BlueMe 25,327 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 Just now, Rfc52 said: BTW there's real talk uefa are about to suggest all leagues null and void That's probably why the SPFL were desperate to rush this through tbh. The "5pm deadline" was misleading as fuck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 108,937 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 Just now, British_Empire said: Is that off the back of yesterday's story about the wee Belgian health minister they hired as a consultant? Fifa are suggesting this is going to be what happens apparently Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,647 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 I don't see any other outcome other than a Dundee yes vote tomorrow clearly if they still intended to vote no they have just re submitted the vote right away Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 108,937 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 Just now, BearInTheToon said: Dundee will probably ending up abstaining, blaming undue external pressures. Thus meaning the resolution passes. BUT, given the circumstances, an investigation (and if needs be, another vote) is necessary. Not voting is a no vote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gascoigne8 3,378 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Jb85 said: I cancel the read receipts at work when I open an email and that pops up. Not sure what happens at the other end though but there is an option to cancel them. Totally mate but my point is surely in the position of casting a vote you would keep your read receipt as proof of "postage" if you like. Its to stop situations like this where the SPFL have came out and said one club hasnt voted, and unless the club themselves were notified they wouldnt know. When contacted they could point to the read receipt as proof the email was opened. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueThunder 8,454 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 1 minute ago, HG5 said: Not sure if this has been suggested before, but I wonder if the whistleblower isn’t another club, but someone inside SPFL, who knows what actually happened to to Dundee e-mail? Just a thought. I’m hoping it is someone inside the SPFL who knows what is happening here, but also reveals a trail of skullduggery reaching back to 2012. We can all hope. 😀 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
British_Empire 9,648 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 Just now, KingKirk said: I don't see any other outcome other than a Dundee yes vote tomorrow clearly if they still intended to vote no they have just re submitted the vote right away So you keep saying, but (playing devil's advocate here and not wanting to give Dundee any undue credit) it might have been their plan all along to wait until the offices were open on Monday so they can chase it up minute it's sent and confirmed to someone manning a computer it's landed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paisley Blue Loyal 11,178 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, Rfc52 said: BTW there's real talk uefa are about to suggest all leagues null and void That might well explain why Dundee are expected to vote tomorrow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HG5 11,113 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 1 minute ago, BearInTheToon said: Dundee will probably ending up abstaining, blaming undue external pressures. Thus meaning the resolution passes. BUT, given the circumstances, an investigation (and if needs be, another vote) is necessary. I think abstention counts as NOT voting FOR it, from one of the docs posted earlier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,647 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Rfc52 said: Fifa are suggesting this is going to be what happens apparently Not in time to stop the taigs getting the title unless they can over right that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Hedgehog 10,673 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 End the season. Positions stand. Monies given out based on positions. European placings stand as someone has to play in Europe. No relegation as you cannot punish teams unfairly. No title given out because it wasn’t won. Can someone tell me why those can’t happen and not “because” or any of that shite. A genuine reason why a title just has to go to someone that didn’t win. Or a genuine reason a team has to go down without being relegated. Teams have finished bottom before and not gone down Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudrup1984 25,100 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,842 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, Rfc52 said: BTW there's real talk uefa are about to suggest all leagues null and void ano, that's what makes this whole thing embarrassing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amato 3,016 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, Rfc52 said: BTW there's real talk uefa are about to suggest all leagues null and void Where you seeing this? I saw the chat from the FIFA guy saying he thinks UEFA have changed their minds, but that was regarding completing the season. Is it definitely null and void they want rather than league positions final "as it stands"? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blumhoilann 6,712 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, BearInTheToon said: Dundee will probably ending up abstaining, blaming undue external pressures. Thus meaning the resolution passes. BUT, given the circumstances, an investigation (and if needs be, another vote) is necessary. Abstentions are to be considered a NO vote,their rules 😉 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueThunder 8,454 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, BearInTheToon said: Dundee will probably ending up abstaining, blaming undue external pressures. Thus meaning the resolution passes. BUT, given the circumstances, an investigation (and if needs be, another vote) is necessary. It doesn’t - a non vote is considered no. But we’d probably have to wait until the 28 days passed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 23 minutes ago, esquire8 said: Haha possibly. Though remember what I say isn't fucking gospel 😂 Im not Park or Graham. Plans change with this many variables. No no no, you can’t back out now. We’ve had enough of that already. 😂😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,647 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 1 minute ago, British_Empire said: So you keep saying, but (playing devil's advocate here and not wanting to give Dundee any undue credit) it might have been their plan all along to wait until the offices were open on Monday so they can chase it up minute it's sent and confirmed to someone manning a computer it's landed. The spfl confirmed today they got dundee's original vote all be it later on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Dave Hedgehog said: End the season. Positions stand. Monies given out based on positions. European placings stand as someone has to play in Europe. No relegation as you cannot punish teams unfairly. No title given out because it wasn’t won. Can someone tell me why those can’t happen and not “because” or any of that shite. A genuine reason why a title just has to go to someone that didn’t win. Or a genuine reason a team has to go down without being relegated. Teams have finished bottom before and not gone down Because the Scum don’t get another tainted title in that scenario and after the talking about this and that. That is all this is about and nothing else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigdave30 8,705 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 7 minutes ago, Rfc52 said: BTW there's real talk uefa are about to suggest all leagues null and void Any links? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gascoigne8 3,378 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 As far as i can see the SPFL needs disbanded (serious point.) Its only due to individual member clubs being open and transparent and the organising commitee want it behind closed doors. Thats no good for anyone in the game. If clubs decide to vote a certain way thats fine but to try and censor things shows the board are duplicitious and cannot be trusted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeIsBlue 66,606 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, Rfc52 said: BTW there's real talk uefa are about to suggest all leagues null and void And who has a place in UEFA that could've known about this beforehand? It's as if it was all some kind of plan...🤔 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 108,937 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Amato said: Where you seeing this? I saw the chat from the FIFA guy saying he thinks UEFA have changed their minds, but that was regarding completing the season. Is it definitely null and void they want rather than league positions final "as it stands"? I read an article with the fifa guy and looked like he was saying uefa are now looking at the seasons being unable to be completed and that would be that. They may I spose leave it up to each association Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 108,937 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 Just now, Bigdave30 said: Any links? Was on FF mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, KingKirk said: The spfl confirmed today they got dundee's original vote all be it later on That in itself should mean a complete resignation of the SPFL board. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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