Blue Viking 702 Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 All these injuries and paying all these wages will get us into trouble again. We need to reduce this squad and get rid of the shite and the dead men walking !!!!! Bristoe1872, MacBoyd, STRUTH82 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowley Birkin 9,295 Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 7 minutes ago, Roy Hobbs said: Can you give any examples where your fantasy clauses exist? fantasy?!?! any club that actually gives the scenario i gave deserves all the money haemorrhaging it gets, even you admit that insurance pays for part of the wages didnt we ourselves get rid of a player for next to nothing after he tried to engineer his own move behind our backs? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadron Collider 31,333 Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Bristoe1872 said: A penal colony if I had my way. Where most thieves used to be sent. 🤣🤣 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 66,215 Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 29 minutes ago, Rowley Birkin said: do you honestly think a club, any club will say here's 40k a week for 4 yrs and no matter what you do we will continue to pay that for those 4 yrs even if you never even get to play a game for us at all? There will be clauses for things like breach of contract, not for injuries. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moody Blue 9,525 Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 I feel a bit sorry for him if a troublesome injury just can’t get resolved, I’m sure he’d rather be playing and contributing than going through this. However, from a club’s perspective, we aren’t get any sort of value from the wages we’re going out so time to get him fit for end of season then get rid (if at all possible). I doubt he’ll have a 40games a season again. It’s exactly this type of player we need to rid the squad of, albeit he has more goals in him than any other of the playing staff.  Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowley Birkin 9,295 Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 14 minutes ago, The Specky Liar said: There will be clauses for things like breach of contract, not for injuries. i understand what you're saying and would initially agree but a club will cover it's losses and will put in a player must be eligible to play for x amount a season unless y (certain injuries etc ) happens or have an agreement that some threshold must be met or the club can trigger a clause that lets him go for a certain amount (certainly not the full amount of his contract as what's being argued on here) im not wanting to get bogged down as to what hypothetical clauses there are but my argument is there is no way a club will pay 100% of a players contract like what kingkirk and others are saying  Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 43,632 Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 You can tell Roofe fucking loves zone7ai. "Computer says no" crazy bob swollenbaws 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 54,449 Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 3 hours ago, Bristoe1872 said: Supporters like you happily going along with players taking thousands of pounds a week from our club and spending more time in hair transplant centres than on the pitch is the real nightmare here. I’m not happy about anything, it’s frustrating as fuck, how injury prone Roofe is, but I don’t think the guy deserves dogs abuse for stuff he does in his private life, or to be called a charlatan, because his body is breaking down on him either. ForeverAndEver, 16BlueSherbert90, SkylineBlue and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristoe1872 2,653 Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 4 hours ago, BlueSuedeSambas said: but I don’t think the guy deserves dogs abuse for stuff he does in his private life, or to be called a charlatan, because his body is breaking down on him either. All very decent and honourable. But no use to us whatsoever. Get rid earliest opportunity. Look how obese Ange shows no compunction about moving players on who are obviously not going to cut the mustard. falkirkNS 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 66,215 Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 1 minute ago, Bristoe1872 said: All very decent and honourable. But no use to us whatsoever. Get rid earliest opportunity. Look how obese Ange shows no compunction about moving players on who are obviously not going to cut the mustard. You keep saying this but completely ignoring the fact you can't just 'get rid' of someone under contract without it costing you money. 16BlueSherbert90 and SeparateEntityMyArse 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 54,288 Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 6 minutes ago, Bristoe1872 said: All very decent and honourable. But no use to us whatsoever. Get rid earliest opportunity. Look how obese Ange shows no compunction about moving players on who are obviously not going to cut the mustard. Which injured players has he moved on? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NixonRFC 1,449 Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 8 hours ago, Bristoe1872 said: Supporters like you happily going along with players taking thousands of pounds a week from our club and spending more time in hair transplant centres than on the pitch is the real nightmare here. Mate you've lost the plot here big time, no-one, absolutely nobody would rather have a high earner sitting in the treatment room but you can't just get rid of them, it's not that simple and you can't just pay them off, not unlesd you're willing to pay up the remainder of their entire contract.  Put yourself in Roofe's boots (or bandages), you've been injured at work, your body is struggling to keep up the demands of it, you've got a contract for another 15 months, do you accept half your pay in a lump some to walk away knowing that with your injury record you won't get close to this kind of contract again or do you put your family first, sit tight in the knowledge you've got a bit of breathing space to possibly get yourself healthy again?  One of the most overused words on Rangers forums is Loyal, you only seem willingness to show loyalty if it suits you, Roofe isn't the problem, he's a player who should never have been signed, the only reason we got him is down to his track record with injuries, we signed him to give us extra firepower to stop 10IAR and he contributed, it was a gamble i wouldn't have took but we took it and it was short term gain for long-term pain, it is what it is but you can't just discard people when it suits. bluenoz, The Specky Forum Organiser, SeparateEntityMyArse and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristoe1872 2,653 Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 13 hours ago, NixonRFC said: but you can't just discard people when it suits. Yes mate. You can. We are a football club not a crocks charity. Fat Ange isn't slow in shipping out players who obviously aren't going to make it. And he's right. Thanks for helping to stop 9.75 in a row and thanks for a wonder goal in Europe. We wish you well on the treatment table at Accrington Stanley. Very sorry but we are Rangers FC at one time the most successful club in Scotland. We need players who'll contribute. Bye. The Godfather, sassaaaa and Hadron Collider 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyleBJK 890 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Out for the season Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 43,632 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Â What a farce. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ger4life_1872 29,818 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 berkshirebear 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
falkirkNS 6,298 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Just now, esquire8 said: Â What a farce. Release along with helander, whos out contract anyway. Cannot keep him, repeat we cannot afford to have someone on 30k a week and one of our 3 up top. Souttar has till the end of the season to show fitness or id also loan back to hearts aslong as they pay % of his wage. Its a hit but slightly better than paying 100% salary for crocks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 35,187 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 5 minutes ago, falkirkNS said: Release along with helander, whos out contract anyway. Cannot keep him, repeat we cannot afford to have someone on 30k a week and one of our 3 up top. Souttar has till the end of the season to show fitness or id also loan back to hearts aslong as they pay % of his wage. Its a hit but slightly better than paying 100% salary for crocks. You can’t just release him. He has a contract. And paying him off would likely cost more than his wages with our insurance. Correct in saying we can’t keep carrying £100k per week plus on guys who’re barely available. SeparateEntityMyArse and GWR1979 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangersross 6,575 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Beyond a joke. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDIGNITY 33,714 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 We’ll no see him again along wae a few others. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Somemightsay7 2,556 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 At this point we should just get him to have a career change and be a groundsman until the end of his contract. At least we would get some value out of him. MacBoyd 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 54,288 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 21 minutes ago, falkirkNS said: Release along with helander, whos out contract anyway. Cannot keep him, repeat we cannot afford to have someone on 30k a week and one of our 3 up top. Souttar has till the end of the season to show fitness or id also loan back to hearts aslong as they pay % of his wage. Its a hit but slightly better than paying 100% salary for crocks. We can't just release contracted players. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 43,632 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: We can't just release contracted players. I mean you could but probably end up costing the same amount if not more of what the contract is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KBOO72 4,465 Posted March 10, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 10, 2023 Falls down and hurts his shoulder. Ends up getting a hip operation and out for the season. Our medical situation summed up perfectly. berkshirebear, BookWorm, VladimirWeiss69 and 5 others 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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