J-Maestro 11,482 Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, KeyserSoze said: The “clear out” reality is Mcgregor and Davis retiire Morelos and Kent go for free Helander Jack and Arfield sign on We buy Tillman Roofe, Barasic moved on (last year of their contract) and we also try and sell Wright and Kamara so eight possibly leaving. I’m also up for a few others to be moved on but that’s not happening. Helander isn’t signing on. plymouthranger, chris182 and OhW 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 54,106 Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 12 hours ago, WilliamMunny said: Cunts saying we need an overhaul, thats just no gonna happen. 4 or 5 quality starters can make all the difference. We've 10 out of contract. 4 more next summer. Kamara wants away too. So that could comfortably be 10-15 out, plus your 4 or 5 (I think Beale is looking at more). That IS an overhaul 🤣 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 54,106 Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 12 minutes ago, KeyserSoze said: The “clear out” reality is Mcgregor and Davis retiire Morelos and Kent go for free Helander Jack and Arfield sign on We buy Tillman Roofe, Barasic moved on (last year of their contract) and we also try and sell Wright and Kamara so eight possibly leaving. I’m also up for a few others to be moved on but that’s not happening. Helander sign on 😳 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Maestro 11,482 Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: Helander sign on 😳 Aye on to disability. Negri's lovechild, chris182, ForeverAndEver and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,622 Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 Decent footballers and if Beale does not win the next two games against them a new manager as that will be five times he hasn't beaten them. Good talker though. sassaaaa 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 34,915 Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 58 minutes ago, KeyserSoze said: The “clear out” reality is Mcgregor and Davis retiire Morelos and Kent go for free Helander Jack and Arfield sign on We buy Tillman Roofe, Barasic moved on (last year of their contract) and we also try and sell Wright and Kamara so eight possibly leaving. I’m also up for a few others to be moved on but that’s not happening. Be mad to give Helander or Arfield new deals. Even Jack is questionable. Malkytfp1 and chris182 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 54,106 Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 37 minutes ago, Smile said: Decent footballers and if Beale does not win the next two games against them a new manager as that will be five times he hasn't beaten them. Good talker though. Fuckibg hell. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Maestro 11,482 Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 7 minutes ago, graeme_4 said: Be mad to give Helander or Arfield new deals. Even Jack is questionable. If we are replacing Davis and Kamara with quality players, I’d be happy enough to give them another year. They wouldn’t be the worst options off the bench. We know what they offer and how much we going to spend on new backups? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,622 Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: Fuckibg hell. No Rangers manager will survive not beating them in Five games in a season. Good manager against the fodder but Postecoglu has him sussed so far. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassaaaa 11,406 Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 15 minutes ago, Smile said: No Rangers manager will survive not beating them in Five games in a season. Good manager against the fodder but Postecoglu has him sussed so far. I never thought a Rangers manager would ever be allowed to stay almost 4 years with only one trophy in the bag , with Beale as his sidekick. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,622 Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 28 minutes ago, graeme_4 said: Be mad to give Helander or Arfield new deals. Even Jack is questionable. None of them are fit enough or able to improve us Arfield done now as well but been a good player at us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,622 Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 1 minute ago, sassaaaa said: I never thought a Rangers manager would ever be allowed to stay almost 4 years with only one trophy in the bag , with Beale as his sidekick. We accept mediocrity now I honestly think we have a core of young supporters who think how we play now is acceptable. We used to be winners now we are happy with manager getting beat and saying we competed well with them, its embarrassing. graeme_4, sassaaaa and MacBoyd 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 109,754 Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Smile said: We accept mediocrity now I honestly think we have a core of young supporters who think how we play now is acceptable. We used to be winners now we are happy with manager getting beat and saying we competed well with them, its embarrassing. You trying to break the now world record? J-Maestro and Johnstone Burgh 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 54,106 Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 42 minutes ago, Smile said: No Rangers manager will survive not beating them in Five games in a season. Good manager against the fodder but Postecoglu has him sussed so far. When you're sacking managers without giving them their own tools, against an established opponent and more expensive squad then nothing will ever change. chris182, gogzy and J-Maestro 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 109,754 Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: When you're sacking managers without given them their own tools, against an established opponent and more expensive squad then nothing will ever change. Don’t even think he’s got him sussed either J-Maestro and SeparateEntityMyArse 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SeparateEntityMyArse 54,106 Posted April 16, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, Smile said: We accept mediocrity now I honestly think we have a core of young supporters who think how we play now is acceptable. We used to be winners now we are happy with manager getting beat and saying we competed well with them, its embarrassing. You don't just become winners by saying you want to be winners, or talking about history and traditions. We're rightly 2nd in the league table and 2nd financially compared to them for a reason. Like wss the case with Gerrard, Beale has to find a way to overcome that against the odds. 1 transfer window and 2 players of his own isn't near enough of an opportunity for him or any manager. You sack Beale and the merry go goes round and round but with poorer quality managers as those with ability won't take a job for 6 months (until they get binned) unless they want a pension tip up. But yeah pay them off too, waste more funds, bring in the next one.. Jamie0202, Number5, Negri's lovechild and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.E.C. 18,991 Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 29 minutes ago, Smile said: No Rangers manager will survive not beating them in Five games in a season. Good manager against the fodder but Postecoglu has him sussed so far. Alex McLeish lost 7 in a row and survived. