fuckthespl 2,518 Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 It seems my memory is not very good just now J-Maestro, HG5, My Fathers Scarf and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigdave30 8,771 Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 6 minutes ago, Don81 said: He's taken time to settle but has looked the part over the last few games, he'll kick on next year if we can keep him. I think he’s a rabbit in the headlights, looks a full bore shitebag. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GersInCanada 7,775 Posted May 20, 2022 Author Share Posted May 20, 2022 6 minutes ago, Bigdave30 said: I think he’s a rabbit in the headlights, looks a full bore shitebag. A bit harsh but it kind of makes my point which is that he is keeping an academy player out of the starting XI. HG5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
five stars 1,741 Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 I'm not a huge fan of loans either but they can be useful depending on how they are used. Ramsay was a big gamble, it didn't work, I don't know how much it cost us but the money could of been better spent. Those responsible for it have hopefully learned a lesson. gmcf and HG5 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart1994 4,433 Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 Loans are useful for us, especially in the league we’re in where we can’t spend massively. They can really help. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigdave30 8,771 Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, GersInCanada said: A bit harsh but it kind of makes my point which is that he is keeping an academy player out of the starting XI. I would 100% play one of our own before attempting to develop him. HG5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creampuff 22,628 Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 19 minutes ago, fuckthespl said: How far back do we have to go to come across a Rangers loan signing that actually benefited us? Steven Davis in 2008? Hagi, Defoe, Kent, Murphy, Vuckic, Bartley, Diouf, Weiss… Even the likes of Coulibaly scored some important goals. 2008 isn’t even the last time Steven Davis was a successful loan signing for Rangers. HG5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers_no1 33,223 Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 34 minutes ago, GersInCanada said: If they want to make Jota and Carter-Vickers proper signings then then they are looking at the thick end of 20M to just stand still. Not a sustainable model. Pretty sure it's £12m to get them both, which is pretty good value in today's market. HG5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6superbarry6 14,277 Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 1 hour ago, GersInCanada said: The sale of Patterson and the Europa League run must have put a heathier pespective to the financials. I am calling for no more loan players. Buy those we can afford and for the rest promote from the academy. For me that's the way forward. With the likes of Hagi, Morelos, Helander and Katic due back next season we start from a strong position. I get that loanees are seen as the cheep option but I want no more of them. Depends who the loan player is Jota and Carter Vickers have been great business for them unfortunately. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 75,298 Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 Nothing wrong with loan market the issue in January was that we panicked into signing Ramsey and Diallo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 54,830 Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 I have no issue with loans whatsoever. We are a club who are always going to have to box with one hand tied behind our backs in comparison to other big clubs in Europe so we have to explore every possible avenue to improve our team and squad. We need to be more selective about who we take on loan but if we have an opportunity to take a talented player on loan who’s going to make a telling difference to us over the course of a season then we would be crazy not to look at it. middli, Laudrup1984 and Hadron Collider 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers_no1 33,223 Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 30 minutes ago, GersInCanada said: I think that 40M+ is way over the top. They will have to win a game or two to even get 30M. The scum are guaranteed at least £24m without getting a single point, that figure will go to £27m if we fail in the qualifiers. That's also without taking into account ticket sales. They will get over £30m even if they lose 5-0 in all six matches taking everything into consideration. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
middli 1,581 Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 With the right loan we have the chance to get a player that we wouldn't be able to sign outright (due to transfer fee, wages etc). Nothing wrong with a quality loan if it's good for all parties. Totally agree that we should not be looking to loans to supplement the squad and should be giving our academy players those chances. I think Ramsey and Diallo were signed with the expectation (or maybe just hope) that they would impact on the starting XI more than they have. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
left winger 14,838 Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 No loans without an option to buy. End of. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueKnight87 17,489 Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 Loans are OK if your bringing in players that actually go into the first team. Finances always going to dictate we look in this market. Ideally you get players with option to buy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Traive 23,315 Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.E.C. 19,129 Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, Colin Traive said: Bar that goal Ojo was terrible for us. Hilly86 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McEwan's Lager 31,075 Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 2 hours ago, GersInCanada said: The sale of Patterson and the Europa League run must have put a heathier pespective to the financials. I am calling for no more loan players. Buy those we can afford and for the rest promote from the academy. For me that's the way forward. With the likes of Hagi, Morelos, Helander and Katic due back next season we start from a strong position. I get that loanees are seen as the cheep option but I want no more of them. Benfica, Sporting and Ajax all loan players and they three probably have the best academies in the world and strongly promote youth. It's not an either or. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross-Gazza genius 1,935 Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 1 hour ago, fuckthespl said: How far back do we have to go to come across a Rangers loan signing that actually benefited us? Steven Davis in 2008? Ryan Kent?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze 14,768 Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Don81 said: He's taken time to settle but has looked the part over the last few games, he'll kick on next year if we can keep him. No he hasn’t and I hope we don’t keep him Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 1 hour ago, fuckthespl said: How far back do we have to go to come across a Rangers loan signing that actually benefited us? Steven Davis in 2008? Steven Davis in 2018/19? Jermain Defoe the same window? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 2 hours ago, GersInCanada said: The sale of Patterson and the Europa League run must have put a heathier pespective to the financials. I am calling for no more loan players. Buy those we can afford and for the rest promote from the academy. For me that's the way forward. With the likes of Hagi, Morelos, Helander and Katic due back next season we start from a strong position. I get that loanees are seen as the cheep option but I want no more of them. If you think football and developing young players is as simple as it's made out in games like FM, yeah. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 1 hour ago, left winger said: No loans without an option to buy. End of. What's different to signing a player on a one-year/18-month deal? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 54,830 Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 1 hour ago, left winger said: No loans without an option to buy. End of. Why not? Putting a blanket approach of “no” to any player who might come here on loan is just a very narrow minded way of looking at things. AGM_72 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilly86 714 Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 29 minutes ago, G.E.C. said: Bar that goal Ojo was terrible for us. Shivers at the memories...an indictment of how far pace can hide so many basic failings. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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