Club statement | Resolution not deemed competent

[Dickie1963 2,358]

6 minutes ago, eejay the dj said:

Wouldnt count on the law, PF or and Police force going after him mate 

This corruption is much wider than SPFL

 

Never prove corruption.

It will be down as incompetence

 

[bornabear 6,208]

57 minutes ago, Dickie1963 said:

What if teams go bust in the meantime.

Even after what we went through dont want that to happen.

Then it's a goodbye from me.

2012 comes to my mind .

[bluenoz 30,959]

#3 in the Hearts statement is mind boggling!

These fuckers won't last 5 minutes in a court of law.

[SeparateEntityMyArse 53,815]

10 minutes ago, esquire8 said:

Very.... quite historical this evidence.

Think it pre dates the merger.

[sRcFoCt 7,689]

1 minute ago, Sparkle said:

Noticed the only club actually name checked was Rangers FC although there was opportunity to specifically name others instead of just referencing ‘other’

We are an easy target for the foaming at mouth and easily lead cunts

[esquire8 43,004]

Just now, bluenoz said:

#3 in the Hearts statement is mind boggling!

These fuckers won't last 5 minutes in a court of law.

It's a clever statement.

[LaudrupsPatrickBoots 13,510]

1 minute ago, Canabear said:

Namely Raith Rovers for one who have been putting pressure on Dundee

Raith Rovers know that forcing this through is likely the only way they'll go up. If the season is declared null and void they don't go up and if it's extended then Falkirk will likely end up knocking them off the top spot.

It's not surprising they're trying to sway the voting.

[esquire8 43,004]

1 minute ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said:

Think it pre dates the merger.

Possibly. I don't know if they can go that far back.

[Creampuff 22,628]

1 minute ago, bluenoz said:

#3 in the Hearts statement is mind boggling!

These fuckers won't last 5 minutes in a court of law.

They’ve made the point in a convoluted manner, but if/when this goes to court it won’t be the Hearts Board/Comms doing the drafting.

[Blumhoilann 6,712]

7 minutes ago, don logan said:

Can they expand on the method used by Dundee to "try" and submit their vote and why this failed?

Must have 'snail-mailed' their vote and emailed their cancelling of it 😉

 

[esquire8 43,004]

4 minutes ago, Sparkle said:

Noticed the only club actually name checked was Rangers FC although there was opportunity to specifically name others instead of just referencing ‘other’

Ie we can only name check Rangers after they made a statement. They don't have a fucking clue.

[British_Empire 9,648]

Just now, Creampuff said:

They’ve made the point in a convoluted manner, but if/when this goes to court it won’t be the Hearts Board/Comms doing the drafting.

It's maybe just me but I think she says a lot without really saying anything tbh.

[DMax399 3,769]

5 minutes ago, don logan said:

Can they expand on the method used by Dundee to "try" and submit their vote and why this failed?

Carrier pigeon apparently.  But, seriously it could only be email, or more unlikely fax.  The chances that what they state happened actually did are very low.  A huge co-incidence give that it was the deciding vote.

[Robmc1 4,741]

1 hour ago, KingKirk said:

Friday's vote was essentially to give celtic the title am amazed at just what's happened. Someone has become to over confident and it's rumbled the lot.

When we actually step back and look at the bigger picture here, at a time when sadly over 10k deaths have occurred in the UK with or due to covid-19.  When we should all be pulling together for the good of our friends, family and community in general, the football authorities here in Scotland (influenced by you know who) it emerges hatched a plan to award a title to a club (celtic) basically blackmailing other clubs for cash which we are now led to believe was available on request for any member club in financial difficulty. This alone should force an independent review never mind the emerging corruption its looking to have harboured. It’s actually shameful, sad and embarrassing to have this group associated with my nationality...

[Trooblue 1,973]

Hearts' statement is ok, up to a point. It doesn't echo our call for suspensions and an inquiry though. 

[BlueMe 25,327]

The fact the SPFL are asking for evidence of corruption and wrongdoing within the SPFL, is proof in itself of corruption and wrongdoing within the SPFL tbh.

Why would the "complainant" hand over evidence to the organisation they're making the allegations against and have already asked for an independent inquiry into that organisation. 

The SPFL are trying to use the fact Rangers haven't, or are unwilling to, provide evidence as a way of undermining our allegations- when the reality is, Rangers would be crazy to give them anything at this time.

