. Would be sounding them out for what he is valued at to be honest. Borna Barisic. Wouldn't mind him at Rangers either looks solid defensively and a real force going forward. jbm26896 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp9 753 Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 Made a few mistakes, like everyone on the park. Next. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 Just now, Inigo said: There were at least 4 or 5 good moments of defending from him as well. Never seem to be considered. BTW, I don't generally think he's a great defender, but you need to be reasonable with criticisms. He’s a poor defender what’s unreasonable about saying that. Folk go on about his crosses and assists and yes he’s good at that part of his game but the bottom line is he is a defender that struggles to defend. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddiqi_drinker 14,635 Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 Just now, BlueMe said: Attacking full back i would say. Personally, i would be changing the team to work around his defensive weaknesses, rather than changing Tavs attacking style. His attacking play is far too important to us. Try him at right mid in front of Flanagan who is naturally right-sided beechwood bear and SheriffHood 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lockin 3,912 Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 1 minute ago, To Be A Ranger said: No problem there but he is pish defensively. I'll bet the manager is thinking the same now and wondering how to sort it Naw be reading you on Bears Den to find out where he's going wrong Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 1 minute ago, BlueMe said: Attacking full back i would say. Personally, i would be changing the team to work around his defensive weaknesses, rather than changing Tavs attacking style. His attacking play is far too important to us. I’m fine with that, that’s why I would go 3 at the back. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1690tamRFC 5,001 Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 34 minutes ago, Inigo said: Don't think he's been that bad. A few iffy moments, but some moments of really good defending too. Great cross for the goal too. One of those players that whatever good he does gets absolutely abliterated by our support by focusing on the bad. Worst one for me was him getting turned to easy at the end but he rectified it inside the box brilliantly. Aye he shouldn’t have put himself in that position but he sorted it. Offers much more than given credit for and for me he’s not that bad defensively, we were collectively terrible last year, tav obviously included but I honestly think he will surprise a lot this year especially in the league. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomatasauce 1,253 Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, To Be A Ranger said: No problem there but he is pish defensively. I'll bet the manager is thinking the same now and wondering how to sort it In your opinion. An I’ll bet you everything you’ve got SG is absolutely delighted with tav tonight Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 73,929 Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 4 minutes ago, Courtyard Bear said: I would 3 at the back so he has someone to cover his arse when he is out of position again, gets turned inside out again. I was shouting for that last season.. Also would allow us to play 2 up top as well, mate. Courtyard Bear 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Hobbs 2,174 Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 28 minutes ago, TheGovanIniesta said: I haven't once thought to myself that someone was going to skip past Flanagan Skinned twice in the first half. Almost cost a goal with a poor clearance as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueMe 25,327 Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 Just now, siddiqi_drinker said: Try him at right mid in front of Flanagan who is naturally right-sided That could be a shout mate, definitely. Although, i like him driving forward from the back playing 1 2s and creating space. That's the way we got the first goal against Shkupi to set up Murphy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 Just now, STEPPS BOY said: I was shouting for that last season.. Also would allow us to play 2 up top as well, mate. Can’t see a downside to it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueMe 25,327 Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 1 minute ago, Courtyard Bear said: I’m fine with that, that’s why I would go 3 at the back. Worth a try mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,534 Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 Just now, Courtyard Bear said: He’s a poor defender what’s unreasonable about saying that. Folk go on about his crosses and assists and yes he’s good at that part of his game but the bottom line is he is a defender that struggles to defend. One of the unreasonable bits is when people greet about him making mistakes and never acknowledge when he does things well defensively, which he did today. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,610 Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 Saved a great ball off the line but caused countless other problems throughout the game. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 Just now, Inigo said: One of the unreasonable bits is when people greet about him making mistakes and never acknowledge when he does things well defensively, which he did today. That’s because his overall performances in defence are poor. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnwardsandUpwards 834 Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 30 minutes ago, BlueMe said: Without his assist, we don't win that game. That won't be the last time that's said this season either. Fuck off Tav where were you at that goal will be said a lot more though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,534 Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 Bottom line is it's 3 clean sheets for the defence and they all get a pat on the back for that. BlueMe 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,534 Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 1 minute ago, Courtyard Bear said: That’s because his overall performances in defence are poor. Yeah, but when you're analysing his performance in a single match, which is what the thread was started for, it's unreasonable if all you do is greet about the bad bits. Gives a completely misleading impression if that's what we do. Which I think is becoming a habit in the case of Tav. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
five stars 1,621 Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 Tav has become a far better defender over the last year or so. Under Warburton he was often caught out but that was mainly down to shite tactics. He's also the best attacking right back in the league. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,728 Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 I tend to back him when he bombs up and down because it's nonsense to expect him to overlap, get a cross in, but still be in position for the opposition breaking. But tonight he was clearly told to prioritise defending and he was goddamn awful. Sloppy, out of position, beat time and again by his man. McGregor saved him from costing us a goal. Can't say I think much of Flanagan yet either. They targeted him 2nd half and he too was poor. Looks nowhere near fit. Still despite all that we didn't concede. Much credit for that goes to McGregor and the real captain Goldson. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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