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8 minutes ago, Scottywellhousetb said:

Cunt just got leathered down the hill from my house, I'm emailing the SFA first thing in the morning to ask why this was allowed to happen , not fit for purpose. 

Hearing one had a Rangers top on mate. I know the SFAs game here 

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6 hours ago, With Heart and Hand said:

since when are the SFA responsible for policing a public area of the city?

They don't, but they are part of the liaison team that the police meet with when working out what risk level to put a match at. I'm saying that the SFA should have known about the reputation of the Croatian fans which would have helped the police determine the risk level, but apparently they don't have access to that info. which I find mind boggling since  they can act as judge, jury and executioner when blame and punishments are are given out.  imho  if the Croatians had been monitored and escorted to and from the stadium then they would have been nowhere near the celtic bar mentioned in that blog.  

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I did say very early in the thread that it had to have been inspired by those scum bastards. It wouldn't have been difficult to organise.

Like our own taigs the Croats are more taig than taig.

A taig visiting Croatia is a bit like going home for them.

Perhaps some of our more tolerant will start to have their eyes opened. This is not about wanting our club dead, they want us dead, such is their politics and doctrine and it's getting worse.

We will take that title and sooner than later, but it won't shut them up, but will have the opposite effect, such is their new found  empowerment and sense of entitlement under SNPira.

Quite simply, they want it all.

 

 

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7 minutes ago, Blue Avenger said:

I did say very early in the thread that it had to have been inspired by those scum bastards. It wouldn't have been difficult to organise.

Like our own taigs the Croats are more taig than taig.

A taig visiting Croatia is a bit like going home for them.

Perhaps some of our more tolerant will start to have their eyes opened. This is not about wanting our club dead, they want us dead, such is their politics and doctrine and it's getting worse.

We will take that title and sooner than later, but it won't shut them up, but will have the opposite effect, such is their new found  empowerment and sense of entitlement under SNPira.

Quite simply, they want it all.

 

 

And they want it now.

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4 minutes ago, Vision said:

Apparently it does, p563.

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No stabbing aloud though.

There's a whole chapter on getting to within 15 ft of your adversaries and then wildly gesticulating for 30 secs before picking up a bin/table/bottle/etc and throwing it at them in a way that's certain to do no harm at all. 

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5 minutes ago, gsa said:

There's a whole chapter on getting to within 15 ft of your adversaries and then wildly gesticulating for 30 secs before picking up a bin/table/bottle/etc and throwing it at them in a way that's certain to do no harm at all. 

That's the chapter that describes ' Pavement Dancing '

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7 hours ago, Sweetheart said:

They don't, but they are part of the liaison team that the police meet with when working out what risk level to put a match at. I'm saying that the SFA should have known about the reputation of the Croatian fans which would have helped the police determine the risk level, but apparently they don't have access to that info. which I find mind boggling since  they can act as judge, jury and executioner when blame and punishments are are given out.  imho  if the Croatians had been monitored and escorted to and from the stadium then they would have been nowhere near the celtic bar mentioned in that blog.  

Thats fucking nonsense. 

Anyone can walk anywhere in the city. If like Ajax did and a large walk up to the stadium is planned then the polis can organise an escort. If ajax fans decide to leave their hotels in taxis in groups of four then they can travel anywhere they like Ffs.

The SFA and Rangers are part of the liaison team as are the Croats. So why no blame attached to us or them? The police are the guys who have the intel on hooligans not the fucking governing body of Scottish football. I was going.to say I genuinely can't believe you're still going here trying to find a conspiracy with the sfa. You've been told countless times the only people to blame for not acting quick enough on PRW are the police.

What if osijeks security team told them their known hooligans weren't travelling? 

Sadly the truth seems quite easy to fathom, osijek have sat in the meeting and said we've sold 100 tickets. Police Scotland have rubbed their hands and thought if we can do Aberdeen or the taigs at ibrox we will take care of 100 Croatians. They thought they were in for an easy night and have royally fucked up.

Gonae please just drop this it's embarrassing and mind numbing to read

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19 hours ago, K.A.I said:

Their group came round guys in my group at the square asked if we wanted to fight, said yes but they went away and then came back with an ambush with swords and sticks and it kicked off ... one of my pals stuck a bottle over one of them and got arrested but took to Osijek court next day and seen the game, another in cuffs but let go when it died down ... cops told Rangers fans go to your hotel bars or go to jail you decide 

Is this from green street 2? 

I watched green street years ago, but thought it was pish.

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9 hours ago, Sweetheart said:

They don't, but they are part of the liaison team that the police meet with when working out what risk level to put a match at. I'm saying that the SFA should have known about the reputation of the Croatian fans which would have helped the police determine the risk level, but apparently they don't have access to that info. which I find mind boggling since  they can act as judge, jury and executioner when blame and punishments are are given out.  imho  if the Croatians had been monitored and escorted to and from the stadium then they would have been nowhere near the celtic bar mentioned in that blog.  

Not for a UEFA sanctioned match. The SFA have minimal involvement. The police are entirely responsible for this. They sent FI officers over to Croatia, they should know about Croatian fans reputations. Its not for the SFA to tell the police what they should already know. 

If it was there wouldn't be a police led Football Intelligence unit. 

The SFA are, undoubtedly an utter shambles but no part of this particular fiasco can be blamed on them.

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2 hours ago, Rfc52 said:

Thats fucking nonsense. 

Anyone can walk anywhere in the city. If like Ajax did and a large walk up to the stadium is planned then the polis can organise an escort. If ajax fans decide to leave their hotels in taxis in groups of four then they can travel anywhere they like Ffs.

The SFA and Rangers are part of the liaison team as are the Croats. So why no blame attached to us or them? The police are the guys who have the intel on hooligans not the fucking governing body of Scottish football. I was going.to say I genuinely can't believe you're still going here trying to find a conspiracy with the sfa. You've been told countless times the only people to blame for not acting quick enough on PRW are the police.

What if osijeks security team told them their known hooligans weren't travelling? 

Sadly the truth seems quite easy to fathom, osijek have sat in the meeting and said we've sold 100 tickets. Police Scotland have rubbed their hands and thought if we can do Aberdeen or the taigs at ibrox we will take care of 100 Croatians. They thought they were in for an easy night and have royally fucked up.

Gonae please just drop this it's embarrassing and mind numbing to read

Yes.

I don't trust the SFA or Lawwell as both would see our club in the gutter again. The last time we were in European football there was a campaign to blacken Rangers name, hit the club hard with fines and drain our resources, pushing us towards admin. I see them wanting to do that again as the club has stated we need European money to get on a even keel. 

 I had more faith in the police to keep Rangers fans safe but after reading that blog and how the police got blindsided from something orchestrated at that pub, makes me question how did their intel miss it. 

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6 minutes ago, Sweetheart said:

Yes.

I don't trust the SFA or Lawwell as both would see our club in the gutter again. The last time we were in European football there was a campaign to blacken Rangers name, hit the club hard with fines and drain our resources, pushing us towards admin. I see them wanting to do that again as the club has stated we need European money to get on a even keel. 

 I had more faith in the police to keep Rangers fans safe but after reading that blog and how the police got blindsided from something orchestrated at that pub, makes me question how did their intel miss it. 

We can't be fined for anything outside the stadium 

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