Let an independent enquiry deal with this and get it all out in the open- let's see what other skeletons are in the cupboard here.

[STEPPS BOY 74,208]

Welcome to the party, Anne.

[OceanRain 2,845]

That Hearts statement has just sunk the SPFL.

[Amato 3,016]

1 minute ago, Trooblue said:

Hearts' statement is ok, up to a point. It doesn't echo our call for suspensions and an inquiry though. 

Also kinda pours cold water on the poster from earlier's claims about a joint statement coming out tomorrow from Rangers and other clubs. Surely Hearts would be one of them? Yet they say they can't provide any insight into our claims

[NeoGeo7 10,560]

Just now, OceanRain said:

That Hearts statement has just sunk the SPFL.

Here’s hoping...

[tina-duncan 212]

1 minute ago, Amato said:

Also kinda pours cold water on the poster from earlier's claims about a joint statement coming out tomorrow from Rangers and other clubs. Surely Hearts would be one of them? Yet they say they can't provide any insight into our claims

Unless other clubs beyond us and Hearts are about to release a statement too.

[Colin Traive 22,876]

13 minutes ago, Laudrup1984 said:

Hearts Statement

 

On Wednesday, 8th April, following a series of briefings and receipt of the SPFL’s Written Resolution of that date, I issued a statement which clearly indicated that Heart of Midlothian would be voting against the Resolution. Both in my statement and in subsequent media interviews, I outlined our reasons for voting in this manner. I can confirm that we lodged our “No” vote on Friday 10th April 2020.

Following what has been a hugely turbulent few days, please find below an updated statement of our position.

To remind you, our objections to the Resolution were in large part condemnatory of the process being followed.

 

1.     I argued that the possible implications involved in the decision were of such magnitude that all 42 Clubs needed time to discuss, debate and ensure a full understanding of all of the relevant factors and options.  I also argued that to ask Clubs to vote on one option only, within little more than 48 hours, was totally unreasonable.

 

2.     The Legal briefing notes which accompanied the Written Resolution makes it very clear that given these unique circumstances, it falls to the SPFL members to decide the fairest basis on which to determine final league standings along with the associated implications, for Season 2019/20.

These briefing notes outline 6 (of various) options, the advantages and disadvantages of which the Board has apparently considered. The brief summary of the first 5 of these options focus on why the Board considers these options to be unsuitable.  While I have no issue with their views being expressed, I do not consider the arguments for or against these options to have been objectively expressed. 

In the 6th option, the single one that members are being asked to vote on, the reasons for (not against) this being the best solution are more fully stated.  The very language used is different.  Instead of talking in terms of something being arbitrary or unfair or damaging, as is done when discussing other options, the language changes to talk of how this is the fairest method of determining the final League positions.  Clearly, this is a subjective judgement. It suggests that the Board has made a decision and simply wish now to convince the members to accept that decision.  This is not, in my view, how you honour the principle that it is up to the members to decide how to ensure the fairest approach is taken.

The Board has clearly discussed and considered various options. This is exactly what we would expect of the Board. However, to then dismiss all but one option and present only this option for a members vote, within a very limited timescale, must surely raise the question of whether the Board is attempting to unduly influence the members decision making process.

 

3.     In my earlier statement, I also indicated that I did not accept the position being argued by the SPFL that the only way to make much needed funds available to members was to pass this Resolution. It is difficult not to argue that linking the vote in this way to releasing funds, was an attempt to unduly influence the outcome of the vote.

A number of Clubs were angered by this approach, and as has been well publicised, Rangers promptly pulled together a Resolution, which if passed, could have seen funds able to be released to Clubs immediately.  This would have removed any suggestion that a Club’s financial situation could be a possible influencer in the vote.

The fact that such an important matter was not properly addressed by the SPFL, in advance of the vote, is hugely disappointing. 

Rangers submitted their paperwork to the SPFL on Thursday 9th April and were advised that the Resolution required the support of 2 further clubs, before it could be considered. We had already publicly stated that we supported Rangers in this matter and duly, at 3.47pm, submitted an identical Resolution to the SPFL, receipt of which was promptly acknowledged at 3.50pm. We did not receive any subsequent correspondence on this matter until 11.57am on Friday 10th April, when we received an email from the SPFL notifying us that the Resolution was not competent. Our in-house lawyer contacted the SPFL to understand in what manner the Resolution was not competent, to be informed that the issue was the use of the single word “instructed” as opposed to “requested” (That the Board of the Company be authorised and instructed as follows:). I am not a lawyer but find it quite incomprehensible that this should hold up the whole process. 