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassaaaa 11,406 Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 1 minute ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: You don't just become winners by saying you want to be winners, or talking about history and traditions. We're rightly 2nd in the league table and 2nd financially compared to them for a reason. Like wss the case with Gerrard, Beale has to find a way to overcome that against the odds. 1 transfer window and 2 players of his own isn't near enough of an opportunity for him or any manager. You sack Beale and the merry go goes round and round but with poorer quality managers as those with ability won't take a job for 6 months (until they get binned) unless they want a pension tip up. But yeah pay them off too, waste more funds, bring in the next one.. Problem there is Beale was there the whole time the rat was and he probably seen and trained most of the same players more than he ever done , and we had one single trophy to show for it. Beale has the same flaws and it shows every week , I said at the time it was madness to give him the job and I am more convinced now than I ever was. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Maestro 11,482 Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 5 minutes ago, sassaaaa said: Problem there is Beale was there the whole time the rat was and he probably seen and trained most of the same players more than he ever done , and we had one single trophy to show for it. Beale has the same flaws and it shows every week , I said at the time it was madness to give him the job and I am more convinced now than I ever was. It shows every week by winning? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 54,106 Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 Just now, sassaaaa said: Problem there is Beale was there the whole time the rat was and he probably seen and trained most of the same players more than he ever done , and we had one single trophy to show for it. Beale has the same flaws and it shows every week , I said at the time it was madness to give him the job and I am more convinced now than I ever was. Beale is unbeaten outwith the scum ffs. He's made mistakes yes but he's also only had 2 signings of his own, he'd a different relationship with the squad when here previously. Talk of sacking a manager with his win record after only 1 transfer window and without even a preseason is childish You've made up your mind on Beale which is fine that's your right. But tell me the secret for how we turn it around against the odds with whoever this miracle replacement is who mightnt get time to bring in his own players ? Is it a head coach who takes whatever squad he's provided with or a manager who gets no time? Somemightsay7, J-Maestro and gogzy 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris182 6,343 Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 Beale will get at least next season. For me the signs are good, this Summer is obviously key though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacBoyd 5,580 Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 Beale is in a horrible place if we don't win the Scottish cup. People could reasonably say gio would of won a cup. He must beat celtic this season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somemightsay7 2,477 Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 1 hour ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: We've 10 out of contract. 4 more next summer. Kamara wants away too. So that could comfortably be 10-15 out, plus your 4 or 5 (I think Beale is looking at more). That IS an overhaul 🤣 We have 7 out of contract and only 4 of them play regularly for us. 1 or 2 may also be extended. We already have a massively bloated squad so we need to reduce the numbers anyway. At most something like 10 players will leave, but 4-5 of them will be players that have barely played this season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassaaaa 11,406 Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 1 minute ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: Beale is unbeaten outwith the scum ffs. He's made mistakes yes but he's also only had 2 signings of his own, he'd a different relationship with the squad when here previously. Talk of sacking a manager with his win record after only 1 transfer window and without even a preseason is childish You've made up your mind on Beale which is fine that's your right. But tell me the secret for how we turn it around against the odds with whoever this miracle replacement is who mightnt get time to bring in his own players ? Is it a head coach who takes whatever squad he's provided with or a manager who gets no time? We dont have the right people running the club to turn it around , its one clusterfuck after another from top to bottom , the only way you can change things is stop the cash going to the clowns in charge but that affects the club so that wont happen. Beale was not the answer IMO. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 54,106 Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, Somemightsay7 said: We have 7 out of contract and only 4 of them play regularly for us. 1 or 2 may also be extended. We already have a massively bloated squad so we need to reduce the numbers anyway. At most something like 10 players will leave, but 4-5 of them will be players that have barely played this season. Mcgregor, Jack, Kent, Morelos, arfield, Davis, Tillman, Helander, kieran wright. Sands was 10th but he's away. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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