My observations are that if the SPFL genuinely wanted to work with member clubs to find a solution to the matter of releasing funds they could and should have reverted both more timeously and more helpfully. I have also been advised, from various reliable sources, that on a video call with the Championship clubs at approximately 4.30pm on Thursday, it was stated that the Ranger’s Resolution was incompetent.  I would stress that I was not personally on that call. However, assuming, as I do, that this remark was made, I have to wonder why we were not so advised until lunch-time the following day. Once again, I strongly question the process.

 

4.     The final point from my last statement, on which I wish to update you, is the question of whether League reconstruction is being, or should be, considered in time for 2020/21.  It was confirmed over the past few days that if the Resolution was approved, the Board would be prepared to consult with Clubs on League reconstruction.  It was also intimated that they thought the chance of reaching agreement was very slim.

Given that the Resolution is not yet approved and given that time is marching on, I can confirm that Hearts, either alone or in conjunction with other Clubs, will be proposing a Temporary Adjustment to the Leagues, aimed at bringing matters to a close in a manner that ensures no Club is financially penalised as a consequence of these exceptional circumstances.   

I would add that the financial consequences for Hearts of the current Written Resolution being accepted and thereby, almost certainly facing relegation, would be in the order of £2.5m - £3.0m of lost income next year.  This would be on top of the financial burdens we will all face as a consequence of what is going on in the world today.  For other relegated clubs, the financial penalties, while perhaps on a different scale, would be equally devastating to their operations. For this reason, if for no other, we will not give up on seeking an alternative Resolution that sees greater fairness for all.

 

In summary, the past few days have been quite extraordinary.  Over this period, I have been speaking regularly and extensively to other Chairmen and Chief Executives both in the Premier League and the Championship and I was convinced that the SPFL Written Resolution would fail on Friday.  I knew that some Clubs had moved their position in the run-up to the vote, as indeed is always their right.  I knew that the Premiership clubs would vote ‘yes’.  However, I was absolutely confident that 3 Championship Clubs were united in voting ‘no’, thereby buying Clubs more time to consider other options.  I have no more insight than anyone else as to why Dundee’s vote has not yet been confirmed.

I saw also the Rangers statement of yesterday and the SPFL’s response.  Once again, I have no further insight into the claims being made by Rangers.  However, this is a major embarrassment for Scottish football, one which I believe could so easily have been avoided.  Without openness, transparency and pragmatism we will simply keep making the same mistakes. 

I refuse to speculate and can only assure you that we will continue to explore, in every way possible, any and all options that will offer a more equitable outcome than has to-date been proposed to the very real problems that face us all

Point 3 is the killer.

Rangers put together a solution to enable immediate release of funds and the tarrier board knocked it back because of “instructed” instead of “requested”

Probably a comma in the wrong place as well.

Gaun yirsel’ Anne, fucking intae them

👍

[esquire8 43,004]

3 minutes ago, Amato said:

Also kinda pours cold water on the poster from earlier's claims about a joint statement coming out tomorrow from Rangers and other clubs. Surely Hearts would be one of them? Yet they say they can't provide any insight into our claims

The SPFL chairman coming out with a record 2nd statement in under 24 hours does change things.

Hearts are going to do what's best for Hearts at the minute. 

Also I'm in no way someone who can 100% tell what's going to happen. If you believe my word as 100% gospel then please don't.

[MoodyBlue1872 3,078]

2 minutes ago, Amato said:

Also kinda pours cold water on the poster from earlier's claims about a joint statement coming out tomorrow from Rangers and other clubs. Surely Hearts would be one of them? Yet they say they can't provide any insight into our claims

I don't think any club will do anything jointly with us. 

[bluenoz 30,959]

1 minute ago, Amato said:

Also kinda pours cold water on the poster from earlier's claims about a joint statement coming out tomorrow from Rangers and other clubs. Surely Hearts would be one of them? Yet they say they can't provide any insight into our claims

It will be interesting to see if some of these other teams are ones who originally voted YES.